Re: [Tagging] mapping static museum ships

2011-07-30 Thread Dave F.

HMS Belfast should help:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=51.506278lon=-0.081219zoom=18

Take a scoot South-East for a totally over the top mapped/tagged building.
It was the fault of the government

Dave F.





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Re: [Tagging] Named gates

2011-07-30 Thread Dave F.

On 29/07/2011 15:33, Sander Deryckere wrote:

Well, I just don't know any gates with names,


You not knowing is hardly a reason to not render. Please think of the 
wider picture.


Dave F.

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Re: [Tagging] Named gates

2011-07-30 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/29 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com:
 Well, I just don't know any gates with names, exept city gates like the
 Menin gate in Ypres, but they can't be closed and I should not tag it as
 barrier=gate but rather as a building.


http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=historic%3Dcity_gate#tags   200x
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=man_made%3Dcity_gate#tags  6x
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=barrier%3Dcity_gate#tags   4x

-- I'd add historic=city_gate to city gates.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] mapping static museum ships

2011-07-30 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/30 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com:
 HMS Belfast should help:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=51.506278lon=-0.081219zoom=18

 Take a scoot South-East for a totally over the top mapped/tagged building.
 It was the fault of the government


IMHO
building=ship
tourism=museum
(culture=museum)?

Cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Named gates

2011-07-30 Thread Sander Deryckere
2011/7/30 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com


 You not knowing is hardly a reason to not render. Please think of the wider
 picture.

 Dave F.


I also didn't say it shouldn't be rendered. I said that a ticket should be
created and that the mapnik team should decide if it should be rendered. I
just asked what kind of gate is a real gate (used as barrier, not as
entrance like city gates) and is important enough to have a name.

@Martin: historic=city_gate seems a good tag for city gates indeed, but the
menin gate already has historic=monument, so I'll have to think about it.
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Re: [Tagging] Named gates

2011-07-30 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/30 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com:
 @Martin: historic=city_gate seems a good tag for city gates indeed, but the
 menin gate already has historic=monument, so I'll have to think about it.


you could think about removing historic=monument, it doesn't seem
appropriate for a gate IMHO. See the wiki:

An object, especially large and made of stone, built to remember and
show respect to a person or group of people
Monuments are often built in homage to past or present
political/military leaders or religious figures / deities

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonument

at least I do not know about memorial gates. Maybe you are talking
about an arch?

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Named gates

2011-07-30 Thread Sander Deryckere
This is going very off topic, sorry for hijacking the thread.

But anyway,

it was a city gate, distroyed in WWI and rebuild as a city gate and a
monument for several thousand missing soldiers. After the tyne cot cemetry,
it's the most important WWI monument of flanders. So it is both, monument
and city gate.
Op 30 jul. 2011 14:23 schreef M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
het volgende:
 2011/7/30 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com:
 @Martin: historic=city_gate seems a good tag for city gates indeed, but
the
 menin gate already has historic=monument, so I'll have to think about it.


 you could think about removing historic=monument, it doesn't seem
 appropriate for a gate IMHO. See the wiki:

 An object, especially large and made of stone, built to remember and
 show respect to a person or group of people
 Monuments are often built in homage to past or present
 political/military leaders or religious figures / deities

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmonument

 at least I do not know about memorial gates. Maybe you are talking
 about an arch?

 cheers,
 Martin

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Re: [Tagging] mapping static museum ships

2011-07-30 Thread Pieren
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:46 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer 
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:



 IMHO
 building=ship
 tourism=museum
 (culture=museum)?


A ship, even static, is not a building. That's tagging for the renderer.
Going that way, we will see building=truck, building=tank, etc.
Why not a static_ship=museum ?

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Re: [Tagging] mapping static museum ships

2011-07-30 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/30 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
 A ship, even static, is not a building. That's tagging for the renderer.


it depends which definition of building you are applying. Floating
buildings might be legally considered buildings in some places.
there is already 27 building=ship
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=building%3Dship#tags
and 43 building=boat/boat_house
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=building%3Dboat#tags

 Why not a static_ship=museum ?


IMHO it is too specific for the key, but you can add this without any
problem and see if other mappers like it and use it as well. What is
the systematics?

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] unless someone objects: amenity=truck_rental

2011-07-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:

 i'll add this alongside car_rental and bicycle_rental unless
 someone makes a strong case against it. there are many
 truck_rental sites in the US (common brands are UHaul,
 Penske, and Ryder).
 
 richard

Sounds like a good idea to me.
-- 
John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com
Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to 
think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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