Re: [Tagging] Using highway=footway as an area
Il giorno 10/ago/2014, alle ore 16:53, SomeoneElse ha scritto: >> Hi >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.49428/-0.12149 >> >> I've noticed highway=footway is being used as an area across Lambeth Bridge: >> North side as a closed polygon; South side within a relation. (checking the >> history previously they were both highway=pedestrian. > > Regardless of whether it's mapped as a footway or as a pedestrian area it > looks like a fairly extreme case of "mapping for the renderer with no thought > given to map usability". There could be a Bridge polygon for instance to unify the ways on the bridge Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Using highway=footway as an area
On 09/08/2014 17:06, Dave F. wrote: Hi http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.49428/-0.12149 I've noticed highway=footway is being used as an area across Lambeth Bridge: North side as a closed polygon; South side within a relation. (checking the history previously they were both highway=pedestrian. Regardless of whether it's mapped as a footway or as a pedestrian area it looks like a fairly extreme case of "mapping for the renderer with no thought given to map usability". If you look in the area of this node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2622468074 The data as it exists now suggests that there's no access west from this "footway island" to the pedestrian crossing across Millbank, or actually anywhere on the west bank of the Thames. This pedestrian island functionally duplicates the "real footway" http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/256600109 (from which you can get north and south, though not west) I'd be in favour of a similar linear / area split as there is with rivers = "waterway=river" - is the line of the river for e.g. routing purposes; "waterway=riverbank"the outline of the bank which can be used for rendering but ignored for routing. Cheers, Andy ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Using highway=footway as an area
Am 09.08.2014 18:06, schrieb Dave F.: > Hi > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.49428/-0.12149 > > I've noticed highway=footway is being used as an area across Lambeth > Bridge: North side as a closed polygon; South side within a relation. > (checking the history previously they were both highway=pedestrian. > > I thought that tag should be used linearly only, as per the wiki page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Footway > & areas should be highway=pedestrian. You'll notice though that mapnik > renders them the same way. Is that part of the recent carto upgrade? > > To me, having two different tags (footway, pedestrian) to represent the > same type of object is confusing, as is using the same tag (footway) to > represent two different types of object. Mmh, I tend to differ between an area signed as pedestrian and a square without any sign or signs for foot, bicycle and other modes. I also met highway=path + area=yes. In general highway=pedestrian is often interpreted wrong, especially if lots of special access condition are tag. At least for bicycle this is less problematic if we are using path or footway. Why do we use highway=pedestrians at all instead of footway or path as long as it is not explicitly signed ? Is there any problem with interpreting all three values with area=yes as equal or maybe even consider them a bit different ? cu fly ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Using highway=footway as an area
On 9 August 2014 17:06, Dave F. wrote: > You'll notice though that mapnik > renders them the same way. Is that part of the recent carto upgrade? No, the rendering hasn't been changed in this respect. See http://bl.ocks.org/tyrasd/raw/6164696/#18.00/51.49424/-0.12091. -- Matthijs ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Using highway=footway as an area
Hi http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.49428/-0.12149 I've noticed highway=footway is being used as an area across Lambeth Bridge: North side as a closed polygon; South side within a relation. (checking the history previously they were both highway=pedestrian. I thought that tag should be used linearly only, as per the wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Footway & areas should be highway=pedestrian. You'll notice though that mapnik renders them the same way. Is that part of the recent carto upgrade? To me, having two different tags (footway, pedestrian) to represent the same type of object is confusing, as is using the same tag (footway) to represent two different types of object. Any idea why these values have been changed? Cheers Dave F. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
