Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)
2010/5/13 Petr Morávek [Xificurk] xific...@gmail.com: By themselves not, but they are within the residential land and this tagging proposal follows the scheme like highway=service + service=whatever. I admit, it's not the best solution, but it is already a proposed scheme. I don't have a better solution... maybe it would be better to add a new leisure value, I'm opened to reasonable suggestions. I have personally no idea what the proper english word could be. leisure=garden garden=residential ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Playground tag proposal - voting
Hi all, We've been slowly mulling over the proposed playground extensions for the last couple of months, and I hope that we've covered all the ground that needs to be covered by now. Could those that care to vote, cast your votes on the page? If you disapprove, please say why and maybe we can continue the RFC stage for a little longer so as to get it right. I'm aware that there are a few people who have had input on this who disapprove of the whole voting concept; I'm not proposing we open that can of worms here but I am keen to formalise this properly. Here's the page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Playground_Equipment Regards, Antony. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:20 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: leisure=garden garden=residential Much better. This clearly means you are tagging a particular *type* of garden. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values
I've contributed a new barrier type (post_and_chain) to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types I have a photo that I've taken of one of these, but I haven't been able to figure out how to get it into the wiki. None of the other barrier photos I've seen in the wiki shows one of these. This type of barrier is really common in the US, in parks and on college campuses. It usually is installed to keep people from taking a short cut across a grassy area and wearing a path. It isn't really closed or dense enough to be considered a fence, but it definitely is a barrier. Also, I really have no idea what this kind of barrier is called, especially in the UK (since the default English terminology for OSM is British), and I'd be happy to change the entry if someone has the proper British name for it. Ed Hillsman Tampa, FL USA___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:05 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The whole proposal seems pretty inconsequential, it's not like you are trying to make a well sued highway tagging scheme redundant. Do we agree there is a basic goal of getting everyone to tag the same way? Perhaps the propose-comment-vote-implemented lifecycle is not right, but just start using these values is too weak. How would you know if anyone else was using some similar scheme but with different tags? Steve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values
2010/5/14 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:05 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The whole proposal seems pretty inconsequential, it's not like you are trying to make a well sued highway tagging scheme redundant. Do we agree there is a basic goal of getting everyone to tag the same way? Perhaps the propose-comment-vote-implemented lifecycle is not right, but just start using these values is too weak. How would you know if anyone else was using some similar scheme but with different tags? tagwatch? OSMdoc? Looking at the planet? Still I think that writing down stuff in the wiki is a good way to get things unified. The problem you are describing is not a big one, the real problem is people describing different stuff with the same tags. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:58 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: right, but just start using these values is too weak. How would you know if anyone else was using some similar scheme but with different tags? tagwatch? OSMdoc? Anyone regularly do this? I'm curious. I don't. Still I think that writing down stuff in the wiki is a good way to get things unified. The problem you are describing is not a big one, the real problem is people describing different stuff with the same tags. Yes. But we keep treating the opposite problem as an easy one which will resolve itself one day. Do we actually have a process for merging tags? I'm a bit concerned that communities develop that each prefer their own tag, and they will resist (actively or passively) any attempt to change their tags... Steve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Draft - new barrier values
On 14 May 2010 13:12, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Do we agree there is a basic goal of getting everyone to tag the same way? Perhaps the propose-comment-vote-implemented lifecycle is not right, but just start using these values is too weak. How would you know if anyone else was using some similar scheme but with different tags? You missed the important point I made, which was the bit about these types of tags being incosequential in the entire scheme of things, documenting them is more important than any vote when it won't have any great effect on anything else. Besides some people already advocate tagging should be based on usage as a defacto standard, rather than a vote which only a fraction of a tiny minority bother to have anything to do with, 15 out of 200,000+ users doesn't really say much, or even 15 out of 10,000+ active users... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging