[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Piste:type=connection

2018-01-24 Thread Helge Fahrnberger
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Piste:type%3Dconnection

Hi,

I'd like to start voting on Piste:type=connection, which is needed for
walk-overs and other types of connections between lifts. The tag is already
in use 102 times in four alpine countries.

It is essential for ski routing applications to function.

Helge
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Piste:type=connection

2018-01-24 Thread marc marc
Hello,

Le 24. 01. 18 à 10:42, Helge Fahrnberger a écrit :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Piste:type%3Dconnection
> I'd like to start voting

you forget to make a request for comment :)
end end date look wrong (January <> February)
my comment : the definition is strange.
"mainly for routing purposes" is not a definition, it's a usecase.
Maybe definition should be like :
"ways taken by skiers to go from one lift to another or
from one lift to another at the beginning of the piste."

Regards,
Marc
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Piste:type=connection

2018-01-24 Thread Helge Fahrnberger
Hi Marc,

I did send an RFC, over a year ago:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2016-September/030270.html

Caused some positive comments on the discussion page and quite some people
actually using the tag.

As for the text on the proposal page itself: I intended it for the audience
here. I agree that the tag description for a general mappers' audience
needs to be different. (Not very familiar with the proposal habits.) I
promise to draft a better tag page after voting ;-)

Helge


>marc marc marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com wrote:
>Wed Jan 24 10:04:39 UTC 2018
>
>Hello,
>
>Le 24. 01. 18 à 10:42, Helge Fahrnberger a écrit :
>>
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Piste:type%3Dconnection
>> I'd like to start voting
>
>you forget to make a request for comment :)
>end end date look wrong (January <> February)
>my comment : the definition is strange.
>"mainly for routing purposes" is not a definition, it's a usecase.
>Maybe definition should be like :
>"ways taken by skiers to go from one lift to another or
>from one lift to another at the beginning of the piste."
>
>Regards,
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Piste:type=connection

2018-01-25 Thread Warin

On 25-Jan-18 05:53 AM, Helge Fahrnberger wrote:

Hi Marc,

I did send an RFC, over a year ago: 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2016-September/030270.html


Caused some positive comments on the discussion page and quite some 
people actually using the tag.


As for the text on the proposal page itself: I intended it for the 
audience here. I agree that the tag description for a general mappers' 
audience needs to be different. (Not very familiar with the proposal 
habits.) I promise to draft a better tag page after voting ;-)


If you change the tag .. then what are 'we' voting on?
Get the proposal well defined .. it has been in 'comments' for years .. 
so why was it not improved during that time?

There were no changes from September 2016 to Jan 2018.

Looks to me like not many people here have an interest in this.
But in principle - if voted as an 'approved' tag then there should be no 
basic changes to the meanings.
So the description should be very good before voting is requested, not 
changed afterwards to something the voters have no say in.
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