Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=silo)
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.comwrote: My understanding is that tags in general use don't need a vote. Assuming that's correct, I've updated the man_made=silo page with info from the proposal. (Although from taginfo, few existing silos have additional tags) The problem with not voting, is details don't get discussed, and unilateral things start happening to the wiki, even on a feature with 20,000 instances. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=silo)
Sorry I wasn't clear, Pieren, I meant man_made=silo is in general use (20K uses). I'm not sure what you mean about silo=*. Cheers, Brad On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that tags in general use don't need a vote. I see one use of silo=* in taginfo which is not something I would call general use... The tags name=name of the facility and operator shouldn't go on the silos themselves but on the polygon surrounding the whole facility. Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=silo)
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: No, the name of the facility and operator shouldn't go on the silo but on the polygon or node identifying the facility. Exactly: this is where the voting process is useful, hashing issues out like this rather than just making unilateral edits. There are plenty of standalone silos where the facility and the silo are one and the same. Insisting on a facility polygon to the fence lines is not done for buildings, water towers, post offices, radar stations or other features. Thus I'm not sure why silo would be treated differently. Thus this seems like a valid tagging discussion that should happen at a different level, no? Sorry, we left the ML by accident. I guess the difference is that a silo is a subpart of a more prominent feature (facility, farm, plant, quarry, etc). Compared to your post office example, it's like saying the near postbox or telephon should have the name of the post office because the post office is not mapped at the moment. Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=silo)
I'm mostly saying that since there is a proposal process, it is better to discuss this as a proposal, rather than jump straight to publishing. -- Is man_made=silo any different in this respect from other features? Current practice does not insist that areas be drawn around prominent named buildings, communication towers, or bridges, even though those facilities exist on a larger parcel of land. If all I can see is there's a large silo with a name on it, that's what I can confidently map. In the American west silos are often the most prominent landmark, and they are often known by name. Of course anyone is welcome to come along and map in more detail, locating the facility fence lines, finding the website... and then tagging the whole facility makes more sense. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=silo)
Unless there is a objection, I'd like to bring to quick vote this already discussed proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsilo http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Silo This tag has 20,000+ uses, and appears well established. Giving is a proper wiki page makes editor integration nicer. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=silo)
My understanding is that tags in general use don't need a vote. Assuming that's correct, I've updated the man_made=silo page with info from the proposal. (Although from taginfo, few existing silos have additional tags) Brad On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Unless there is a objection, I'd like to bring to quick vote this already discussed proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsilo http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Silo This tag has 20,000+ uses, and appears well established. Giving is a proper wiki page makes editor integration nicer. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=silo)
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that tags in general use don't need a vote. I see one use of silo=* in taginfo which is not something I would call general use... The tags name=name of the facility and operator shouldn't go on the silos themselves but on the polygon surrounding the whole facility. Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
