Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation
sent from a phone > Il giorno 15 feb 2020, alle ore 18:46, Hauke Stieler > ha scritto: > > 2.) > According to [0] the convention for separation word in a key is the > underscore. So I would change the key to "in_place_donations". right, the underscore replaces spaces between words in formalized tag keys and values. If the term is “in kind” then it becomes “in_kind” as a tag. When the term is “in-kind” then it remains like this. Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards
I have tagged around 1k bollards without "removable" or "raising", because they looked reasonably difficult to remove, even thought most likely nearly all of them are in one way or the other removable and not really fixed. My interpretation of the the absence of these tags has been that the object in question is not supposed to be removed by the normal road (or in my case cycle-parth) user. If you want to tag this fact, be aware that there are a large number of bollards already on the map which all would need remapping (and I certainly would not like to revisiting "my" bollards) Volker On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 21:33, ael wrote: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 08:15:32PM +, John Sturdy wrote: > > I think that by default bollards are not removable, and that if a bollard > > is not tagged as removable, it is reasonable to assume it's not > removable. > > +1 > > ael > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 08:15:32PM +, John Sturdy wrote: > I think that by default bollards are not removable, and that if a bollard > is not tagged as removable, it is reasonable to assume it's not removable. +1 ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards
I think that's a bad assumption to make. Could just be that nobody bothered to tag it On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 21:17 John Sturdy wrote: > I think that by default bollards are not removable, and that if a bollard > is not tagged as removable, it is reasonable to assume it's not removable. > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM Hauke Stieler > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and "removable" >> [0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed easily. >> I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation. Should >> I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an >> overkill to me. >> >> My suggestion is the value "unremovable": >> A bollard which cannot be removed without destroying it or at least >> cause severe damage to it. A bollard which can only be removed by >> authorized people with some sort of key is still "removable". >> >> I would not use the value "fixed" or "irremovable" for two reasons: The >> "unremovable" value is used more often [1] and would be a good >> counter-value for "removable". >> >> Hauke >> >> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard >> [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards
I don't have real data to check your statement (except the mapped bollards in OSM) but personally I don't know if that's true for all regions. I personally have the feeling that the amount is at least equal and in Hamburg, Germany I have the impression that more bollars are removable then unremovable. On 15.02.20 21:15, John Sturdy wrote: > I think that by default bollards are not removable, and that if a > bollard is not tagged as removable, it is reasonable to assume it's not > removable. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 15:16, John Sturdy wrote: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM Hauke Stieler wrote: >> there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and "removable" >> [0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed easily. >> I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation. Should >> I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an >> overkill to me. > > I think that by default bollards are not removable, and that if a bollard is > not tagged as removable, it is reasonable to assume it's not removable. A problem with this "null tag" interpretation is that with its absence, it's not really possible to tell whether a bollard has been surveyed and confirmed as non-removable, or if it hasn't been surveyed in sufficient detail (e.g. bollard visible on satellite imagery but no one checked on it in person). --Jarek ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards
I think that by default bollards are not removable, and that if a bollard is not tagged as removable, it is reasonable to assume it's not removable. On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM Hauke Stieler wrote: > Hi all, > > there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and "removable" > [0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed easily. > I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation. Should > I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an > overkill to me. > > My suggestion is the value "unremovable": > A bollard which cannot be removed without destroying it or at least > cause severe damage to it. A bollard which can only be removed by > authorized people with some sort of key is still "removable". > > I would not use the value "fixed" or "irremovable" for two reasons: The > "unremovable" value is used more often [1] and would be a good > counter-value for "removable". > > Hauke > > [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard > [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards
Yeah, Also noticed that when mapping bollards. I'd vote on such a proposal yeah Not sure if proposals are needed for changes this small. But I'd love to hear other people's feedback as well yeah On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 19:54, Hauke Stieler wrote: > Hi all, > > there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and "removable" > [0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed easily. > I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation. Should > I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an > overkill to me. > > My suggestion is the value "unremovable": > A bollard which cannot be removed without destroying it or at least > cause severe damage to it. A bollard which can only be removed by > authorized people with some sort of key is still "removable". > > I would not use the value "fixed" or "irremovable" for two reasons: The > "unremovable" value is used more often [1] and would be a good > counter-value for "removable". > > Hauke > > [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard > [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Unremovable bollards
Hi all, there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and "removable" [0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed easily. I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation. Should I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an overkill to me. My suggestion is the value "unremovable": A bollard which cannot be removed without destroying it or at least cause severe damage to it. A bollard which can only be removed by authorized people with some sort of key is still "removable". I would not use the value "fixed" or "irremovable" for two reasons: The "unremovable" value is used more often [1] and would be a good counter-value for "removable". Hauke [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation
Hi, I have some feedback for you: 1.) I'm not a native English spearker and personally never heard of "in-kind donations" before, so maybe a short description/definition might be needed/helpful. 2.) According to [0] the convention for separation word in a key is the underscore. So I would change the key to "in_place_donations". 3.) Maybe give some examples for tagging. Something like: "A shop accepting X in-kind donation for organization Y would be tagged like this: ..." Hauke [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like#Syntactic_conventions_for_new_tags On 15.02.20 17:56, Markus Peloso wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation > > > > For a place that takes in-kind donations. > > > > Hi > > > > I describe a tag for shop and amenity that takes in-kind donations. I'm > interested in your opinions. > > > > Best regards, > > Markus > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation For a place that takes in-kind donations. Hi I describe a tag for shop and amenity that takes in-kind donations. I'm interested in your opinions. Best regards, Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Recycling diapers
Il sab 15 feb 2020, 15:25 ael ha scritto: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 02:52:22PM +0100, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > Nobody else about this key? To be honest I have another example of > > "recycling:" (not recycling) that are the batteries... So it's another > > point to the idea that recycling is a namespace and diapers could be > added > > to the list. > > No, "diapers" is not British English: "nappies" . > No occurrence in taginfo still... But I'm fine with both > > ael > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Recycling diapers
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 02:52:22PM +0100, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > Nobody else about this key? To be honest I have another example of > "recycling:" (not recycling) that are the batteries... So it's another > point to the idea that recycling is a namespace and diapers could be added > to the list. No, "diapers" is not British English: "nappies" . ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Recycling diapers
Nobody else about this key? To be honest I have another example of "recycling:" (not recycling) that are the batteries... So it's another point to the idea that recycling is a namespace and diapers could be added to the list. Thanks Francesco Il mer 5 feb 2020, 13:53 Francesco Ansanelli ha scritto: > > > Il mer 5 feb 2020, 13:30 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> ha scritto: > >> Are diapers actually recycled? >> > > Well... I've read it's theoretically possible to do it. > > >> It sounds like waste collection point accepting this specific type of >> trash. >> > > Sure. If you read recycling as namespace of tag it makes a lot of sense... > >> >> Feb 5, 2020, 13:22 by franci...@gmail.com: >> >> Dear List >> >> >> Can be the tag: >> >> recycling:diapers=yes/no >> >> Be accepted as allowed value and documented on wiki? >> It's already on use according to taginfo. >> >> Many thanks >> Best regards >> Francesco >> >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
