Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear Markus,

Done. I had a bit of hesitation there ... copying over the whole proposal
.. but now I see how the permanent link works to the last version of the
voted proposal.

Thank you for your help with this step.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 20:46, Markus Peloso  wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> For step 3.
>
> Replace the entire content/source from the «Proposed features/Free Water»
> with this snippet:
>
> «
>
> {{Approved feature link|link=Key:drinking_water:refill|name=Free Water}}
>
> {{Archived proposal|archive_id=1962961}}
>
> »
>
> The archive_id comes from the «View history» page by clicking the last /
> newest entry and coping the value from the oldid parameter in the url.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Markus
>
>
>
> *Von: *European Water Project 
> *Gesendet: *Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:15
> *An: *Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> 
> *Betreff: *Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting -
> drinking_water:refill_scheme
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going
> to amend the final voted tag pair to :
>
>
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
>
>
> Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I
> would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.
>
>
>
> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was
> voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water
>
>
>
> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second
> one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page
> ?)
>
>
>
> 3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can
> come after completion of 1 + 2.
>
> ·  Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
> the feature template.
>
> ·  Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using 
> Template:Approved
> feature link
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
>
> ·  Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.
>
>
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
>
>
> instead of :
>
>
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;
>
>
>
> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
> change ?  I don't mind.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Again,
>
>
>
> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is
> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and
> use the word network.
>
>
>
> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network"
> clearer than "scheme".
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to
> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
> evident so that the tag is verifiable.
>
>
>
> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which
> is common with other ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Markus Peloso]

Hello

For step 3.
Replace the entire content/source from the «Proposed features/Free Water» with 
this snippet:
«
{{Approved feature link|link=Key:drinking_water:refill|name=Free Water}}
{{Archived proposal|archive_id=1962961}}
»
The archive_id comes from the «View history» page by clicking the last / newest 
entry and coping the value from the oldid parameter in the url.

Best regards,

Markus

Von: European Water Project<mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:15
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

Hello,

Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going to 
amend the final voted tag pair to :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I would 
like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.

1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted 
?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water

2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second one 
for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page ?)

3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come 
after completion of 1 + 2.
*  Add a link back to the proposal by using the statuslink parameter of the 
feature template.
*  Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using 
Template:Approved feature 
link<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
*  Archive the proposal using Template:Archived 
proposal<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.

Best regards,

Stuart


On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the tag 
pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

instead of :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;

Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small change 
?  I don't mind.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Again,

In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is worth 
discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and use the 
word network.

This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace 
convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network" 
clearer than "scheme".

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,

The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill water 
bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent passes with 13 
positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to be tagged 
drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is evident so that 
the tag is verifiable.

The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear preference 
for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which is common with 
other tags.

· 
drinking_water:refill<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill=edit=1>=yes<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes=edit=1>/drinking_water:refill<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill=edit=1>=no<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno=edit=1>
· 
drinking_water:refill_scheme<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme=edit=1>=scheme-name<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name=edit=1>1;
 
scheme-name<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name=edit=1>2;scheme-name3;

Can someone please guide me on next steps ?

· Create the permanent feature description page:
· A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map 
features 
template<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template> 
(dependi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Joseph Eisenberg]

> What is the difference between a closed way and an area ?

A closed way is the most common method of drawing an area. The other common
type of area is a multipolygon relation. Shops and cafes and similar
features are mapped as areas (or nodes)

In the wiki, “can be used in ways” means linear ways which are not areas:
for example, rivers, roads, paths, fences, etc.

-Joseph Eisenberg
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear All,

The wiki for key:drinking_water:refill has been created and has had already
it's first improvements ! Thanks Joseph.

Joseph, I noticed you removed "ways" as a preferred database entry to be
tagged. What is the difference between a closed way and an area ?

The three buildings which are currently tagged as drinking_water:refill =
yes are currently returned by the overpass query on
 way["drinking_water:refill"="yes"] (` +  boxString  +`);

_

Also, we just launched the phase 2 of our 100% open data project.

Anyone who wants stickers for cafés for this anti-plastic program, please
send me an email direct with your address and the number of stickers you
want.

See the post below for those who have FB.
https://www.facebook.com/EuropeanWaterProject/posts/145583536923046

Best regards,

Stuart

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 02:06, Joseph Eisenberg 
wrote:

> > 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what
> was voted ?
>
> That's not necessary. It's fine to keep the proposal name as it is.
>
> > 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ?
>
> Login to the wiki, then go to
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water:refill and
> click "create this page".
>
> Or you can use this direct link:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill=edit
>
> > should I create a second one for "drinking_water:refill:network"
>
> You can include it on the main tag page if that is easier.
>
> But if you have time it is fine to make a specific page:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill:network=edit
>
> To make the page, try copying the source text from a similar property
> page, and pasting it,
>
> For example copy the text from:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water=edit
>
> Then edit it to match your new proposal.
>
> - Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On 2/26/20, European Water Project  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going
> > to amend the final voted tag pair to :
> >
> > drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> > drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
> >
> > Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I
> > would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.
> >
> > 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was
> > voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first
> interactions.
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water
> >
> > 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second
> > one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page
> > ?)
> >
> > 3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can
> come
> > after completion of 1 + 2.
> > - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
> > the feature template.
> > - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using
> > Template:Approved
> > feature link
> > .
> > - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
> > .
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <
> > europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
> >> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.
> >>
> >> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> >> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
> >>
> >>
> >> instead of :
> >>
> >> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> >> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;
> >>
> >> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
> >> change ?  I don't mind.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
> >> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Again,
> >>>
> >>> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it
> >>> is
> >>> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace
> >>> and
> >>> use the word network.
> >>>
> >>> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
> >>>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
> >>> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word
> >>> "network"
> >>> clearer than "scheme".
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Stuart
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
> >>> 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Joseph Eisenberg]

> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was 
> voted ?

That's not necessary. It's fine to keep the proposal name as it is.

> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ?

Login to the wiki, then go to
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water:refill and
click "create this page".

Or you can use this direct link:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill=edit

> should I create a second one for "drinking_water:refill:network"

You can include it on the main tag page if that is easier.

But if you have time it is fine to make a specific page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill:network=edit

To make the page, try copying the source text from a similar property
page, and pasting it,

For example copy the text from:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water=edit

Then edit it to match your new proposal.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 2/26/20, European Water Project  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going
> to amend the final voted tag pair to :
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
> Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I
> would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.
>
> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was
> voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water
>
> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second
> one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page
> ?)
>
> 3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come
> after completion of 1 + 2.
> - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
> the feature template.
> - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using
> Template:Approved
> feature link
> .
> - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
> .
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
>> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.
>>
>> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>>
>>
>> instead of :
>>
>> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;
>>
>> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
>> change ?  I don't mind.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Again,
>>>
>>> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it
>>> is
>>> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace
>>> and
>>> use the word network.
>>>
>>> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
>>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
>>> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word
>>> "network"
>>> clearer than "scheme".
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
>>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Dear All,

 The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
 water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
 passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that
 to
 be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
 evident so that the tag is verifiable.

 The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
 preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons -
 which
 is common with other tags.


- drinking_water:refill

 
=yes

 
/drinking_water:refill

 
=no

 
- drinking_water:refill_scheme

 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hello,

Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going
to amend the final voted tag pair to :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I
would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.

1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was
voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water

2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second
one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page ?)

3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come
after completion of 1 + 2.
- Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
the feature template.
- Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using
Template:Approved
feature link
.
- Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
.

Best regards,

Stuart


On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
> instead of :
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;
>
> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
> change ?  I don't mind.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Again,
>>
>> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is
>> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and
>> use the word network.
>>
>> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
>> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network"
>> clearer than "scheme".
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
>>> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
>>> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to
>>> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
>>> evident so that the tag is verifiable.
>>>
>>> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
>>> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which
>>> is common with other tags.
>>>
>>>
>>>- drinking_water:refill
>>>
>>> 
>>>=yes
>>>
>>> 
>>>/drinking_water:refill
>>>
>>> 
>>>=no
>>>
>>> 
>>>- drinking_water:refill_scheme
>>>
>>> 
>>>=scheme-name
>>>
>>> 
>>>1; scheme-name
>>>
>>> 
>>>2;scheme-name3;
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone please guide me on next steps ?
>>>
>>>
>>>- Create the permanent feature description page:
>>>
>>>
>>>- A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map 
>>> features
>>>template
>>> 
>>> (depending
>>>on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow
>>>the standard set by the Key:highway
>>> key and its values.
>>>- Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter
>>>of the feature template.
>>>- Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page
>>>using Template:Approved feature link
>>>.
>>>   

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hello,

As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

instead of :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;

Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
change ?  I don't mind.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Again,
>
> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is
> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and
> use the word network.
>
> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network"
> clearer than "scheme".
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
>> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
>> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to
>> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
>> evident so that the tag is verifiable.
>>
>> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
>> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which
>> is common with other tags.
>>
>>
>>- drinking_water:refill
>>
>> 
>>=yes
>>
>> 
>>/drinking_water:refill
>>
>> 
>>=no
>>
>> 
>>- drinking_water:refill_scheme
>>
>> 
>>=scheme-name
>>
>> 
>>1; scheme-name
>>
>> 
>>2;scheme-name3;
>>
>>
>> Can someone please guide me on next steps ?
>>
>>
>>- Create the permanent feature description page:
>>
>>
>>- A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map 
>> features
>>template
>> 
>> (depending
>>on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow
>>the standard set by the Key:highway
>> key and its values.
>>- Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter
>>of the feature template.
>>- Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using 
>> Template:Approved
>>feature link
>>.
>>- Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
>>.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joseph,
>>>
>>> Understood.
>>>
>>> I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote
>>> finishes tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <
>>> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?

 Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.

 - Joseph Eisenberg

 On 2/17/20, European Water Project 
 wrote:
 > Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive
 support ..
 > 10 + and 2 Abs
 >
 > There are two comments which are worth noting :
 >
 > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited
 scheme
 > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess
 there
 > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote
 to
 > take this into consideration.
 >
 > 2. Kovposch
 > <
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch=edit=1
 >
 > suggested
 > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to
 refill:network.
 > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hi Again,

In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is
worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and
use the word network.

This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network"
clearer than "scheme".

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to
> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
> evident so that the tag is verifiable.
>
> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which
> is common with other tags.
>
>
>- drinking_water:refill
>
> 
>=yes
>
> 
>/drinking_water:refill
>
> 
>=no
>
> 
>- drinking_water:refill_scheme
>
> 
>=scheme-name
>
> 
>1; scheme-name
>
> 
>2;scheme-name3;
>
>
> Can someone please guide me on next steps ?
>
>
>- Create the permanent feature description page:
>
>
>- A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map 
> features
>template
> (depending
>on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow
>the standard set by the Key:highway
> key and its values.
>- Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter
>of the feature template.
>- Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using 
> Template:Approved
>feature link
>.
>- Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
>.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> Understood.
>>
>> I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote
>> finishes tomorrow.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <
>> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?
>>>
>>> Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.
>>>
>>> - Joseph Eisenberg
>>>
>>> On 2/17/20, European Water Project 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive support
>>> ..
>>> > 10 + and 2 Abs
>>> >
>>> > There are two comments which are worth noting :
>>> >
>>> > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited
>>> scheme
>>> > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess
>>> there
>>> > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote
>>> to
>>> > take this into consideration.
>>> >
>>> > 2. Kovposch
>>> > <
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch=edit=1
>>> >
>>> > suggested
>>> > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.
>>> > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its
>>> more
>>> > generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
>>> >
>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
>>> > change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> >
>>> > Stuart
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
>>> > europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Martin,
>>> >>
>>> >> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
>>> >> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Stuart
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
>>> >> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear All,

The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to
be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
evident so that the tag is verifiable.

The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which
is common with other tags.


   - drinking_water:refill
   

   =yes
   

   /drinking_water:refill
   

   =no
   

   - drinking_water:refill_scheme
   

   =scheme-name
   

   1; scheme-name
   

   2;scheme-name3;


Can someone please guide me on next steps ?


   - Create the permanent feature description page:


   - A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map features
   template 
(depending
   on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow
   the standard set by the Key:highway
    key and its values.
   - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
   the feature template.
   - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page
using Template:Approved
   feature link
   .
   - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
   .


Best regards,

Stuart

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> Understood.
>
> I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote
> finishes tomorrow.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?
>>
>> Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.
>>
>> - Joseph Eisenberg
>>
>> On 2/17/20, European Water Project 
>> wrote:
>> > Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive support
>> ..
>> > 10 + and 2 Abs
>> >
>> > There are two comments which are worth noting :
>> >
>> > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme
>> > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess
>> there
>> > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to
>> > take this into consideration.
>> >
>> > 2. Kovposch
>> > <
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch=edit=1
>> >
>> > suggested
>> > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.
>> > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more
>> > generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
>> >
>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
>> > change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Stuart
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
>> > europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Martin,
>> >>
>> >> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
>> >> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Stuart
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
>> >>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
>> >>>
>>  I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
>>  whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie
>>  paying
>>  or non-paying customer).
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a
>> >>> "drinking
>> >>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
>> >>> Like in the linked photo above:
>> >>>
>> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> Martin
>> >>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hi Joseph,

Understood.

I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote
finishes tomorrow.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg 
wrote:

> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?
>
> Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.
>
> - Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On 2/17/20, European Water Project  wrote:
> > Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive support ..
> > 10 + and 2 Abs
> >
> > There are two comments which are worth noting :
> >
> > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme
> > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess
> there
> > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to
> > take this into consideration.
> >
> > 2. Kovposch
> > <
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch=edit=1
> >
> > suggested
> > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.
> > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more
> > generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
> >
> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
> > change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
> > europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Martin,
> >>
> >> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
> >> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
> >>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
>  I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
>  whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie
>  paying
>  or non-paying customer).
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a
> >>> "drinking
> >>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
> >>> Like in the linked photo above:
> >>>
> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Martin
> >>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Joseph Eisenberg]

> For 2) What is the best way to proceed?

Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 2/17/20, European Water Project  wrote:
> Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive support ..
> 10 + and 2 Abs
>
> There are two comments which are worth noting :
>
> 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme
> names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess there
> are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to
> take this into consideration.
>
> 2. Kovposch
> 
> suggested
> making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.
> Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more
> generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
>
> For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
> change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
>> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
>>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
 whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie
 paying
 or non-paying customer).

>>>
>>>
>>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a
>>> "drinking
>>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
>>> Like in the linked photo above:
>>> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Martin
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive support ..
10 + and 2 Abs

There are two comments which are worth noting :

1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme
names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess there
are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to
take this into consideration.

2. Kovposch

suggested
making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.
Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more
generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...

For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.

Best regards,

Stuart



On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie paying
>>> or non-paying customer).
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a "drinking
>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
>> Like in the linked photo above:
>> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
>>
>> Cheers
>> Martin
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hi Jake,

I am happy to follow the consensus on how to tag a café which belongs to
multiple schemes, but am hesitant in promoting a tag scheme which will not
be properly maintained.

drinking_water:refill_scheme=refillscheme1;refillescheme2;refillscheme3 clearly
has more information than just multiple, but will enough people be
motivated to maintain high accuracy of the data given that all the schemes
are essentially equivalent?   European Water Project will include on the
App any establishment which belongs to one or more of the relevant schemes,
including our own, or is an "independent".

To avoid ambiguity and as stated in the proposal, an establishment should
only be tagged as offering water refills if there is a visible sticker
showing that it belongs to a water refill scheme or a has a displayed sign
stating "Free Water Bottle Refills" (or equivalent).

Best regards,

Stuart

On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 09:33, Jake Edmonds via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi Stuart,
> Can you clarify drinking_water:refill_scheme=multiple? I assume it should
> look like
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=refillscheme1;refillescheme2;refillscheme3
> using the semicolon to separate each value?
>
>
> Thanks
> Jake
>
> On 4 Feb 2020, at 09:06, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi again,
>
> Also, I forgot to mention that I put the results from the previous vote on
> the talk page ..
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 08:59, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have started the voting period on the revised proposal after an
>> additional one week RFC period.
>>
>> The proposal is for how to best tag cafés, bars, restaurants, kiosks,
>> hotels, etc which belong to a water bottle refill scheme offering free
>> bottle water refill to anyone - whether or not a paying customer.
>>
>> drinking_water:refill=  ; and
>>
>> drinking_water:refill_scheme=
>>
>> Here is a link to the proposal :
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water
>>
>>
>> Here is a link to vote
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=12#Voting
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your consideration,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Jake Edmonds via Tagging]

Hi Stuart, 
Can you clarify drinking_water:refill_scheme=multiple? I assume it should look 
like drinking_water:refill_scheme=refillscheme1;refillescheme2;refillscheme3 
using the semicolon to separate each value?


Thanks
Jake

> On 4 Feb 2020, at 09:06, European Water Project 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> Also, I forgot to mention that I put the results from the previous vote on 
> the talk page .. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Stuart 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 08:59, European Water Project 
> mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I have started the voting period on the revised proposal after an additional 
> one week RFC period. 
> 
> The proposal is for how to best tag cafés, bars, restaurants, kiosks, hotels, 
> etc which belong to a water bottle refill scheme offering free bottle water 
> refill to anyone - whether or not a paying customer. 
> 
> drinking_water:refill=  ; and
> 
> drinking_water:refill_scheme= 
> 
> Here is a link to the proposal :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water 
> 
> 
> 
> Here is a link to vote
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=12#Voting
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Thank you for your consideration,
> 
> Stuart 
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hi again,

Also, I forgot to mention that I put the results from the previous vote on
the talk page ..

Best regards,

Stuart

On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 08:59, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I have started the voting period on the revised proposal after an
> additional one week RFC period.
>
> The proposal is for how to best tag cafés, bars, restaurants, kiosks,
> hotels, etc which belong to a water bottle refill scheme offering free
> bottle water refill to anyone - whether or not a paying customer.
>
> drinking_water:refill=  ; and
>
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=
>
> Here is a link to the proposal :
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water
>
>
> Here is a link to vote
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=12#Voting
>
>
> Thank you for your consideration,
>
> Stuart
>
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear All,

I have started the voting period on the revised proposal after an
additional one week RFC period.

The proposal is for how to best tag cafés, bars, restaurants, kiosks,
hotels, etc which belong to a water bottle refill scheme offering free
bottle water refill to anyone - whether or not a paying customer.

drinking_water:refill=  ; and

drinking_water:refill_scheme=

Here is a link to the proposal :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water


Here is a link to vote
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=12#Voting


Thank you for your consideration,

Stuart

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hi Martin,

If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

>
>
> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie paying
>> or non-paying customer).
>>
>
>
> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a "drinking
> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
> Like in the linked photo above:
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:

> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map whether
> a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie paying or
> non-paying customer).
>


I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a "drinking
water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
Like in the linked photo above:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 14:59 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:

> Hello Martin,
>
> A refill scheme is a cafe, bar, restaurant, club, hotel participating in
> one of the many refill schemes where they agree to fill up anybody's water
> bottle for free without any requirement to consume on the premises.Self
> serve is not a requirement.  A sticker or sign must be shown for an
> establishment to be tagged as part of the refill scheme and just because a
> barman fills up your bottle, one shouldn't tag a bar as part of a refill
> scheme. Nor should an establishment be tagged as part of a refill scheme if
> you need to fill your bottle up in the bathroom.
>


I see. Then I am not enthusiastic about the proposed tag, because it
requires from any business to be part of a scheme in order to be mappable
as providing free water bottle refills. Someone who simply provides it,
could not be tagged, right?

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Philip Barnes]

On Monday, 27 January 2020, Thibault Molleman wrote:
> " A restaurant where the server fills up your bottle based on his or her
> humor should not be tagged as part of the refill scheme. "
> Maybe add a line to clarify that the sign requirement is specifically
> regarding schemes. A place doesn't need a sign just to have the
> "drinking_water:refill=yes" tag.
> (just so it's more clear on the page)

It needs a sign to indicate, so that it is verifiable. Schemes provide a sign, 
or a business can make its own 

Its not something that can be mapped by asking. They may say yes to you but no 
to someone else, or a different member of staff may not be so helpful.

Phil (trigpoint)
> 
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:50, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Thank you for your suggestion.
> >
> > I have added links in a separate section and made the criteria in the
> > proposal section stand out more clearly.
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:34, Paul Allen  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 15:27, European Water Project <
> >> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Andy suggests :
> >>>
> >>> "drinking_water:refill=yes" and
> >>> "drinking_water:refill_scheme=[scheme-name]"
> >>>
> >>> As long as two of the options for "scheme-name" can be "multiple" or
> >>> "yes", this alternative two tagging method seems more KISS than the one
> >>> being currently voted on-
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's better because it allows mapping places offering free refills that
> >> aren't part of
> >> a scheme (as long as the place has a sign stating it offers free refills).
> >>
> >> If you're rejigging the proposal anyway, how about providing links to the
> >> schemes
> >> you mention and also criteria for mapping (the main one being that there
> >> is a sign)?
> >>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear Thibault,

I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map whether
a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie paying or
non-paying customer).

*Best regards,*

*Stuart *

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:52, Thibault Molleman 
wrote:

> " A restaurant where the server fills up your bottle based on his or her
> humor should not be tagged as part of the refill scheme. "
> Maybe add a line to clarify that the sign requirement is specifically
> regarding schemes. A place doesn't need a sign just to have the
> "drinking_water:refill=yes" tag.
> (just so it's more clear on the page)
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:50, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Thank you for your suggestion.
>>
>> I have added links in a separate section and made the criteria in the
>> proposal section stand out more clearly.
>>
>> best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:34, Paul Allen  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 15:27, European Water Project <
>>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

 Andy suggests :

 "drinking_water:refill=yes" and
 "drinking_water:refill_scheme=[scheme-name]"

 As long as two of the options for "scheme-name" can be "multiple" or
 "yes", this alternative two tagging method seems more KISS than the one
 being currently voted on-

>>>
>>> It's better because it allows mapping places offering free refills that
>>> aren't part of
>>> a scheme (as long as the place has a sign stating it offers free
>>> refills).
>>>
>>> If you're rejigging the proposal anyway, how about providing links to
>>> the schemes
>>> you mention and also criteria for mapping (the main one being that there
>>> is a sign)?
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Thibault Molleman]

" A restaurant where the server fills up your bottle based on his or her
humor should not be tagged as part of the refill scheme. "
Maybe add a line to clarify that the sign requirement is specifically
regarding schemes. A place doesn't need a sign just to have the
"drinking_water:refill=yes" tag.
(just so it's more clear on the page)

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:50, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Thank you for your suggestion.
>
> I have added links in a separate section and made the criteria in the
> proposal section stand out more clearly.
>
> best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:34, Paul Allen  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 15:27, European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Andy suggests :
>>>
>>> "drinking_water:refill=yes" and
>>> "drinking_water:refill_scheme=[scheme-name]"
>>>
>>> As long as two of the options for "scheme-name" can be "multiple" or
>>> "yes", this alternative two tagging method seems more KISS than the one
>>> being currently voted on-
>>>
>>
>> It's better because it allows mapping places offering free refills that
>> aren't part of
>> a scheme (as long as the place has a sign stating it offers free refills).
>>
>> If you're rejigging the proposal anyway, how about providing links to the
>> schemes
>> you mention and also criteria for mapping (the main one being that there
>> is a sign)?
>>
>> --
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your suggestion.

I have added links in a separate section and made the criteria in the
proposal section stand out more clearly.

best regards,

Stuart

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 16:34, Paul Allen  wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 15:27, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Andy suggests :
>>
>> "drinking_water:refill=yes" and
>> "drinking_water:refill_scheme=[scheme-name]"
>>
>> As long as two of the options for "scheme-name" can be "multiple" or
>> "yes", this alternative two tagging method seems more KISS than the one
>> being currently voted on-
>>
>
> It's better because it allows mapping places offering free refills that
> aren't part of
> a scheme (as long as the place has a sign stating it offers free refills).
>
> If you're rejigging the proposal anyway, how about providing links to the
> schemes
> you mention and also criteria for mapping (the main one being that there
> is a sign)?
>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Paul Allen]

On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 15:27, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Andy suggests :
>
> "drinking_water:refill=yes" and
> "drinking_water:refill_scheme=[scheme-name]"
>
> As long as two of the options for "scheme-name" can be "multiple" or
> "yes", this alternative two tagging method seems more KISS than the one
> being currently voted on-
>

It's better because it allows mapping places offering free refills that
aren't part of
a scheme (as long as the place has a sign stating it offers free refills).

If you're rejigging the proposal anyway, how about providing links to the
schemes
you mention and also criteria for mapping (the main one being that there is
a sign)?

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear All,

A comment by Andy Mabbett
 was made that it
would be cleaner and less confusing to have a simpler main tag. I think he
is right.

I know we just started voting, but given this suggestion which I prefer to
the one we are voting on currently, I have put the proposal back to the RFC
stage for another week.

Andy suggests :

"drinking_water:refill=yes" and "drinking_water:refill_scheme=[scheme-name]"


As long as two of the options for "scheme-name" can be "multiple" or "yes",
this alternative two tagging method seems more KISS than the one being
currently voted on-

Best regards,

Stuart



On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 14:57, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Martin,
>
> A refill scheme is a cafe, bar, restaurant, club, hotel participating in
> one of the many refill schemes where they agree to fill up anybody's water
> bottle for free without any requirement to consume on the premises.Self
> serve is not a requirement.  A sticker or sign must be shown for an
> establishment to be tagged as part of the refill scheme and just because a
> barman fills up your bottle, one shouldn't tag a bar as part of a refill
> scheme. Nor should an establishment be tagged as part of a refill scheme if
> you need to fill your bottle up in the bathroom.
>
>   There are  more small ones in the US and in specific European cities,
> like Lucerne, Lausanne, and Berkeley. European Water Project will be
> contributing to the creation of a 100% open data collaborative database of
> establishments participating in the refill revolution.
>
> best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> Here is a list of some of the participating schemes globally.
>
>
>- Australia – ChooseTap 
>- Bulgaria – Zero Waste Sofia 
>- Cambodia – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
>
>- Canada – BlueW.org ; Tap
>
>- Chile – Refill  (Santiago de Chile only)
>- Europe (public fountains) – Mapy.cz
>
> 
>- France – Refill  / EU Touring
>(Paris
>only)
>- Germany – Refill Deutschland 
>- Greece –Refill 
>- Hongkong – Water for Free 
>- India – BluHop  
>- Indonesia – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
>
>- Ireland – Refill Ireland
>
> 
>- Italy – Refill  / Refill Elba
>
> 
>  (Elba
>island only)
>- Japan – MyMizu 
>- Laos – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
>
>- Luxemborg –Refill 
>- Switzerland – FILL IT UP
>
> 
>- The Netherlands – Refill  / Drinkwaterkaart
> / Publiek Water
>
>- New Zealand – RefillNZ 
>- Thailand – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
>
>- U.K. – Refill 
>- United States – Tap 
>- Vietnam – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
>
>- Worldwide – Closca 
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Martin Koppenhoefer 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Dear Warin,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email, I have added a voting section and put my vote
>>> in :)  I appreciate your advice.
>>>
>>> We debated for a week before I wrote the RFC proposal and I have
>>> received 2 positive thumbs up via email, so I therefore have just extended
>>> the voting period.  ..  but of course, I will extend the RFC period if
>>> needed if alternatives are proposed.
>>>
>>> Here is the link to the overal proposal :
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water
>>>
>>>
>>> And an amended link with a link directly to the voting section :
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=10#Voting
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your consideration,
>>>
>>

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Hello Martin,

A refill scheme is a cafe, bar, restaurant, club, hotel participating in
one of the many refill schemes where they agree to fill up anybody's water
bottle for free without any requirement to consume on the premises.Self
serve is not a requirement.  A sticker or sign must be shown for an
establishment to be tagged as part of the refill scheme and just because a
barman fills up your bottle, one shouldn't tag a bar as part of a refill
scheme. Nor should an establishment be tagged as part of a refill scheme if
you need to fill your bottle up in the bathroom.

  There are  more small ones in the US and in specific European cities,
like Lucerne, Lausanne, and Berkeley. European Water Project will be
contributing to the creation of a 100% open data collaborative database of
establishments participating in the refill revolution.

best regards,

Stuart

Here is a list of some of the participating schemes globally.


   - Australia – ChooseTap 
   - Bulgaria – Zero Waste Sofia 
   - Cambodia – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
   
   - Canada – BlueW.org ; Tap 
   - Chile – Refill  (Santiago de Chile only)
   - Europe (public fountains) – Mapy.cz
   

   - France – Refill  / EU Touring
   (Paris
   only)
   - Germany – Refill Deutschland 
   - Greece –Refill 
   - Hongkong – Water for Free 
   - India – BluHop  
   - Indonesia – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
   
   - Ireland – Refill Ireland
   

   - Italy – Refill  / Refill Elba
   

(Elba
   island only)
   - Japan – MyMizu 
   - Laos – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
   
   - Luxemborg –Refill 
   - Switzerland – FILL IT UP
   

   - The Netherlands – Refill  / Drinkwaterkaart
    / Publiek Water
   
   - New Zealand – RefillNZ 
   - Thailand – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
   
   - U.K. – Refill 
   - United States – Tap 
   - Vietnam – Refill Asia  / RefillMyBottle
   
   - Worldwide – Closca 


On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

>
>
> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear Warin,
>>
>> Thank you for your email, I have added a voting section and put my vote
>> in :)  I appreciate your advice.
>>
>> We debated for a week before I wrote the RFC proposal and I have received
>> 2 positive thumbs up via email, so I therefore have just extended the
>> voting period.  ..  but of course, I will extend the RFC period if
>> needed if alternatives are proposed.
>>
>> Here is the link to the overal proposal :
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water
>>
>>
>> And an amended link with a link directly to the voting section :
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=10#Voting
>>
>>
>> Thank you all for your consideration,
>>
>
>
> I am not a native speaker and not completely sure about the meaning of the
> term "refill scheme". Would you say it applies to an icecream parlour (self
> service, seats and takeaway) that has a water tap at a pillar in the middle
> of the room, publicly accessible for everyone (supposedly while the
> intention is probably mainly for customers, realistically I would say
> "permissive")?
>
> Here's a picture:
> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:

> Dear Warin,
>
> Thank you for your email, I have added a voting section and put my vote in
> :)  I appreciate your advice.
>
> We debated for a week before I wrote the RFC proposal and I have received
> 2 positive thumbs up via email, so I therefore have just extended the
> voting period.  ..  but of course, I will extend the RFC period if
> needed if alternatives are proposed.
>
> Here is the link to the overal proposal :
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water
>
>
> And an amended link with a link directly to the voting section :
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=10#Voting
>
>
> Thank you all for your consideration,
>


I am not a native speaker and not completely sure about the meaning of the
term "refill scheme". Would you say it applies to an icecream parlour (self
service, seats and takeaway) that has a water tap at a pillar in the middle
of the room, publicly accessible for everyone (supposedly while the
intention is probably mainly for customers, realistically I would say
"permissive")?

Here's a picture:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear Warin,

Thank you for your email, I have added a voting section and put my vote in
:)  I appreciate your advice.

We debated for a week before I wrote the RFC proposal and I have received 2
positive thumbs up via email, so I therefore have just extended the voting
period.  ..  but of course, I will extend the RFC period if needed if
alternatives are proposed.

Here is the link to the overal proposal :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water


And an amended link with a link directly to the voting section :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit=10#Voting


Thank you all for your consideration,

Stuart


On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 09:35, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The minimum time for comments is 2 weeks that is 14 days, not the 10 given
> so far. Suggest you wait a little longer.
>
> The minimum time for voting is 2 weeks that is 14 days,you may run voting
> longer than that if you desire.
>
> The link is wrong.
> Most use
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water
>
> so they can read the present proposal. then they go to ?? There is no
> voting section presently ...
> You need to do a tidy up?
>
>
>
> On 27/1/20 6:48 pm, European Water Project wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> We have actively debated over the past 11 days the best manner to tag an
> establishment which offers free water bottle refills as part of an
> established scheme.
>
> Thank you all for your comments and input during this tumultuous process.
>
> After much deliberation, the latest proposal
> "drinking_water:refill_scheme = " seems to have enough support to
> merit being put to a vote.
>
> Please find below the proposal for drinking_water:refill_scheme being
> which is being put to vote.
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 15:29, Markus Peloso  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that. Now it's clear for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 from me for drinking_water:refill_scheme
>>
>>
>>
>> I found three national programs (with maps) that I think are related to
>> this tag.
>>
>> - https://refill.org.uk/refill-schemes/
>>
>> - https://refill-deutschland.de/
>>
>> - http://www.fillitup.ch/karte.html
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von: *European Water Project 
>> *Gesendet: *Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 08:02
>> *An: *Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>> 
>> *Betreff: *Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have amended the proposal with the tag and a simplified example.
>>
>>
>>
>> The proposal is definitely more KISS.
>>
>>
>>
>> drinking_water:refill_scheme = 
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 14:21, Philip Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 22 January 2020, European Water Project wrote:
>> > Hi Paul et. al,
>> >
>> > I would also be very supportive of this straightforward approach which
>> > would address many of the concerns regarding an over complicated tagging
>> > scheme covering cases that are often mandated by local legislation.
>> >
>> > One clean solution could be the following or something similar.
>> >
>> > drinking_water:refill_scheme=
>> >
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Paul's response did clear up my reservations on the idea.
>>
>> The webpage makes it clear there is a sticker that is verifiable without
>> going in a asking. Not sure if that was mentioned before or if I had simply
>> missed it.
>>
>> This meets the gold osm standard of Verifable.
>>
>> Now I know there is something to look out for I can start looking when
>> I'm out.
>>
>> Its a shame the website doesn't have location, I do not use Google play,
>> but I guess thats why you want to put them into OSM.
>>
>> As its a UK scheme, discussion on the talk-gb list would be more focussed
>> and you will reach more mappers who are able to survey and contribute.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Phil  (trigpoint)
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Warin]

The minimum time for comments is 2 weeks that is 14 days, not the 10 
given so far. Suggest you wait a little longer.


The minimum time for voting is 2 weeks that is 14 days,you may run 
voting longer than that if you desire.


The link is wrong.
Most use
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water

so they can read the present proposal. then they go to ?? There is no 
voting section presently ...

You need to do a tidy up?



On 27/1/20 6:48 pm, European Water Project wrote:

Dear All,

We have actively debated over the past 11 days the best manner to tag 
an establishment which offers free water bottle refills as part of an 
established scheme.


Thank you all for your comments and input during this tumultuous process.

After much deliberation, the latest proposal 
"drinking_water:refill_scheme = " seems to have enough support 
to merit being put to a vote.


Please find below the proposal for drinking_water:refill_scheme being 
which is being put to vote.


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit 




Best regards,

Stuart





On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 15:29, Markus Peloso > wrote:


Thanks for that. Now it's clear for me.

+1 from me for drinking_water:refill_scheme

I found three national programs (with maps) that I think are
related to this tag.

- https://refill.org.uk/refill-schemes/

- https://refill-deutschland.de/

- http://www.fillitup.ch/karte.html

*Von: *European Water Project 
*Gesendet: *Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 08:02
*An: *Tag discussion, strategy and related tools

*Betreff: *Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

Dear All,

I have amended the proposal with the tag and a simplified example.

The proposal is definitely more KISS.

drinking_water:refill_scheme = 

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 14:21, Philip Barnes mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk>> wrote:



On Wednesday, 22 January 2020, European Water Project wrote:
> Hi Paul et. al,
>
> I would also be very supportive of this straightforward approach
which
> would address many of the concerns regarding an over complicated
tagging
> scheme covering cases that are often mandated by local legislation.
>
> One clean solution could be the following or something similar.
>
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=
>

Thank you.

Paul's response did clear up my reservations on the idea.

The webpage makes it clear there is a sticker that is verifiable
without going in a asking. Not sure if that was mentioned before
or if I had simply missed it.

This meets the gold osm standard of Verifable.

Now I know there is something to look out for I can start looking
when I'm out.

Its a shame the website doesn't have location, I do not use Google
play, but I guess thats why you want to put them into OSM.

As its a UK scheme, discussion on the talk-gb list would be more
focussed and you will reach more mappers who are able to survey
and contribute.

Cheers
Phil  (trigpoint)

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear All,

We have actively debated over the past 11 days the best manner to tag an
establishment which offers free water bottle refills as part of an
established scheme.

Thank you all for your comments and input during this tumultuous process.

After much deliberation, the latest proposal  "drinking_water:refill_scheme
= " seems to have enough support to merit being put to a vote.

Please find below the proposal for drinking_water:refill_scheme being which
is being put to vote.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water=edit



Best regards,

Stuart





On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 15:29, Markus Peloso  wrote:

> Thanks for that. Now it's clear for me.
>
>
>
> +1 from me for drinking_water:refill_scheme
>
>
>
> I found three national programs (with maps) that I think are related to
> this tag.
>
> - https://refill.org.uk/refill-schemes/
>
> - https://refill-deutschland.de/
>
> - http://www.fillitup.ch/karte.html
>
>
>
> *Von: *European Water Project 
> *Gesendet: *Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 08:02
> *An: *Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> 
> *Betreff: *Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I have amended the proposal with the tag and a simplified example.
>
>
>
> The proposal is definitely more KISS.
>
>
>
> drinking_water:refill_scheme = 
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 14:21, Philip Barnes  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 22 January 2020, European Water Project wrote:
> > Hi Paul et. al,
> >
> > I would also be very supportive of this straightforward approach which
> > would address many of the concerns regarding an over complicated tagging
> > scheme covering cases that are often mandated by local legislation.
> >
> > One clean solution could be the following or something similar.
> >
> > drinking_water:refill_scheme=
> >
>
> Thank you.
>
> Paul's response did clear up my reservations on the idea.
>
> The webpage makes it clear there is a sticker that is verifiable without
> going in a asking. Not sure if that was mentioned before or if I had simply
> missed it.
>
> This meets the gold osm standard of Verifable.
>
> Now I know there is something to look out for I can start looking when I'm
> out.
>
> Its a shame the website doesn't have location, I do not use Google play,
> but I guess thats why you want to put them into OSM.
>
> As its a UK scheme, discussion on the talk-gb list would be more focussed
> and you will reach more mappers who are able to survey and contribute.
>
> Cheers
> Phil  (trigpoint)
>
> --
> Sent from my Sailfish device
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