Re: [Tagging] How to tag a light that is always green for certain directions?

2020-07-06 Thread Matthew Woehlke

On 06/07/2020 15.28, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:

On 7/6/20 12:59, Matthew Woehlke wrote:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7688734125 is a traffic light that is
always green for straight traffic (left turns get a cycle). Is there a
way to tag this?

(I recall seeing a way to tag a signal as always green, but a) IIRC it
didn't distinguish always green *only* for certain directions, and
anyway b) I can't find it again, even using the wiki search or Google.)


traffic_signals=continuous_green for the approach that has a continuous
green. The left turn traffic should have a standard traffic signal node.


I can't see how that can work. The intersection has a "single" light 
(single cluster of signals, anyway; one signal per lane as is often the 
case), and is a fairly typical three-lane highway (three lanes 
westbound, that is). The lanes are not separated in any way aside from 
lane markings. Unless I am *completely* misunderstanding you (always 
possible), the only way what you're proposing would work is if the left 
turn lane was modeled as a separate way from where the turn lane starts, 
which is a) a pain to model, and b) just not done AFAICT (and very 
likely not recommended either!).


See 
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8624981,-73.7768253,3a,75y,276.06h,92.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swTw_2p-hAbi7yl-tRuPloQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192.


Moreover, I'm reasonably confident I've seen *actual* single signals 
that were always green for one direction (e.g. a four-lamp signal with 
red/yellow/green 'up' arrows and an always-on green right arrow).


Maybe we need something like traffic_signals:through=continuous_green? I 
suppose we could also do traffic_signals:lanes, but that seems fraught 
with parsing pitfalls, and wouldn't work anyway for e.g. a signal on a 
single lane that always has a green right arrow but a regular cycle for 
other traffic.


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Re: [Tagging] How to tag a light that is always green for certain directions?

2020-07-06 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 7/6/20 12:59, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7688734125 is a traffic light that is
> always green for straight traffic (left turns get a cycle). Is there a
> way to tag this?
> 
> (I recall seeing a way to tag a signal as always green, but a) IIRC it
> didn't distinguish always green *only* for certain directions, and
> anyway b) I can't find it again, even using the wiki search or Google.)

traffic_signals=continuous_green for the approach that has a continuous
green. The left turn traffic should have a standard traffic signal node.

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[Tagging] How to tag a light that is always green for certain directions?

2020-07-06 Thread Matthew Woehlke
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7688734125 is a traffic light that is 
always green for straight traffic (left turns get a cycle). Is there a 
way to tag this?


(I recall seeing a way to tag a signal as always green, but a) IIRC it 
didn't distinguish always green *only* for certain directions, and 
anyway b) I can't find it again, even using the wiki search or Google.)


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