Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

[Markus Peloso]

Hello

As a result of the discussion, I have changed the name from "donation in kind" 
to "donation of goods". "donation of goods" is easier to understand and is more 
specific for a place you can give physical things as donation.

If there are no more comments, I will start voting in a few days.

Best regards
Markus
Von: Martin Koppenhoefer
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Februar 2020 12:00
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 23:50 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg 
mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>>:
My concern is still that it might be hard to translate "donation in
kind" from English into some languages, and that people with limited
English vocabulary might not understand the phrase.

Automated translations by Google from "donation in kind" gets this:

I got the same with deepl.com (for French, German, Spanish, 
Dutch)



German: "Sachspende"


is a precise and accurate term (no wonder, the OP has translated this to 
English).



Dutch: "donatie in natura" literally "donation in nature", from French?

French: "don en nature" - literally "gift in nature/kind" which seem
to be a phrase

So "donation in kind" will work for western European languages (and
Indonesian), though it would be nice if someone can check how it works
in Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, etc.

However, "donation of goods" works as well or better in most of these languages:

"Donation of goods" translates to:
= "sumbangan barang" (Indonesian)
= "donación de bienes" (Spanish)
= "don de biens" (French)
= "donatie van goederen" (Dutch)
= "Spende von Waren" (German)


no, "Spende von Waren" is not an established term, it doesn't sound natural 
(but would probably be understood anyway), the perfect term is "Sachspende". My 
guess is that also for the other languages, particularly Roman languagues with 
their reference to "nature", the established term is that and not the second 
alternative. No idea about Indonesian obviously ;)

Cheers
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Markus Peloso]

Hello

For step 3.
Replace the entire content/source from the «Proposed features/Free Water» with 
this snippet:
«
{{Approved feature link|link=Key:drinking_water:refill|name=Free Water}}
{{Archived proposal|archive_id=1962961}}
»
The archive_id comes from the «View history» page by clicking the last / newest 
entry and coping the value from the oldid parameter in the url.

Best regards,

Markus

Von: European Water Project
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:15
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

Hello,

Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going to 
amend the final voted tag pair to :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I would 
like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.

1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted 
?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water

2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second one 
for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page ?)

3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come 
after completion of 1 + 2.
*  Add a link back to the proposal by using the statuslink parameter of the 
feature template.
*  Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using 
Template:Approved feature 
link.
*  Archive the proposal using Template:Archived 
proposal.

Best regards,

Stuart


On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the tag 
pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

instead of :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;

Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small change 
?  I don't mind.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Again,

In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is worth 
discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and use the 
word network.

This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace 
convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network" 
clearer than "scheme".

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,

The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill water 
bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent passes with 13 
positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to be tagged 
drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is evident so that 
the tag is verifiable.

The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear preference 
for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which is common with 
other tags.

· 
drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
· 
drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;
 
scheme-name2;scheme-name3;

Can someone please guide me on next steps ?

· Create the permanent feature description page:
· A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map 
features 
template 
(depending on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. 
Follow the standard set by the 

Re: [Tagging] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

[Markus Peloso]

Thanks for the idea.
I love it. :D

https://priceless.zottelig.ch/#offers=trip%2Fopenstreetmap

https://priceless.zottelig.ch/#offers=trip%2Fopenstreetmap=50.556607%2C12.6785266

Von: Rory McCann
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Februar 2020 12:00
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org; 
t...@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: [Tagging] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

In OSM, large map boards can be mapped as 
`tourist=information,information=map`. OSM is
pretty good quality, so now some of these maps are based on OSM data.

Is there anyway to record this in OSM?

IMO, you don't need a reason to map something, but one benefit is to help 
people promote OSM. If someone thinks you have a weird hobby with this map 
thing, and you bring them to big map showing our map, then that's pretty cool.

The `map_type` and `map_size` tags are used on these sort of maps. Do yous 
think `map_source=openstreetmap` is a good tag?
The long standing OSM convention of semicolons can be used if there's more than 
one source.
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Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Mar 1, 2020, 20:03 by vic...@tuxayo.net:

>
>
> On 20-02-25 15:33, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
>
>> In this case I would either remove url or change url to other valid
>> wdycf value. And I would probably request blocking such user by DWG.
>>
>
> Were they contacted and did they shown no good faith to change their mapping 
> way?
>
Note that this is 100% theoretical situation.

For less theoretical things - I am currently going through OSM links and 
removing all
fbclid, gclid, campaign_ref, mc_id, utm_source, utm_medium, utm_term, 
utm_content
and utm_campaign parameters.

There is about 1100 object with this tracking parameters, once I feel confident 
with my
script (currently used with manual review of every single edit) I may propose 
running it
in fully automated mode.

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Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

[Victor/tuxayo]

On 20-02-25 15:33, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:

In this case I would either remove url or change url to other valid
wdycf value. And I would probably request blocking such user by DWG.


Were they contacted and did they shown no good faith to change their 
mapping way?


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