Re: [Tagging] Tagging change_lanes

2017-05-05 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Tijmen Stam  wrote:
> The use of this tag is VERY low as of yet (only 67) according to taginfo,
> but it's extremely useful.

Do you mean the use of change:lanes ? Or of some particular value ?
As far as I can see the tag is used over 60.000 times when you sum up
change:lanes, change:lanes:forward and change:lanes:backward (see
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/change:lanes:backward/change:lanes:forward/change:lanes)

m.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Language information for name

2017-05-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-05-05 13:51, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> Feature Proposal - RFC - Language information for name
>
> URL: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name
>
> Definition: Describes the language in which the value name=* is (using
> the same code as Multilingual names).
>
> Feel free to ask questions if things are unclear!
You say "This tag is not always necessary" which, as often in OSM, is
not really precise.
That means that if there is no name=* tag, the region's default
languages applies.
Alas, OSM seems to hate tagging default values inside its database.
Rather they are scattered in many other places and if one changes, all
applications have to be updated instead of a transparent OSM map update.
See the nice  Proposed features/Defaults
  that
they removed (even though it is used).
So, your proposal puts the cart before the horses and default languages
should be defined first.
If you want to do that, call on my advice on how to do it.
Here in Belgium, we have defined the linguistic regions relations.
But, owing to that OSM shortcoming, they are of course not used as defaults.

Cheers

André.


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[Tagging] Tagging change_lanes

2017-05-05 Thread Tijmen Stam

Hello,

I'm hijacking this thread to ask about the change_lanes tag.
There seem to be three ways of mapping the change_lanes in circulation, 
that can't all be correct.


1) I've always been using the JOSM Lanes and Road Attributes mappaint 
style.
From it's help page 
, 
click change: -> then to proposal 

There it lists as possible values: 
yes|no|not_right|not_left|only_right|only_left

Where not_left is equivalent to only_right

2) on the lane_features wiki page: 


reccommended tags change:lanes=yes|to_left|no|to_right

3) in Kevin Kenny's email I see right_only. I don't know where he got 
this from


On 07-04-17 20:13, Kevin Kenny wrote:

> lanes=4
> lanes:forward=2
> lanes:backward=2
> turn:lanes=right||through|through;left|right
> change:lanes=yes|right_only|no|no


The use of this tag is VERY low as of yet (only 67) according to 
taginfo, but it's extremely useful. So I suppose the best way is to 
change all information to only one of those 3 options.
My proposal is to use 1), for the simple reason that the plugin already 
gives warnings if you use style 2 so it has tooling around it.
So someone has to change the 
 
page to the right options.


With regards,
Tijmen / IIVQ

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Language information for name

2017-05-05 Thread Lukas Sommer
Feature Proposal - RFC - Language information for name

URL: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name

Definition: Describes the language in which the value name=* is (using
the same code as Multilingual names).

Feel free to ask questions if things are unclear!

Best regards

-- 
Lukas Sommer

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