Re: [Tagging] landcover=trees definition
2015-08-17 18:50 GMT+02:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at: Or landuse=flowerbed and possibly species=Mesembryanthemum crystallinum. There is already leisure=garden. It (or [leisure=garden, gerden=flowerbed] or maybe leisure=flowerbed) would be far better than yet another too detailed landuse value. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] landcover=trees definition
sent from a phone Am 18.08.2015 um 10:51 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: There is already leisure=garden. It (or [leisure=garden, gerden=flowerbed] or maybe leisure=flowerbed) would be far better than yet another too detailed landuse value. there are also garden:type and garden:style, but they are for gardens, a flowerbed may also occur in different context (e.g. in the public space along streets or on squares). I would not recommend garden=flowerbed as a general tag for flowerbeds for this reason. Maybe what was once suggested as landuse=grass (green on traffic separations, traffic islands etc.) could become landuse=street_decoration and could be subtagged as flowerbed then. On the other hand this would still interfere with landuse=highway/road What about amenity=flowerbed? cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] landcover=trees definition
On Aug 18, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: landuse=street_decoration What if its grass along a (maintained) river embankment, but roped off so no one can walk on it, as it is not a park? What about the grass surrounding an airport (Narita's is well trimmed)? What about the landscaping lawns that cover the front of large industrial facilities? Ah! Perhaps landscaping is a good tag. It covers all your urban examples, and mine as well. But it implies man-chosen and maintained plants, so landscaping=trees would only be trees that were planted there =\ But it would appropriate for most decorative or landcoverish items around a city or building that normally wouldn't fall under the natural tag (wood,meadow,scrub) nor barrier=hedge, which is what i use for the hedges that are on so many islands and along so many walkways in Japan. Javbw ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] There are no 'non managed' woods. Was: landcover=trees definition
Also, if a managed woodland ceases to be actively managed, so that it gradually reverts back to a wild state, does it eventually get reclassified? There are many places around the world where a former managed woodland, or cleared farm, has reverted back to forest. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On August 15, 2015 6:18:49 AM Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 02/08/2015 23:55, Daniel Koć wrote: I have just discovered that while landcover=trees has no Wiki page, it's quite established tag (I wouldn't say popular here, because it's just about 1% of forest/wood uses) and we could officially define as a generic tag for trees areas, when it's not clear for the mapper if it's natural or not (forest vs wood). Do you agree with this idea? A system that makes the current confusing set up of natural=wood, landuse=forest redundant then all for it. Apart from the fact very few trees areas aren't managed in some form or another, any such distinction should be sub tagged, not by using separate, confusing key tags. Cheers Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Describe explicitly that values of highway tag do not imply anything about road quality (except highway=motorway and highway=motorway_link)
I am planning on adding this information to wiki in near future. Note that it afffects also highway=path - in that case some/many people are convinced that there is some kind of difference of implied quality between highway=path and highway=footway. highway=path wiki page already contains information that highway=path may have any type of surface 2015-08-12 10:56 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: What is below is supposed to document existing consensus rather than introduce new rule. I am aware that there is significant majority convinced that some road types universally guarantee or imply certain values (like widespread usage of highway=track to mark all unpaved roads and only unpaved roads, popular in some regions). I am also aware that in some regions dual carriageways are usually at least highway=tertiary, paved roads are at least highway=unclassified, highway=primary has at least 2 lanes in each direction or paved roads passable for the entire year are highway=trunk are good approximations - but it does not make it universally true or necessary requirement to use these tags. proposed description to be added on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway - maybe also on pages about individual road types. Only highway=motorway/motorway_link implies anything about quality. Other road types, from highway=trunk through highway=tertiary to highway=residential=residential/service or highway=path/footway/cycleway/track do not imply anything about road quality. In area with poor infrastructure road forming main road network, of the highest importance in region should be tagged highway=trunk - no matter whatever is is high-quality asphalt road or unsurfaced tract unusable after major rains. In absence of surface, tracktype and other tags describing quality of road one may try to extrapolate this information from value of highway tag. Note that this needs tuning for every region. Typical highway=primary may be drastically different in various places across the planet. It is highly recommended to add and use tags describing road quality like surface. In one region it may be obvious that all highway=tertiary are paved and highway=track unpaved but no assumption like that will work worldwide. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Amenities for kids parties
Hi, Downtown cities in Brazil often provide places taht can be rent to organize parties for kids with different games. Here are a few sites providing pictures to give you an idea: http://www.playland.com.br/atracoes/ or http://www.clubedacrianca.com.br/?a=Diversao Would leisure=kids_parties fit? Sincerely, Severin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Move tag to a subtag (landuse=port)
Hi all, following discussion in https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1731 I would like to move the tagging scheme for landuse=port[0], proposed by me last year, under the industrial proposal [1]. For the data part, I would replace landuse=port with landuse=industrial+industrial=port where applicable (checking each occurrence). I already did this in my city http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/b0N For the wiki page I would move the name from Tag:landuse%3Dport to Tag:industrial%3Dport (I see that there are 3 translations, do they move as well?) What's your opinion? Regards, Stefano [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dport [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/industrial ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Husainiya
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Re: [Tagging] Move tag to a subtag (landuse=port)
On 18/08/2015 15:45, Stefano wrote: What's your opinion? It is important to distinguish between a port and a harbour, dock or terminal. These are often confused, and I see this confusion in reference [0]. A port is an administrative entity, whereas harbours/docks/terminals are physical entities. A port may contain any number of harbours/docks/terminals (=0) as well as other buildings or areas of land not contained with the boundaries the harbours/docks/terminals. Any tagging scheme for these entities should take into account these important differences. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Husainiya
Tuesday 18 August 2015 17:24:31, Ruben Maes: Tuesday 18 August 2015 07:43:02, AbulAziz M.: Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/husainiya Definition: A congregational place for Muslims (esp. Shia Muslims) where I sermon is given and the tragedy of Karbala is commemorated This should be expressed with subtags of place of worship: amenity=place_of_worship religion=muslim denomination=shia/... muharram=yes/no should be expressed with opening_hours instead, though it currently only supports the Gregorian calendar as far as I know. weekly should be expressed with service_times. throughout_the_year: I am not sure what you mean by that. -- The field from of an email is about as reliable as the address written on the back of an envelope. Use OpenPGP to verify that this message is sent by me. You can find my public key in the public directories, like pool.sks-keyservers.net. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Husainiya
Tuesday 18 August 2015 07:43:02, AbulAziz M.: Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/husainiya Definition: A congregational place for Muslims (esp. Shia Muslims) where I sermon is given and the tragedy of Karbala is commemorated FYI, I've modified the Proposal Process on the wiki. It now also says to include a link to the proposal page. -- The field from of an email is about as reliable as the address written on the back of an envelope. Use OpenPGP to verify that this message is sent by me. You can find my public key in the public directories, like pool.sks-keyservers.net. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
