Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


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> On 21. Mar 2020, at 14:26, Andrew Harvey  wrote:
> 
> I guess it depends on what state the building is in, eg if it's been gutted 
> and in need of a lot of maintenance to be a functional service building then 
> I'd probably still use the lifecycle prefix.


judging by the lifecycle tags, “disused:” is hardly fitting for any building 
(it is a tag that makes sense for functions and services). Even “abandoned” 
buildings are still seen as buildings, typically. For ruins it could make sense 
to use lifecycle tags, as these will commonly be seen as not a building anymore.

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Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 13:26, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

> I guess it depends on what state the building is in, eg if it's been
> gutted and in need of a lot of maintenance to be a functional service
> building then I'd probably still use the lifecycle prefix.
>

At the risk of awakening an old religious war, I'd use building=service +
disused=yes rather than disused:building=service.  Take that as a suggestion
of valid tagging you may find preferable rather than an insistence you do it
that way.

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Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread Andrew Harvey
I guess it depends on what state the building is in, eg if it's been gutted
and in need of a lot of maintenance to be a functional service building
then I'd probably still use the lifecycle prefix.

I thought about disused:building:use=service but not sure...

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 23:51, Joseph Eisenberg 
wrote:

> I don't think disused:building is the correct key. This is still a
> building=service, it's just being used to house bats instead of
> equipment. It is still a building.
>
> man_made=nesting_site is a good addition. But the current description
> suggests that it is "mounted on a support". Is that a requirement for
> using the tag?
>
> -- Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On 3/21/20, althio  wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 12:24, Andrew Harvey 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix
> >>
> >> disused:building=service
> >>
> >
> > This, and:
> > man_made=nesting_site
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dnesting_site
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:13, s8evq  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> How would you tag a small building that used to be an electricity
> >>> building where the army put power generators for the (backup) power of
> >>> an
> >>> airfield. This is not used anymore by the army. They transformed these
> >>> little house to provide ideal conditions for bats to live in. (close
> >>> certain entrances, put earth around the walls in a slope etc...). Any
> >>> ideas? Thanks.
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Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Joseph Eisenberg 
wrote:

>
> man_made=nesting_site is a good addition. But the current description
> suggests that it is "mounted on a support". Is that a requirement for
> using the tag?
>

It is clear from the first image on the page that "support" has a broader
meaning
than some of us would give it.  The roof is supporting the nests but it's
not
what many speakers of British English would call a support.  The tag should
probably have been "placement" or something similar rather than "support."

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Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I don't think disused:building is the correct key. This is still a
building=service, it's just being used to house bats instead of
equipment. It is still a building.

man_made=nesting_site is a good addition. But the current description
suggests that it is "mounted on a support". Is that a requirement for
using the tag?

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On 3/21/20, althio  wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 12:24, Andrew Harvey 
> wrote:
>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix
>>
>> disused:building=service
>>
>
> This, and:
> man_made=nesting_site
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dnesting_site
>
>
>
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:13, s8evq  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> How would you tag a small building that used to be an electricity
>>> building where the army put power generators for the (backup) power of
>>> an
>>> airfield. This is not used anymore by the army. They transformed these
>>> little house to provide ideal conditions for bats to live in. (close
>>> certain entrances, put earth around the walls in a slope etc...). Any
>>> ideas? Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread althio
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 12:24, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix
>
> disused:building=service
>

This, and:
man_made=nesting_site
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dnesting_site



> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:13, s8evq  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> How would you tag a small building that used to be an electricity
>> building where the army put power generators for the (backup) power of an
>> airfield. This is not used anymore by the army. They transformed these
>> little house to provide ideal conditions for bats to live in. (close
>> certain entrances, put earth around the walls in a slope etc...). Any
>> ideas? Thanks.
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
building=service

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:24 PM Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix
>
> disused:building=service
>
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:13, s8evq  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> How would you tag a small building that used to be an electricity
>> building where the army put power generators for the (backup) power of an
>> airfield. This is not used anymore by the army. They transformed these
>> little house to provide ideal conditions for bats to live in. (close
>> certain entrances, put earth around the walls in a slope etc...). Any
>> ideas? Thanks.
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread Andrew Harvey
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix

disused:building=service

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 19:13, s8evq  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> How would you tag a small building that used to be an electricity building
> where the army put power generators for the (backup) power of an airfield.
> This is not used anymore by the army. They transformed these little house
> to provide ideal conditions for bats to live in. (close certain entrances,
> put earth around the walls in a slope etc...). Any ideas? Thanks.
>
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[Tagging] Shelter for bats in an old building

2020-03-21 Thread s8evq
Hi everyone,

How would you tag a small building that used to be an electricity building 
where the army put power generators for the (backup) power of an airfield. This 
is not used anymore by the army. They transformed these little house to provide 
ideal conditions for bats to live in. (close certain entrances, put earth 
around the walls in a slope etc...). Any ideas? Thanks.

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