Re: [Tagging] US Forest Service (USDA) and logging

2018-07-18 Thread Warin

On 18/07/18 10:25, Michael Patrick wrote:


> Apparently areas used for logging-related purposes are not to be
mapped in
> OSM .. there are no tags available for this land use.
> We simply cannot map them.
>

Well, this complicates things for the US, most national forests
are for this purpose.


Actually, it is not 'most' ... 2,000 Million total acres of land, only 
150 Million under unreserved forest land (timberland). And of that 
actual harvesting affects only 10 million acres in the U.S. annually, 
or about 1.3% of all forest land. But, I agree, it is 'complicated':


Yes it is complicated.
Here a pink arse parrot takes up residence in a tree and you cannot log 
near them. Fine.
But the intention was and is to have that area available for timber, may 
not happen for another 20 years .. but it should happen.

So I'd still map it for the landuse of timber.
There are other restrictions too - near a creek etc.

--
My idea of landuse=logging is that it takes place for a short period of 
time (compared to the growing of a tree) so it is like changing 
landuse=farmland to landuse=harvesting while crops are being harvested.
Not only that, but it may be that an area of trees is being cut down to 
create a farm or a new suburb or some industrial plant ... so 
landuse=logging is not a good tag.  No mater how numerous the use of the 
tag.



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[Tagging] US Forest Service (USDA) and logging

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Patrick
>
> > Apparently areas used for logging-related purposes are not to be mapped
> in
> > OSM .. there are no tags available for this land use.
> > We simply cannot map them.
> >
>
> Well, this complicates things for the US, most national forests are for
> this purpose.
>

Actually, it is not 'most' ... 2,000 Million total acres of land, only 150
Million under unreserved forest land (timberland). And of that actual
harvesting affects only 10 million acres in the U.S. annually, or about
1.3% of all forest land. But, I agree, it is 'complicated':

"Forest-wide management requirements (standards and guidelines) for
resources and activities such as vegetation management, timber, wilderness,
fish and wildlife habitat, grazing, recreation, mineral exploration and
development, water and soils, cultural and historic resources, research
natural areas, and diversity of plant and animal communities. ...The
activities described in a management area prescription might include
motorized recreation, non-motorized recreation, ski areas, timber harvest,
livestock grazing, mineral exploration and development, roads and trails,
buildings, fire and fuels management, invasive species control, research
activities, and protection of resources such as air, water, riparian areas,
soils, wildlife habitat, species diversity, or cultural and historic
resources. "

Most state forest plans also follow the same multiple use model. And
'private' timberland is about the same amount of area as the public
timberland.

Michael Patrick
Data Ferret
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