Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

2019-07-04 Thread Leif Rasmussen
I personally like tagging the highway as one way with change:lanes until
the line starts to split into two. This gives data consumers more power
over what they show, and allows for a more accurate representation of
reality.
- Leif Rasmussen

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019, 3:18 PM Snusmumriken 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 10:11 +, Philip Barnes wrote:
> > On Thursday, 4 July 2019, Snusmumriken wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2019-07-03 at 14:03 -0600, Jack Armstrong Dancer--- via
> > > talk
> > > wrote:
> > > > I've always had the impression we should not create separate
> > > > traffic
> > > > lanes unless "traffic flows are physically separated by a barrier
> > > > (e.g., grass, concrete, steel), which prevents movements between
> > > > said
> > > > flows."
> > >
> > > A painted line that has the legal status of "do not cross" is a
> > > perfectly fine reason to have a separate way.
> > >
> > I would strongly disagree with this statement, as others have said
> > this is a place for lane mapping.
> >
> > As a map user I do not see a separate way, it results in confusing
> > navigation instructions, turn instead of take the first exit from the
> > roundabout.
> >
> > There are also times when lines are not visible due to snow,
> > whiteover with frost or just salt turning the road white.
>
> Where I'm from that would be a poor excuse if caught crossing a solid
> line. And wouldn't it be great if your favorite navigation software
> could tell you how traffic can legally flow? Even if the weather
> condition were such that you couldn't observe the solid line.
>
> Also I don't get how roundabouts are relevant for this discussion.
>
>
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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

2019-07-04 Thread Snusmumriken
On Thu, 2019-07-04 at 10:11 +, Philip Barnes wrote:
> On Thursday, 4 July 2019, Snusmumriken wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-07-03 at 14:03 -0600, Jack Armstrong Dancer--- via
> > talk
> > wrote:
> > > I've always had the impression we should not create separate
> > > traffic
> > > lanes unless "traffic flows are physically separated by a barrier
> > > (e.g., grass, concrete, steel), which prevents movements between
> > > said
> > > flows."
> > 
> > A painted line that has the legal status of "do not cross" is a
> > perfectly fine reason to have a separate way.
> > 
> I would strongly disagree with this statement, as others have said
> this is a place for lane mapping.
> 
> As a map user I do not see a separate way, it results in confusing
> navigation instructions, turn instead of take the first exit from the
> roundabout.
> 
> There are also times when lines are not visible due to snow,
> whiteover with frost or just salt turning the road white.

Where I'm from that would be a poor excuse if caught crossing a solid
line. And wouldn't it be great if your favorite navigation software
could tell you how traffic can legally flow? Even if the weather
condition were such that you couldn't observe the solid line.

Also I don't get how roundabouts are relevant for this discussion.


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Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

2019-07-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thursday, 4 July 2019, Snusmumriken wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-07-03 at 14:03 -0600, Jack Armstrong Dancer--- via talk
> wrote:
> > I've always had the impression we should not create separate traffic
> > lanes unless "traffic flows are physically separated by a barrier
> > (e.g., grass, concrete, steel), which prevents movements between said
> > flows."
> 
> A painted line that has the legal status of "do not cross" is a
> perfectly fine reason to have a separate way.
> 
I would strongly disagree with this statement, as others have said this is a 
place for lane mapping.

As a map user I do not see a separate way, it results in confusing navigation 
instructions, turn instead of take the first exit from the roundabout.

There are also times when lines are not visible due to snow, whiteover with 
frost or just salt turning the road white.

Phil (trigpoint)

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