[Tagging] Tagging earthquake vulnerabilities of buildings: Developing world
Near Kathmandu, there's a series of tags relating to surveys of quake
status of buildings. Would someone be interested in helping working out a
proper tag scheme, and proposing it to whatever groups are doing this data
collection?
The intent is great, the execution... um...
The execution is in alignment with their intent.
Their scheme actually appears to be a localized and even more simplified
subset of ISO 28841:2013 Guidelines for simplified seismic assessment and
rehabilitation of concrete buildings: ( ... The rules of design as set
forth in ISO 28841:2013 are simplifications of more elaborate requirements.
... can be used as an alternative to the development of a building code, or
equivalent document in countries where no national design codes are
available by themselves, ), or something similar.
Their tagging system is derived from the cumulative efforts of thousands of
specialists ( seismologists, structural engineers, architects, etc.) over
decades with consultations of forensic experts with relief teams, created
by obviously people knowledgeable of local conditions and needs. In
combination with information not is OSM ( like the severity and location of
an actual event ), it would have great utility for triage and
prioritization of rescue and relief efforts. Or non-emergency upgrade
programs.
It looks long because of the manner of presentation and the duplications
caused by case insensitivity. In practice through an interface, it probably
isn't all that daunting to someone doing rapid field collection.
If there is a desire for OSM to grow by embracing communities of use, those
communities are going to arrive with their own ontologies and
classifications, and I doubt ('know') they are going sacrifice what they
regard as essential. And these groups will tend be a 'keystone community'
in an particular locality, and cause a lot of the other regular OSM
geometry in an area to be created and maintained, and their local
partnerships will create additional efforts and mappers.
IMHO, as long as they are operating in their area, I'd leave them alone and
see how it evolves. If it really is to complicated, they will soon figure
it out themselves. Most I'd do is ask them to put up a wikipage explaining
the intent and application.
Michael Patrick
Seattle OSM
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging earthquake vulnerabilities of buildings: Developing world
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Michael Patrick geodes...@gmail.com wrote: Near Kathmandu, there's a series of tags relating to surveys of quake status of buildings. Would someone be interested in helping working out a proper tag scheme, and proposing it to whatever groups are doing this data collection? The intent is great, the execution... um... The execution is in alignment with their intent. The key names are mostly misspelled! The data values are standardized. Have a read through the tag list in the initial email. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Tagging earthquake vulnerabilities of buildings: Developing world
Near Kathmandu, there's a series of tags relating to surveys of quake status of buildings. Would someone be interested in helping working out a proper tag scheme, and proposing it to whatever groups are doing this data collection? aware=abit aware=dont_know bldg_eq_Res=Dont Know bldg_eq_res=no bldg_eq_res=yes bldg_slope_land=no boat=no building:overhang=no building:soft_storey=no building:structure=load_bearing_brick_wall_in_cement_mortar building:structure=load_bearing_brick_wall_in_mud_mortar building:use=Bihar building:use=educational building:use=Factory building:use=GO/NGO/INGO building:use=Guthi building:use=Mixed building:use=Others building:use=Public service building:use=residental building:use=School Cantilever=No Cantilever=yes Cantilever=Yes CONS_TYPE=RBC CONS_TYPE=RCC D/P awarness=yes DP-E/Q resistance=yes Dp-)pen space=No D/P risk zone=No D/P - safe place=No DP-toolkit=No Earthquake Resistance=Yes Earthquake_Resistant_Bldg=May be Emergency_toolkit=no Emergency_toolkit=No Emergency_Toolkit=No emergency=yes Engin_Noneng=Engineered Engin_Noneng=Noneng Engin_Noneng=Non-Eng Engin_Noneng=Non Engineered Engin_Noneng=Owner_Built E/Q Resistance=May be EQ_RESISTANT=no Expansion joint for building 30 m long=No Expansion Joint for building 30m long=No ExpansionJoint=no ExpansionJoint=No flood/landslide_risk=no Flood/landslide_risk=no Flood/Landslide_risk Zone=No Flood/Landslide_Riskzone=No FLOOD_RISK=no Front Road=8m Ground_Settlement=No G_SETTLEMENT=no H_CANTILEVER=no Heavy overhang and cantilever=No Heavy Overhangs and Cantilever=No heavy_overhangs=no Heavy_overhangs=no Heavy_overhangs=No Heavy_Overhangs=Yes House No=31 HOUSE_NO=38 House_No=61 House_No=797 House_No.=96 House_type=Row Housing House_type=Row_Housing Housing Type=Row Housing H/w no=20 Identification_Safe Places=No MASS_ON_ROOF=no NO_OF_STOR=2 opening_hours=ujjwal's time (5-7pm) Open_space=yes Open_space=Yes Open Space=Yes *Owner*=Ajaya Kumar Sherstha Physical_condition=Good Physical_condition=Poor Physical_condition=Satisfactory Ponding Possibility=No Ponding=Yes Pounding_Possibility=No Pounding_Possibility=Yes Pounding_Poss=yes Pounding_Poss=Yes Poundings Possibility=Yes poundings=yes Poundings=yes Poundings=Yes POUNDING=yes REMARK=Underconstruction Risk Zone=No Rooftoptank=No Rooftoptank=yes Rooftoptank=Yes Roof top water tank , heavy machinery or other large mass=yes Roof top Water Tank, heavy machinery or other large mass=Yes rooftop_water_tank=no Rooftop_ Watertank=No rooftop_water_tank=yes Roof_top_watertank=yes Rooftop_water_tank=yes Rooftopwatertank=Yes Rooftop_ Watertank=Yes ROOF_TYPE=Rcc slab ROOF_TYPE=Weak Tile Safe_place=yes Safe place=Yes Safe Place=Yes SAFEPLACE=yes seismic_resistance=no Settlement=No Shape in elevation=Regular Shape of building in plan=Rectangular *Short_coloumn=no* *short column=no* *short_column=no* *Short_column=no* *Short_Column=no* *Short Column=No* *Short_Column=No* *ShortColumn=No* *SHORT_COLUMN=no* *short column=yes* *Short_column=Yes* *ShortColumn=yes* *Short Column=Yes* *Short_Column=Yes* *ShortColumn=Yes* SLOPE_LAND=no Sloping=No *soft/weak storey=No* *soft:weakStorey=no* *Soft/Weak Storey=No* *soft/weak _storey=yes* *soft/weak_storey=yes* *soft:weakStorey=Yes* *Soft/weak Storey=Yes* *Soft/Weak_storey=yes* *Soft/Weak_Storey=yes* *Soft/Weak_Storey=Yes* *Soft/weak_story=no* sorey=3 Sufficient_Openspace=No Sufficient_Openspace=Yes Sufficient_Openspace=Yes(Araniko_highway) SUF_OPEN_SPACE=yes SW_STOREY=no Tole=Chadani Chowk Tole_Name=Bakhu Tole tole_name=chandanichowk Tole_Name=Chandanichowk TOOLKIT=no Types of Cracks=No Cracks USE=Residental V/F - cantilever=No V/F - ponding=No V/F - settlement=No V/F - short column=No V/F - sloping=No VF_Softstorey=No V/F soft weak storey=No V/F -water tank=Yes Visible_grd_settlement=no Visible_grd_settlement=No visible_grd_settlement=yes Visible_grd_settlement=yes visible ground settlement=No Visible_GroundSettlemt=no Visible_GroundSettlemt=No Visible_GroundSettlemt=NO Visible Physical Condition of the building=Good Visisble Ground Settlement=No vulnerability=yes Vulnerability=Yes *ward_no=08* *Wardno=08* *Ward_No=08* *ward no=10* *ward no=8* *WardNo=8* *WARD_NO=8* The intent is great, the execution... um... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
