[Tagging] .Re: tagging drinking water of unclear official (signed)

2020-09-06 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging

I dont know about the USA, but in British English, "portable" means that it can 
be carried. 
If you can drink it, it is "potable".


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>in the united states we say (portable)

  
>>Sunday, September 6, 2020 5:52 PM -05:00 from Martin Koppenhoefer 
>>>:
>> 
>>
>>
>>sent from a phone
>> 
>>> On 6. Sep 2020, at 21:04, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < 
>>> tagging@openstreetmap.org > wrote:
>>>
>>> That redefines drinking_water:legal=yes which currently is described as 
>>> including
>>> places where status is not explicitly signed but is known to be good 
>>> (examples
>>> may include water fountains setup and maintained by city).
>>
>>why not use
>>drinking_water=yes for these?
>>
>>
>>Cheers Martin
>>
  
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 7. Sep 2020, at 01:16, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> Because I want to use drinking_water=yes and something indicating that there 
> is strong
> reason to believe that water is drinkable


do I understand you correctly that in your interpretation  
drinking_water:legal=yes does NOT give strong reason to believe it is drinkable 
water?


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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging

potable, and non potable, as in water lines separated in Florida.

  
>Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:01 PM -05:00 from Philip Barnes 
>:
> 
>On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 01:57 +0300, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:
>> in the united states we say (portable)
>I suspect the US word is potable, same as GB.
>
>Phil (trigpoint)
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 01:57 +0300, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:
> in the united states we say (portable)

I suspect the US word is potable, same as GB.

Phil (trigpoint)



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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 09:16, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> Sep 7, 2020, 00:52 by dieterdre...@gmail.com
>
> why not use
> drinking_water=yes for these?
>
> Because I want to use drinking_water=yes and something indicating that
> there is strong
> reason to believe that water is drinkable.
>

Sorry, but to me, drinking_water=yes suggests that yes, this water is
drinkable! :-)

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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging



Sep 7, 2020, 00:52 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 6. Sep 2020, at 21:04, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> That redefines drinking_water:legal=yes which currently is described as 
>> including
>> places where status is not explicitly signed but is known to be good 
>> (examples 
>> may include water fountains setup and maintained by city).
>>
>
>
> why not use 
> drinking_water=yes for these?
>
Because I want to use drinking_water=yes and something indicating that there is 
strong
reason to believe that water is drinkable.
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging

in the united states we say (portable)

  
>Sunday, September 6, 2020 5:52 PM -05:00 from Martin Koppenhoefer 
>:
> 
>
>
>sent from a phone
> 
>> On 6. Sep 2020, at 21:04, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < 
>> tagging@openstreetmap.org > wrote:
>>
>> That redefines drinking_water:legal=yes which currently is described as 
>> including
>> places where status is not explicitly signed but is known to be good 
>> (examples
>> may include water fountains setup and maintained by city).
>
>why not use
>drinking_water=yes for these?
>
>
>Cheers Martin
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 6. Sep 2020, at 21:04, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> That redefines drinking_water:legal=yes which currently is described as 
> including
> places where status is not explicitly signed but is known to be good 
> (examples 
> may include water fountains setup and maintained by city).


why not use 
drinking_water=yes for these?


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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] maps/navigation data source

2020-09-06 Thread Jo
House numbers are also exhaustively complete in The Netherlands.


Jo

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 22:46 Niels Elgaard Larsen  wrote:

> Martin Koppenhoefer:
> >
> >
> > sent from a phone
> >
> >> On 5. Sep 2020, at 16:43, ben.ki...@mail.de wrote:
> >>
> >> Which are the world regions OSM data is better in? Which are world
> regions OSM data is equal good?
> >
> >
> > generally urban areas and touristic monuments are covered, few countries
> have good coverage in the country side, but there’s a lot to do everywhere,
> it may also depend on the kind of data ;-)
> >
> > For example housenumbers are incomplete even in the most active
> countries,
>
>
> House numbers are complete in Denmark. They are imported from official
> data.
>
> --
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Re: [Tagging] What is a proper way of mapping reedbed gowing od edge of the lake, within water?

2020-09-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 05:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> natural=wetland wetland=reedbed area within natural=water area?
>
> JOSM complains about this ("water area within water area") but
> such tagging seems fine to me.
>

That should be fine.

Have done similar with sandbanks etc previously & they've worked :-)

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[Tagging] What is a proper way of mapping reedbed gowing od edge of the lake, within water?

2020-09-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
natural=wetland wetland=reedbed area within natural=water area?

JOSM complains about this ("water area within water area") but
such tagging seems fine to me.

See https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/844830821
for an example
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
That redefines drinking_water:legal=yes which currently is described as 
including
places where status is not explicitly signed but is known to be good (examples 
may include water fountains setup and maintained by city).


Sep 6, 2020, 20:39 by europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com:

> if drinking_water:legal is about the content of a sign, I would prefer Paul‘s 
> suggestion:
> drinking_water:legal=unsigned>   
>
> +1
>
> I also agree that this is a good suggestion 
>
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 20:34, Martin Koppenhoefer <> dieterdre...@gmail.com> > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>  
>>  > On 6. Sep 2020, at 16:21, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <>> 
>> tagging@openstreetmap.org>> > wrote:
>>  > 
>>  > I will use drinking_water:legal=unknown
>>  
>>  
>>  if drinking_water:legal is about the content of a sign, I would prefer 
>> Paul‘s suggestion: 
>>  drinking_water:legal=unsigned
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread European Water Project
if drinking_water:legal is about the content of a sign, I would prefer
Paul‘s suggestion:
drinking_water:legal=unsigned

+1

I also agree that this is a good suggestion

On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 20:34, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

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>
> sent from a phone
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> > On 6. Sep 2020, at 16:21, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> >
> > I will use drinking_water:legal=unknown
>
>
> if drinking_water:legal is about the content of a sign, I would prefer
> Paul‘s suggestion:
> drinking_water:legal=unsigned
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 6. Sep 2020, at 16:21, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will use drinking_water:legal=unknown


if drinking_water:legal is about the content of a sign, I would prefer Paul‘s 
suggestion: 
drinking_water:legal=unsigned
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 6. Sep 2020, at 16:21, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> may be also unsigned, but it may be clearly coming from drinkable tap water


the water could be contaminated at the end of it’s journey (conduits), and not 
be suggested to drink although the general tap water quality of the area is 
good.

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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging



Sep 6, 2020, 15:51 by pla16...@gmail.com:

> On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 14:17, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> 
> tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
>
>>
>> drinking_water:signed=no ?
>>
>
> Ambiguous.  It might have a sign that says nothing about the legality.
>
> drinking_water:legal=unsigned?
> drinking_water:legal=unknown?
>

"drinking_water:legal=yes - The water is checked and approved by public 
authorities."
may be also unsigned, but it may be clearly coming from drinkable tap water

I will use drinking_water:legal=unknown
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Re: [Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 14:17, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> drinking_water:signed=no ?
>

Ambiguous.  It might have a sign that says nothing about the legality.

drinking_water:legal=unsigned?
drinking_water:legal=unknown?

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[Tagging] tagging drinking water of uncleaer official (signed) status

2020-09-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
We have drinking_water:legal=yes for water that is officially drinkable,
we have drinking_water:legal=no for water signed as not drinkable.

Do we have tag for water sources (amenity=drinking_water, drinking_water=yes)
that are neither officially or signably drinkable nor with "not drinkable sign"?

drinking_water:signed=no ?
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