Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: a photo of a stone cross over 5m tall since you cannot walk in it/over it (cfr. monument is large ... as in you can walk inside it, over it.) it is a memorial. a monument is often a building IMHO regards m ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging of historic=monument
2015-05-08 10:15 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: a photo of a stone cross over 5m tall since you cannot walk in it/over it (cfr. monument is large ... as in you can walk inside it, over it.) it is a memorial. a monument is often a building IMHO 5 meters is large ;-) a monument can be a building, but it can also be something else. IMHO it also depends on context, if you are in a monumental setting with everything huge, a 5 meter stone cross might be just a small insignificant part of it, and could eventually be considered a memorial by the mapper, if instead this is an isolated feature I would be more inclined to map it as monument. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging village sign
On 7 May 2015 at 23:11, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: Tips on tagging a village sign please. Village sign: an ornate sign located fairly central to the village - such as on the village green. There are lots of these signs near where I live. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_sign for examples. I've always used man_made=village_sign to tag them -- which seems to have a number of uses according to http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=village+sign#values (although a good proportional of them are probably down to me). The village name shown on the sign should also be recorded, and for that I've used name=*. I know that perhaps doesn't quite fit with the usual use of name=*, as here it's the name being shown, rather than the name of the sign, but I thought it was close enough. But if anyone has any better suggestions there... Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite
pmailkeey . wrote on 2015-05-06 23:13: On 6 May 2015 at 20:40, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: if they're static I'd probably tag them like other huts you can rent for vacation. As in 'alpine_hut' ? No, an alpine_hut is more like a hostel in a remote location, it is managed by staff and you would book just a place to sleep in the hut, not the full building. tom ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
I propose to create the tag shop=wholesale for stores that sell large quantities of merchandise in bulk, such as Costco and Sam's Club. Many such stores require a membership to join. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_club. This tag has 320 uses in taginfo already. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
2015-05-08 18:04 GMT+02:00 Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com: I propose to create the tag shop=wholesale for stores that sell large quantities of merchandise in bulk, such as Costco and Sam's Club. Many such stores require a membership to join. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_club. This tag has 320 uses in taginfo already. Hi, I described (and proposed) the tag in 2011 with a wholesale key to specify the items sold http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wholesale Feel free to edit the page or improve it :-) Regards, Stefano ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 12:04 -0400, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: I propose to create the tag shop=wholesale for stores that sell large quantities of merchandise in bulk, such as Costco and Sam's Club. Many such stores require a membership to join. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_club. This tag has 320 uses in taginfo already. I agree with the general concept, but there needs to be a way to differentiate Costco/Sam's/BJ's from other types of wholesalers. I can't think of anything better besides something like shop=department_store and some additional tag(s) to indicate membership is required to do business there (access=members maybe?). -- Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: I propose to create the tag shop=wholesale for stores that sell large quantities of merchandise in bulk, such as Costco and Sam's Club. Many such stores require a membership to join. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_club. This tag has 320 uses in taginfo already. A wholesale merchant sells to retailers and service businesses, usually not to consumers. Warehouse clubs are a better description of Costco and Sam's club. -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging village sign
Please have a look at: man_made=village_sign + http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:inscription - althio On 8 May 2015 at 11:50, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 May 2015 at 23:11, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: Tips on tagging a village sign please. Village sign: an ornate sign located fairly central to the village - such as on the village green. There are lots of these signs near where I live. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_sign for examples. I've always used man_made=village_sign to tag them -- which seems to have a number of uses according to http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=village+sign#values (although a good proportional of them are probably down to me). The village name shown on the sign should also be recorded, and for that I've used name=*. I know that perhaps doesn't quite fit with the usual use of name=*, as here it's the name being shown, rather than the name of the sign, but I thought it was close enough. But if anyone has any better suggestions there... Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
On 9/05/2015 11:10 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: Note that we also have shop=trade. It would be good to make the difference between both tags clear (of deprecate shop=trade, which I wouldn't oppose). trade is an attribute. Any type of shop (plumbing, electrical, lumber, restaurant supplies) could be trade focused. Such shops do not cater to walk in consumer traffic, and may be hostile to customers who come in without trade knowledge. Wholesale implies a large quantity of goods, they sell in quantity (the quantity may be over some time, say a year). A 'Trade' shop implies specialist goods and specialist knowledge, not things that are present in supermarkets. An Electronics trade shop will know what a 12 puff capacitor is and have several types available, high Q please. A Plumbers trade shop will have several types of stop cocks available... etc. A trade shop may accept walk in customers .. but give them retail prices where as a trade person would get trade price. Some trades are protected by law and a trade shop may refuse sales based on that .. usually safety related. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging village sign
Cheers, I'll have a think on this one :) -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
On May 9, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Wholesale implies a large quantity of goods, they sell in quantity (the quantity may be over some time, say a year). Then wholesale is an subtag on the shop, since it doesn't describe what they are selling, right? There are wholesale trade shops, wholesale food shops, wholesale lumber shops, etc... Is there some tag for membership, or is that assumed knowledge if you live in the region? (Most people in Japan know costco is membership, for example). Thinking about it reminds me I have no idea how to tag them, along with the sub-businesses inside (food court, pharmacy, tire shop, etc). I just put shop nodes in the building, but maybe that's not the best way to do it. Javbw. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
On 9/05/2015 1:35 PM, John Willis wrote: On May 9, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Wholesale implies a large quantity of goods, they sell in quantity (the quantity may be over some time, say a year). Then wholesale is an subtag on the shop, since it doesn't describe what they are selling, right? Hummm ... I'd not want a wholesaler identified as a shop ... let me put it this way? If a gasoline wholesaler were identified as a fuel station and you drove your car in there .. they'd sell you gasoline ... say 250 gallons of it minimum. :-D There are wholesale trade shops, wholesale food shops, wholesale lumber shops, etc... Is there some tag for membership, or is that assumed knowledge if you live in the region? (Most people in Japan know costco is membership, for example). access = membership ? Thinking about it reminds me I have no idea how to tag them, along with the sub-businesses inside (food court, pharmacy, tire shop, etc). I just put shop nodes in the building, but maybe that's not the best way to do it. I've not looked at it hard. I have tagged nodes and buildings (closed way) as shops .. they do appear on the rendered maps. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
On May 9, 2015, at 4:00 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: I propose to create the tag shop=wholesale for stores that sell large quantities of merchandise in bulk, such as Costco and Sam's Club. Many such stores require a membership to join. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_club. This tag has 320 uses in taginfo already. A wholesale merchant sells to retailers and service businesses, usually not to consumers. Warehouse clubs are a better description of Costco and Sam's club. +1 price club started out as restaurant and convince store supply. It slowly grew into a consumer outlet. But there are many stores open to he public that cater to professionals in that business - meaning their *stock* is tailored to the professional vs the consumer - a consumer doesn't have the need nor the knowledge to shop at a professional shop, though they can enter and buy if they want. These stores are valuable but uncommon, and are usually really focused on a specific industry. I used to got to an industrial supply store - high end tools, high end consumables, and high-end hardware (bolts, fasteners, etc) that are not house building bolts and screws like you'd find at Home Depot. http://goo.gl/maps/isNqa That shop is not meant for a consumer, but consumers can shop there. Costco and SAMs club are totally meant for consumers - they just require a membership. Javbw. -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: Note that we also have shop=trade. It would be good to make the difference between both tags clear (of deprecate shop=trade, which I wouldn't oppose). trade is an attribute. Any type of shop (plumbing, electrical, lumber, restaurant supplies) could be trade focused. Such shops do not cater to walk in consumer traffic, and may be hostile to customers who come in without trade knowledge. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale
Note that we also have shop=trade. It would be good to make the difference between both tags clear (of deprecate shop=trade, which I wouldn't oppose). -- Matthijs On 8 May 2015 at 17:04, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: I propose to create the tag shop=wholesale for stores that sell large quantities of merchandise in bulk, such as Costco and Sam's Club. Many such stores require a membership to join. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_club. This tag has 320 uses in taginfo already. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging