Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Yves via Tagging
Interesting, this could also be used to let water in the ground in order not to 
cause subsidence by drying out the underground. Maybe we shouldn't map the 
intent, but be more descriptive. 
Technically, it is possibly just sett, but loose? 
Yves 

Le 17 février 2024 22:59:08 GMT+01:00, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging 
 a écrit :
>I asked a local Green politician, and it's apparently called "subsidence
>paving",  invented in earthquake zones in northern Italy.
>
>On 17/02/2024 17:46, Åbn wrote:
>> I think you should provide a picture.
>> 
>> 
>> On February 17, 2024 5:19:06 PM UTC, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between
>> surface=sett and surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is
>> covered by either. Where I live, there are some streets that are
>> paved, but the stones aren't set firmly, so they wobble a bit when
>> you drive/ cycle over them. It is perfectly safe, but it allows
>> rainwater to drain quicker, at least I think that is the reason
>> for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a xylophone (well,
>> lithophone, I guess), when going over them. Considering climate
>> change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it would be
>> important to map the difference between paved streets that don't
>> allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
>> probably some technical term for it. So, in short: Do we have a
>> tagging scheme for those or not? Anne
>> 
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Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging

I asked a local Green politician, and it's apparently called "subsidence
paving",  invented in earthquake zones in northern Italy.

On 17/02/2024 17:46, Åbn wrote:

I think you should provide a picture.


On February 17, 2024 5:19:06 PM UTC, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging
 wrote:

I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between
surface=sett and surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is
covered by either. Where I live, there are some streets that are
paved, but the stones aren't set firmly, so they wobble a bit when
you drive/ cycle over them. It is perfectly safe, but it allows
rainwater to drain quicker, at least I think that is the reason
for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a xylophone (well,
lithophone, I guess), when going over them. Considering climate
change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it would be
important to map the difference between paved streets that don't
allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
probably some technical term for it. So, in short: Do we have a
tagging scheme for those or not? Anne

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Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging

Judging from those photographs, they would be material=sett, but the
surface is not the same, as I said, the stones have some room to wiggle,
there is no filler in between the stones.

On 17/02/2024 18:41, Yves via Tagging wrote:

Surface=Paved is generic. Maybe you're talking about cobblestone?



Le 17 février 2024 18:19:06 GMT+01:00, Anne-Karoline Distel via
Tagging  a écrit :

I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between
surface=sett and surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is
covered by either. Where I live, there are some streets that are
paved, but the stones aren't set firmly, so they wobble a bit when
you drive/ cycle over them. It is perfectly safe, but it allows
rainwater to drain quicker, at least I think that is the reason
for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a xylophone (well,
lithophone, I guess), when going over them. Considering climate
change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it would be
important to map the difference between paved streets that don't
allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
probably some technical term for it. So, in short: Do we have a
tagging scheme for those or not? Anne

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Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging

That's the best I can do for now:
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=52.65192667=-7.251596667=17=1685817985195902=photo=0.22772882642716127=0.968169011381621=0
You can kind of see the gaps between the stones.

On 17/02/2024 17:46, Åbn wrote:

I think you should provide a picture.


On February 17, 2024 5:19:06 PM UTC, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging
 wrote:

I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between
surface=sett and surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is
covered by either. Where I live, there are some streets that are
paved, but the stones aren't set firmly, so they wobble a bit when
you drive/ cycle over them. It is perfectly safe, but it allows
rainwater to drain quicker, at least I think that is the reason
for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a xylophone (well,
lithophone, I guess), when going over them. Considering climate
change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it would be
important to map the difference between paved streets that don't
allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
probably some technical term for it. So, in short: Do we have a
tagging scheme for those or not? Anne

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Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Yves via Tagging
Surface=Paved is generic. Maybe you're talking about cobblestone?


Le 17 février 2024 18:19:06 GMT+01:00, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging 
 a écrit :
>I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between surface=sett and
>surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is covered by either. Where I
>live, there are some streets that are paved, but the stones aren't set
>firmly, so they wobble a bit when you drive/ cycle over them. It is
>perfectly safe, but it allows rainwater to drain quicker, at least I
>think that is the reason for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a
>xylophone (well, lithophone, I guess), when going over them.
>
>Considering climate change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it
>would be important to map the difference between paved streets that
>don't allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
>probably some technical term for it.
>
>So, in short: Do we have a tagging scheme for those or not?
>
>
>Anne
>
>
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Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Åbn
I think you should provide a picture.

On February 17, 2024 5:19:06 PM UTC, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging 
 wrote:
>I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between surface=sett and
>surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is covered by either. Where I
>live, there are some streets that are paved, but the stones aren't set
>firmly, so they wobble a bit when you drive/ cycle over them. It is
>perfectly safe, but it allows rainwater to drain quicker, at least I
>think that is the reason for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a
>xylophone (well, lithophone, I guess), when going over them.
>
>Considering climate change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it
>would be important to map the difference between paved streets that
>don't allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
>probably some technical term for it.
>
>So, in short: Do we have a tagging scheme for those or not?
>
>
>Anne
>
>
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Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Åbn
I think you should provide a picture

On February 17, 2024 5:19:06 PM UTC, Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging 
 wrote:
>I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between surface=sett and
>surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is covered by either. Where I
>live, there are some streets that are paved, but the stones aren't set
>firmly, so they wobble a bit when you drive/ cycle over them. It is
>perfectly safe, but it allows rainwater to drain quicker, at least I
>think that is the reason for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a
>xylophone (well, lithophone, I guess), when going over them.
>
>Considering climate change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it
>would be important to map the difference between paved streets that
>don't allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
>probably some technical term for it.
>
>So, in short: Do we have a tagging scheme for those or not?
>
>
>Anne
>
>
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[Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

2024-02-17 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel via Tagging

I'm not sure I'm understanding the differences between surface=sett and
surface=paved or if what I'm trying to map is covered by either. Where I
live, there are some streets that are paved, but the stones aren't set
firmly, so they wobble a bit when you drive/ cycle over them. It is
perfectly safe, but it allows rainwater to drain quicker, at least I
think that is the reason for this type of paving. It sounds a bit like a
xylophone (well, lithophone, I guess), when going over them.

Considering climate change and the higher likelihood of flooding etc, it
would be important to map the difference between paved streets that
don't allow for quick drainage and these loosely paved streets. There is
probably some technical term for it.

So, in short: Do we have a tagging scheme for those or not?


Anne


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