Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 1. Apr 2018, at 00:48,  
>  wrote:
> 
> There is also an automated key mentioned on the wiki.
> 
>  
> 
> This applies mostly to self_service I would guess, and I assumed 
> automated=yes indicates that you can pay at the pump.
> 


automated=yes doesn’t appear to be a clear tag. It is not clear what it refers 
to (refilling, payment, etc.) by the literal meaning of the word I would expect 
some robotic arm to refuel (or charge in case of an electric vehicle).

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Paul Johnson]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 5:48 PM,  wrote:

> There is also an automated key mentioned on the wiki.
>
>
>
> This applies mostly to self_service I would guess, and I assumed
> automated=yes indicates that you can pay at the pump.
>
>
>
> I didn’t mention the following because taginfo showed that it’s not used
> and there pretty surely is no software support for them yet, but I agree
> with marc that it would make sense to extend the allowed values from
> yes/no.
>
>
>
> I think two additional values would make sense: only (=yes, and only this)
> and optional (=yes, but alternatives exist). They are basically both more
> specific versions of “yes”.
>
>
>
> If we are not going to define completely new keys, I would suggest keeping
> both self_service and full_service, but with the extended values you can
> get away with only defining one of the two.
>
>
>
> e.g.
>
>
>
> self_service=optional (implies full_service=optional)
>
> full_service=only (implies self_service=no)
>

It should be noted that minimum service is where they just pump the gas
(and they might wash your windows if it's slow and they're bored).  Full
service, they also check your fluids and top off what's low a discounted
rate or no extra charge.  Additionally, minimum service is cheaper than
self service, full service tends to be the same price or more expensive
than self service.
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[osm.tagging]

There is also an automated key mentioned on the wiki. 

 

This applies mostly to self_service I would guess, and I assumed automated=yes 
indicates that you can pay at the pump.

 

I didn’t mention the following because taginfo showed that it’s not used and 
there pretty surely is no software support for them yet, but I agree with marc 
that it would make sense to extend the allowed values from yes/no. 

 

I think two additional values would make sense: only (=yes, and only this) and 
optional (=yes, but alternatives exist). They are basically both more specific 
versions of “yes”.

 

If we are not going to define completely new keys, I would suggest keeping both 
self_service and full_service, but with the extended values you can get away 
with only defining one of the two.

 

e.g.

 

self_service=optional (implies full_service=optional)

full_service=only (implies self_service=no)

 

if we add the automated key and the extend value, we get:

 

automated=no (have to interact with a human to pay)

automated=yes (you can pay directly at the pump, it’s unknown if it’s 
alternatively possible to interact with a human to pay)

automated=only (you have to pay at the pump, no alternative exists. e.g. this 
would apply to the Costco petrol station near me)

automated=optional (you can pay at the pump, but it’s also possible to interact 
with a human to pay)

 

I do realize that the things you can express with this combination of 
self_service, full_service, and automated keys is somewhat different from the 6 
variants presented by Paul below, but I think it’s the best that can be done 
when using the existing keys and a (hopefully somewhat logical) extension of 
the values.

 

Also, all 3 keys should allow the use of :conditional

 

If the possibilities expressed by these 3 keys is considered insufficient, then 
we’ll probably have to define some completely new key.

 

Cheers,

Thorsten

 

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Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2018 04:06
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

 

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk 
<mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> > wrote:

On 29 March 2018 at 11:58, Javier Sánchez Portero <javiers...@gmail.com 
<mailto:javiers...@gmail.com> > wrote:

> I'm looking for a key to denote if you have
> to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self
> service mode.

There are (at least) three modes:

* Attendant service
* Self service, pay at kiosk
* Self service, pay at pump

 

I'd go with more.

 

* Self service, pay at kiosk

* Self service, pay at pump

* Minimum service, pay at pump (default in Oregon and New Jersey)

* Minimum service, pay in store (basically just Arco in Oregon)

* Full service, pay at pump (uncommon)

* Full service, pay at kiosk (is this even a thing?)

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Paul Johnson]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On 29 March 2018 at 11:58, Javier Sánchez Portero 
> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a key to denote if you have
> > to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self
> > service mode.
>
> There are (at least) three modes:
>
> * Attendant service
> * Self service, pay at kiosk
> * Self service, pay at pump
>

I'd go with more.

* Self service, pay at kiosk
* Self service, pay at pump
* Minimum service, pay at pump (default in Oregon and New Jersey)
* Minimum service, pay in store (basically just Arco in Oregon)
* Full service, pay at pump (uncommon)
* Full service, pay at kiosk (is this even a thing?)
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Andy Mabbett]

On 29 March 2018 at 11:58, Javier Sánchez Portero  wrote:

> I'm looking for a key to denote if you have
> to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self
> service mode.

There are (at least) three modes:

* Attendant service
* Self service, pay at kiosk
* Self service, pay at pump

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[marc marc]

could this be simplified with yes/no/only ?

> 2018-03-30 11:37 GMT+01:00 :
> Only serviced by attendant:
> self_service=no
> full_service=yes

self_service=no

> Self service always available, attended only during the day:
> self_service=yes
> full_service=no
> full_service:conditional=yes @ 06:00-18:00

self_service=yes
self_service:conditional=only @ 18:00-06:00

> Self service only available at night when no attendant is present:
> self_service=yes
> full_service:conditional=no @ 06:00-18:00
> full_service=no
> full_service:conditional=yes @ 06:00-18:00

self_service=yes
self_service:conditional=no @ 06:00-18:00

this would avoid to parse 2 key which are only 2 values defining the service
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

2018-03-30 11:37 GMT+01:00 :

> Based on the information provided here:
>
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel#Service
>
>
>
> and what was stated in previous posts on the mailing list, I would guess
> that the correct tags would be:
>
>
>
> Only serviced by attendant:
>
>
>
> self_service=no
>
> full_service=yes
>
>
>
> Self service always available, attended only during the day:
>
>
>
> self_service=yes
>
> full_service=no
>
> full_service:conditional=yes @ 06:00-18:00
>
>
>
> (following the recommendation in the wiki to specify the default value
> explicitly when it’s not obvious)
>
>
>
> Self service only available at night when no attendant is present:
>
>
>
> self_service=yes
>
> full_service:conditional=no @ 06:00-18:00
>
> full_service=no
>
> full_service:conditional=yes @ 06:00-18:00
>
>
>
>
>
> The expectation for the default values of self_serivce and full_service
> will probably vary greatly from location to location, so it’s probably best
> to always explicitly specify both to take the guessing out of it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hello. Good abstract.

I have added this to

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 30. Mar 2018, at 12:37,  
>  wrote:
> 
> The expectation for the default values of self_serivce and full_service will 
> probably vary greatly from location to location, so it’s probably best to 
> always explicitly specify both to take the guessing out of it.


I would also suggest to tag both, as full service stations tend to charge more 
(naturally), but not so few stations offer both (also during the day, serviced 
or not according to the pump you choose).

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[osm.tagging]

Based on the information provided here:

 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel#Service

 

and what was stated in previous posts on the mailing list, I would guess that 
the correct tags would be:

 

Only serviced by attendant:

 

self_service=no

full_service=yes

 

Self service always available, attended only during the day:

 

self_service=yes

full_service=no

full_service:conditional=yes @ 06:00-18:00

 

(following the recommendation in the wiki to specify the default value 
explicitly when it’s not obvious)

 

Self service only available at night when no attendant is present:

 

self_service=yes

full_service:conditional=no @ 06:00-18:00

full_service=no

full_service:conditional=yes @ 06:00-18:00

 

 

The expectation for the default values of self_serivce and full_service will 
probably vary greatly from location to location, so it’s probably best to 
always explicitly specify both to take the guessing out of it.

 

 

From: José G Moya Y. <josem...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, 30 March 2018 18:53
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

 

I understand you can tag "self_service:no" in case of attended fuel stations?

 

As Javier says, disabled people use to need attended fuel stations. In Spain 
(are you from here, Javier?) some administrative areas (atonomous communities) 
are moving to enforce attended fuel stations. 

 

In other countries, the situation is the one explained before in this thread: 
some pumps are attended, some are not, and prices may be different (I remember 
this happened to me in a travel to Italy, but 13 years have passed from that).

 

 

 

El vie., 30 de marzo de 2018 10:39, Javier Sánchez Portero 
<javiers...@gmail.com <mailto:javiers...@gmail.com> > escribió:

 

El vie., 30 mar. 2018 8:54, <osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au 
<mailto:osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au> > escribió:

While it has never been used before, the logical key to me would be 
self_service:conditional following the usual rules for conditional keys.

I agree. It will require only a minor change in the conditional restrictions 
wiki.

 

Javier

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[José G Moya Y .]

I understand you can tag "self_service:no" in case of attended fuel
stations?

As Javier says, disabled people use to need attended fuel stations. In
Spain (are you from here, Javier?) some administrative areas (atonomous
communities) are moving to enforce attended fuel stations.

In other countries, the situation is the one explained before in this
thread: some pumps are attended, some are not, and prices may be different
(I remember this happened to me in a travel to Italy, but 13 years have
passed from that).



El vie., 30 de marzo de 2018 10:39, Javier Sánchez Portero <
javiers...@gmail.com> escribió:

>
>
> El vie., 30 mar. 2018 8:54,  escribió:
>
>> While it has never been used before, the logical key to me would be
>> self_service:conditional following the usual rules for conditional keys.
>>
> I agree. It will require only a minor change in the conditional
> restrictions wiki.
>
> Javier
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Philip Barnes]

On 30 March 2018 08:50:07 BST, "Javier Sánchez Portero"  
wrote:
>El vie., 30 mar. 2018 8:a


>I think this is important for disabled drivers to have to go down the
>car
>to fill or not.
>
Not really, at self service filling stations the cashier will fill the car for 
disabled drivers. 

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

El vie., 30 mar. 2018 8:54,  escribió:

> While it has never been used before, the logical key to me would be
> self_service:conditional following the usual rules for conditional keys.
>
I agree. It will require only a minor change in the conditional
restrictions wiki.

Javier

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[osm.tagging]

While it has never been used before, the logical key to me would be 
self_service:conditional following the usual rules for conditional keys.

 

 

At least you can choose during the day if you fuel by your self or not. So I 
would treat it as not self service during the day.

 

I consider this a interesting fact to map. Has any one a sugestion on how to?

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

El vie., 30 mar. 2018 8:13, Stephan Knauss 
escribió:

> Hello Dave,
>
> As this is a thing country specific, people typically expect the norm. So
> no need to tag this explicitly.
>
> Question is how to tag it.
>
> self_service sounds like the right key to tag exceptions from the norm. It
> can also be used with the same meaning for example for car wash. These come
> as well as stations where you insert coins in a machine to get pressurized
> water or with staff doing the car wash for you, eg while you are shopping
> in the supermarket.
>
> Stephan
>
>
> On March 30, 2018 12:08:44 PM GMT+07:00, Dave Swarthout <
> daveswarth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In the U.S. almost all service stations are unattended these days. The
>> pumps are automated and accept only credit cards. Persons needing to pay
>> cash have to go to a separate office or shop to pay. Oregon used to be the
>> only state I visit regularly in which customers were not allowed to fuel
>> their vehicles. Attendants did everything; filled the tank, cleaned the
>> windshield, checked the oil. IIRC, that law just recently changed.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Stephan Knauss 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is the norm that you have an attendant coming and filling up the tank
>>> for you.
>>>
>>> Some places will always clean the windscreen while waiting for the
>>> refill, but don't this is something to tag special as you can always ask
>>> the attendant to clean them.
>>>
>>> In some countries it differs, so I suggest to tag things not following
>>> the norm of the country.
>>>
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>> On March 29, 2018 5:58:51 PM GMT+07:00, "Javier Sánchez Portero" <
>>> javiers...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been
 used the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if
 you have to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on
 self service mode.

 Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.

 I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in the
 wiki is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me
 further details?

 Thank you, Javier.

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In some countries the norm is to fill the tank by self service, in other
with attendants, but in many you can find both classes of stations so there
aren't a default value there.

I think this is important for disabled drivers to have to go down the car
to fill or not.

Javier

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Stephan Knauss]

Hello Dave,

As this is a thing country specific, people typically expect the norm. So no 
need to tag this explicitly.

Question is how to tag it.

self_service sounds like the right key to tag exceptions from the norm. It can 
also be used with the same meaning for example for car wash. These come as well 
as stations where you insert coins in a machine to get pressurized water or 
with staff doing the car wash for you, eg while you are shopping in the 
supermarket.

Stephan


On March 30, 2018 12:08:44 PM GMT+07:00, Dave Swarthout 
 wrote:
>In the U.S. almost all service stations are unattended these days. The
>pumps are automated and accept only credit cards. Persons needing to
>pay
>cash have to go to a separate office or shop to pay. Oregon used to be
>the
>only state I visit regularly in which customers were not allowed to
>fuel
>their vehicles. Attendants did everything; filled the tank, cleaned the
>windshield, checked the oil. IIRC, that law just recently changed.
>
>Dave
>
>On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Stephan Knauss
>
>wrote:
>
>> It is the norm that you have an attendant coming and filling up the
>tank
>> for you.
>>
>> Some places will always clean the windscreen while waiting for the
>refill,
>> but don't this is something to tag special as you can always ask the
>> attendant to clean them.
>>
>> In some countries it differs, so I suggest to tag things not
>following the
>> norm of the country.
>>
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>> On March 29, 2018 5:58:51 PM GMT+07:00, "Javier Sánchez Portero" <
>> javiers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have
>been
>>> used the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to
>denote if
>>> you have to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station
>operates on
>>> self service mode.
>>>
>>> Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.
>>>
>>> I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in
>the
>>> wiki is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one
>give me
>>> further details?
>>>
>>> Thank you, Javier.
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Dave Swarthout]

In the U.S. almost all service stations are unattended these days. The
pumps are automated and accept only credit cards. Persons needing to pay
cash have to go to a separate office or shop to pay. Oregon used to be the
only state I visit regularly in which customers were not allowed to fuel
their vehicles. Attendants did everything; filled the tank, cleaned the
windshield, checked the oil. IIRC, that law just recently changed.

Dave

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Stephan Knauss 
wrote:

> It is the norm that you have an attendant coming and filling up the tank
> for you.
>
> Some places will always clean the windscreen while waiting for the refill,
> but don't this is something to tag special as you can always ask the
> attendant to clean them.
>
> In some countries it differs, so I suggest to tag things not following the
> norm of the country.
>
> Stephan
>
>
> On March 29, 2018 5:58:51 PM GMT+07:00, "Javier Sánchez Portero" <
> javiers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been
>> used the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if
>> you have to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on
>> self service mode.
>>
>> Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.
>>
>> I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in the
>> wiki is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me
>> further details?
>>
>> Thank you, Javier.
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Stephan Knauss]

It is the norm that you have an attendant coming and filling up the tank for 
you.

Some places will always clean the windscreen while waiting for the refill, but 
don't this is something to tag special as you can always ask the attendant to 
clean them.

In some countries it differs, so I suggest to tag things not following the norm 
of the country.

Stephan


On March 29, 2018 5:58:51 PM GMT+07:00, "Javier Sánchez Portero" 
 wrote:
>Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been
>used
>the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if you
>have to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on
>self
>service mode.
>
>Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.
>
>I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in the
>wiki
>is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me
>further
>details?
>
>Thank you, Javier.
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On 30 March 2018 at 05:34, Javier Sánchez Portero 
wrote:

> In my area  there are still some serviced stations and I consider this an
> added value.
>

Definitely!

Question re another variation thanks.

We have a service station nearby that has an attendant during the day, but,
he only looks after the pumps at that end, the pumps a this end are
self-serve.

How would you handle that?

Thanks

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

2018-03-29 15:22 GMT+01:00 Javier Sánchez Portero :

> 2018-03-29 13:14 GMT+01:00 Michal Fabík :
>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero
>>  wrote:
>> > Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been
>> used
>> > the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if you
>> have
>> > to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self
>> > service mode.
>> >
>> > Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.
>> >
>> > I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in the
>> wiki
>> > is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me
>> further
>> > details?
>> >
>> > Thank you, Javier.
>>
>> Hi,
>> I can't really tell what the tenant tag is intended for either. In any
>> case, there's the tag self_service:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:self_service. (And yes,
>> attendant is the right word.)
>>
>> --
>> Michal Fabík
>>
>
> Opsss! There was a mention to it in the Tag:amenity=fuel wiki. I didn't
> see it. Thank you.
>
>
BTW. How would you tag if the station usually have attendants but operates
in self service mode in nightly hours. I think in the conditional postfix,
like this:

self_service:conditional = yes @ (22:00-06:00)

With no uses in taginfo. An alternative is opening_hours:self_service=*
with only two uses.

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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Philip Barnes]

Although very few mappers will tag self service as it is usually the norm in 
most places.

Phil (trigpoint) 

On 29 March 2018 15:22:17 BST, "Javier Sánchez Portero"  
wrote:
>Opsss! There was a mention to it in the Tag:amenity=fuel wiki. I didn't
>see
>it. Thank you.
>
>2018-03-29 13:14 GMT+01:00 Michal Fabík :
>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero
>>  wrote:
>> > Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have
>been
>> used
>> > the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if
>you
>> have
>> > to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on
>self
>> > service mode.
>> >
>> > Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.
>> >
>> > I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in
>the
>> wiki
>> > is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me
>> further
>> > details?
>> >
>> > Thank you, Javier.
>>
>> Hi,
>> I can't really tell what the tenant tag is intended for either. In
>any
>> case, there's the tag self_service:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:self_service. (And yes,
>> attendant is the right word.)
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

Opsss! There was a mention to it in the Tag:amenity=fuel wiki. I didn't see
it. Thank you.

2018-03-29 13:14 GMT+01:00 Michal Fabík :

> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero
>  wrote:
> > Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been
> used
> > the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if you
> have
> > to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self
> > service mode.
> >
> > Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.
> >
> > I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in the
> wiki
> > is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me
> further
> > details?
> >
> > Thank you, Javier.
>
> Hi,
> I can't really tell what the tenant tag is intended for either. In any
> case, there's the tag self_service:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:self_service. (And yes,
> attendant is the right word.)
>
> --
> Michal Fabík
>
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Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Michal Fabík]

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero
 wrote:
> Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been used
> the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if you have
> to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self
> service mode.
>
> Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.
>
> I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in the wiki
> is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me further
> details?
>
> Thank you, Javier.

Hi,
I can't really tell what the tenant tag is intended for either. In any
case, there's the tag self_service:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:self_service. (And yes,
attendant is the right word.)

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[Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

Sorry, english is not my first languange and I'm not sure of have been used
the correct word in the subject. I'm looking for a key to denote if you
have to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self
service mode.

Didn't found nothing in the wiki or taginfo.

I'm confused also about the use of Key:tenant. The description in the wiki
is to short for a non native English speaker. Could any one give me further
details?

Thank you, Javier.
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