Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
Following discussions in various places, I came to the conclusion that the loungers I care about are not the loungers documented as such under the amenity=lounger tag, but rather a kind of bench https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bench%3Dwave_lounger Thank you all for participating. Now wondering how to mark the proposal out of draft. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
sent from a phone > On 3 Jul 2023, at 01:27, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Ah, but is that frame, material or surface? :-) frankly I believe this level of detail would be overdoing it. Feel free to develop any scheme you feel suits well. If I wanted to tag more detail, priority would be „material“ and it would refer to the material where you sit/lie on. Another approach would be tagging specific or generic models/types (similar to how we do it for drinking fountains). ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 05:39, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > https://i.etsystatic.com/26861520/r/il/09aa34/3144992841/il_1140xN.3144992841_ps9i.jpg > Ah, but is that frame, material or surface? :-) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/benches-material/100491 Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
https://i.etsystatic.com/26861520/r/il/09aa34/3144992841/il_1140xN.3144992841_ps9i.jpg___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
sent from a phone > On 2 Jul 2023, at 20:19, Asa Hundert wrote: > > I'd have to propose to deprecate the uses on areas > that allows for such atrocities as "amenity=lounger; surface=grass". I don’t think this would be suitable tagging for a Liegewiese (habe recently seen such a sign in the swimming pool, a nicer way to say no ball playing I guess). If it were for a lounger with growing grass on it, it would be ok. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
I don't see the current usage to be a problem. On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 2:19 PM Asa Hundert wrote: > I want this amenable to consumers. If I were to propose an attribute > to the other tag, I'd have to propose to deprecate the uses on areas > that allows for such atrocities as "amenity=lounger; surface=grass". > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
I want this amenable to consumers. If I were to propose an attribute to the other tag, I'd have to propose to deprecate the uses on areas that allows for such atrocities as "amenity=lounger; surface=grass". ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
Jul 2, 2023, 10:40 by hungerb...@gmail.com: > Am So., 2. Juli 2023 um 10:10 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > >> >> Why not subtag for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlounger >> ? >> > > That other tag can be applied to areas in two different ways: either > representing a single item - or as a place, where > commonly/sometimes/seasonally/depending on time of day/and who knows > what - none, one, or more loungers can be found. > > This one is meant for fixed installs only and not for use on areas. > The lounger tag cannot be reused because it is designed too badly. > I do not really see a big problem here, if someone wants they can add extra tags counting capacity/number of loungers or intermittent=yes or seasonal=yes But this should be listed in proposal to let people judge is it a good idea___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
Am So., 2. Juli 2023 um 10:10 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > > Why not subtag for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlounger ? That other tag can be applied to areas in two different ways: either representing a single item - or as a place, where commonly/sometimes/seasonally/depending on time of day/and who knows what - none, one, or more loungers can be found. This one is meant for fixed installs only and not for use on areas. The lounger tag cannot be reused because it is designed too badly. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
Why not subtag for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlounger ? amenity=lounger lounger=wave amenity=lounger lounger=wave_lounger seems better to me as someone can map lounger without classifying it subtype (and we may have ideas to map more lounger classes in future) And mentioning how to distinguish amenity=lounger from amenity=wave_lounger would be useful in either case --- "Generalisation should be up to the cartographers and not the mappers." 1) it depends on generalization type, some generalisation is unavoidable at time of mapping and makes sense Any classification of real objects (tagging objects in OSM) already is some generalization 2) It is not changing that (A) cascading tagging ( amenity=general_class general_class=detail ) (B) using properties ( amenity=general_class property=value ) is very often better than (C) direct superdetailed classification - amenity=super_detailed_subtype_a - amenity=super_detailed_subtype_b - amenity=super_detailed_subtype_c - amenity=super_detailed_subtype_d - amenity=super_detailed_subtype_e amenity=wave_lounger sounds to me like using natural=oak rather then natural=tree + separate property for mapping that it is an oak ( say, taxon:en=oak ) or historic=memorial_bench instead of historic=memorial memorial=bench or historic=blue_plaque instead of historic=memorial memorial=blue_plaque or... (see other values at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic=memorial?uselang=en#Tags_to_use_in_combination ) Jul 2, 2023, 00:55 by hungerb...@gmail.com: > Please weigh in on this proposed new tag, here, in the community > forum, in the wiki talk page: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Wave_lounger > > Looking forward > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Wave Lounger
Please weigh in on this proposed new tag, here, in the community forum, in the wiki talk page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Wave_lounger Looking forward ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
