Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
Hi Severin, Thank you, that is very helpful. -- Matthijs On 24 December 2013 14:00, Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I confirm shop that sell lottery tickets are very common in some countries, eg in Haiti. I uploaded one of my personal photo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Lottery_haiti_bolet.JPG I put as a caption: This picture shows a lottery shop in Haiti, called bolet. This kind of shop only proposes lottery. Even if some of them have a Bank mention (like this one), they are not banks, only lotteries. Sincerely, Severin Message: 6 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 14:39:02 + From: Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling Message-ID: cad940mqd4hp296jj-bdva4rgsxsrgv7od-c_yzrhaxg-saw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I agree. The images I linked to are not under an open license of course, but I will ask the Spanish community if someone could take a picture. Would any of the Germans on this list perhaps be able to make a picture of a Lottoladen, prefarable a picture that both shows that it is called 'Lotto' and that it does sell a lot of things beside lottery tickets? -- Matthijs On 1 December 2013 14:20, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Thanks for these examples. Probably something like that should be added to the proosal for documentation and further classification. The proposal is very verbose with text, but hasn't much examples and images for clarifications. Adding something like the Images you linked to would be a benefit for the mappers later, but adding counter examples would be, too (like a German Lottoladen with a matching tagging that differs from shop=lottery). regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 14:06, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: On 1 December 2013 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing a little strange might be shop=lottery for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. Maybe I simply have never lived in an area where those exist, but really, I cannot recall of having ever seen a shop like this. IMHO this would better be an attribute (for shops and similar that sell, beside other stuff, also lottery tickets). The tag shop=lottery is currently mainly used in Spain and Latin America, so I suppose these are the regions where such shops exist. They look like this: Brazil: http://allexmoreira.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/grande-inauduracao-da-loterica-trevo-da.html Spain: http://www.azarplus.com/fotos/noticias_fotocabecera_1713.jpg Argentina: http://www.diarioepoca.com/notix2/multimedia/imagenes/fotos/2012-09-26/710194.jpg As you can see, they are very different from German 'Lottoladen'. -- Matthijs ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
Hi, I confirm shop that sell lottery tickets are very common in some countries, eg in Haiti. I uploaded one of my personal photo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Lottery_haiti_bolet.JPG I put as a caption: This picture shows a lottery shop in Haiti, called bolet. This kind of shop only proposes lottery. Even if some of them have a Bank mention (like this one), they are not banks, only lotteries. Sincerely, Severin Message: 6 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 14:39:02 + From: Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling Message-ID: cad940mqd4hp296jj-bdva4rgsxsrgv7od-c_yzrhaxg-saw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I agree. The images I linked to are not under an open license of course, but I will ask the Spanish community if someone could take a picture. Would any of the Germans on this list perhaps be able to make a picture of a Lottoladen, prefarable a picture that both shows that it is called 'Lotto' and that it does sell a lot of things beside lottery tickets? -- Matthijs On 1 December 2013 14:20, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Thanks for these examples. Probably something like that should be added to the proosal for documentation and further classification. The proposal is very verbose with text, but hasn't much examples and images for clarifications. Adding something like the Images you linked to would be a benefit for the mappers later, but adding counter examples would be, too (like a German Lottoladen with a matching tagging that differs from shop=lottery). regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 14:06, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: On 1 December 2013 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing a little strange might be shop=lottery for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. Maybe I simply have never lived in an area where those exist, but really, I cannot recall of having ever seen a shop like this. IMHO this would better be an attribute (for shops and similar that sell, beside other stuff, also lottery tickets). The tag shop=lottery is currently mainly used in Spain and Latin America, so I suppose these are the regions where such shops exist. They look like this: Brazil: http://allexmoreira.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/grande-inauduracao-da-loterica-trevo-da.html Spain: http://www.azarplus.com/fotos/noticias_fotocabecera_1713.jpg Argentina: http://www.diarioepoca.com/notix2/multimedia/imagenes/fotos/2012-09-26/710194.jpg As you can see, they are very different from German 'Lottoladen'. -- Matthijs ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
2013/12/1 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl Based on your comments, I have created a new version of the proposal for gambling features. The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gambling thanks for this effort, it now looks fine. The only thing a little strange might be shop=lottery for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. Maybe I simply have never lived in an area where those exist, but really, I cannot recall of having ever seen a shop like this. IMHO this would better be an attribute (for shops and similar that sell, beside other stuff, also lottery tickets). Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
Hi, I thought about this as well when I read the current proposal. In Germany there are lot's of shops that are named as being primarily for selling lottery tickets, but looking into it they are usually selling the common combination of newspapers and magazines, tobacco and so on. The lottery is often nothing else than the most prominent ad at the store. Therefore most often they objectively don't qualify for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 10:47, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2013/12/1 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl Based on your comments, I have created a new version of the proposal for gambling features. The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gambling thanks for this effort, it now looks fine. The only thing a little strange might be shop=lottery for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. Maybe I simply have never lived in an area where those exist, but really, I cannot recall of having ever seen a shop like this. IMHO this would better be an attribute (for shops and similar that sell, beside other stuff, also lottery tickets). Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
On 1 December 2013 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing a little strange might be shop=lottery for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. Maybe I simply have never lived in an area where those exist, but really, I cannot recall of having ever seen a shop like this. IMHO this would better be an attribute (for shops and similar that sell, beside other stuff, also lottery tickets). The tag shop=lottery is currently mainly used in Spain and Latin America, so I suppose these are the regions where such shops exist. They look like this: Brazil: http://allexmoreira.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/grande-inauduracao-da-loterica-trevo-da.html Spain: http://www.azarplus.com/fotos/noticias_fotocabecera_1713.jpg Argentina: http://www.diarioepoca.com/notix2/multimedia/imagenes/fotos/2012-09-26/710194.jpg As you can see, they are very different from German 'Lottoladen'. -- Matthijs ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
Thanks for these examples. Probably something like that should be added to the proosal for documentation and further classification. The proposal is very verbose with text, but hasn't much examples and images for clarifications. Adding something like the Images you linked to would be a benefit for the mappers later, but adding counter examples would be, too (like a German Lottoladen with a matching tagging that differs from shop=lottery). regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 14:06, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: On 1 December 2013 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing a little strange might be shop=lottery for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. Maybe I simply have never lived in an area where those exist, but really, I cannot recall of having ever seen a shop like this. IMHO this would better be an attribute (for shops and similar that sell, beside other stuff, also lottery tickets). The tag shop=lottery is currently mainly used in Spain and Latin America, so I suppose these are the regions where such shops exist. They look like this: Brazil: http://allexmoreira.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/grande-inauduracao-da-loterica-trevo-da.html Spain: http://www.azarplus.com/fotos/noticias_fotocabecera_1713.jpg Argentina: http://www.diarioepoca.com/notix2/multimedia/imagenes/fotos/2012-09-26/710194.jpg As you can see, they are very different from German 'Lottoladen'. -- Matthijs ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
Yes, I agree. The images I linked to are not under an open license of course, but I will ask the Spanish community if someone could take a picture. Would any of the Germans on this list perhaps be able to make a picture of a Lottoladen, prefarable a picture that both shows that it is called 'Lotto' and that it does sell a lot of things beside lottery tickets? -- Matthijs On 1 December 2013 14:20, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Thanks for these examples. Probably something like that should be added to the proosal for documentation and further classification. The proposal is very verbose with text, but hasn't much examples and images for clarifications. Adding something like the Images you linked to would be a benefit for the mappers later, but adding counter examples would be, too (like a German Lottoladen with a matching tagging that differs from shop=lottery). regards Peter Am 01.12.2013 14:06, schrieb Matthijs Melissen: On 1 December 2013 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing a little strange might be shop=lottery for shops whose main purpose is selling lottery tickets. Maybe I simply have never lived in an area where those exist, but really, I cannot recall of having ever seen a shop like this. IMHO this would better be an attribute (for shops and similar that sell, beside other stuff, also lottery tickets). The tag shop=lottery is currently mainly used in Spain and Latin America, so I suppose these are the regions where such shops exist. They look like this: Brazil: http://allexmoreira.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/grande-inauduracao-da-loterica-trevo-da.html Spain: http://www.azarplus.com/fotos/noticias_fotocabecera_1713.jpg Argentina: http://www.diarioepoca.com/notix2/multimedia/imagenes/fotos/2012-09-26/710194.jpg As you can see, they are very different from German 'Lottoladen'. -- Matthijs ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling
Dear all, Based on your comments, I have created a new version of the proposal for gambling features. The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gambling The main difference with the previous version is that a distinction is now made between adult gaming centres and amusement arcades. In addition, amusement arcades have been moved from the amenity to the leisure key. Please let me know whether you agree with this proposal. With kind regards, Matthijs ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
