Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
2010/1/27 Liz ed...@billiau.net On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Woll Newall wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for tagging business that are not shops? I took a look in the wiki and the mailing lists but couldn't see anything (which is a bit strange, I would have expected someone to have asked before - maybe I looked for the wrong thing!). I also took a quick look at the map/database in my local area but couldn't see any such businesses tagged at all, so I couldn't learn from example either. I'm thinking of business that have offices/buildings, but they are not shops open to the general public, so shop=... doesn't seem natural. I've started office= tags and have put in something simple for what I have found office=accountant office=solicitor office=secretarial services office=insurance I do find that some period of experimental tagging helps me sort out what categories are going to be useful. I'm not capable of putting together a fully-fledged proposal for every sort of office I'm likely to find from the start. What you have done looks good. I think it makes sense. Emilie Laffray ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Woll Newall w...@2-islands.com wrote: A software development company A company that provides office cleaning services A call-centre A company that designs widgets Out of curiosity, what's your intention in tagging these things? I get tags like amenity=cafe or landuse=commercial, name=John's Software Consulting, but what kind of applications might make use of knowing that something is a software development house, but not knowing what it's called? Anyway, I like Liz's suggestion of tag first, then document and refine the scheme later. Steve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com writes: 2010/1/27 Liz ed...@billiau.net I've started office= tags and have put in something simple for what I have found office=accountant office=solicitor office=secretarial services office=insurance I do find that some period of experimental tagging helps me sort out what categories are going to be useful. I'm not capable of putting together a fully-fledged proposal for every sort of office I'm likely to find from the start. What you have done looks good. I think it makes sense. Would you tag a business facility that is not really an office like a machine shop or other production facility as office=* as well? Matthias ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
Why not use business=* instead? Simone 2010/1/27 Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com writes: 2010/1/27 Liz ed...@billiau.net I've started office= tags and have put in something simple for what I have found office=accountant office=solicitor office=secretarial services office=insurance I do find that some period of experimental tagging helps me sort out what categories are going to be useful. I'm not capable of putting together a fully-fledged proposal for every sort of office I'm likely to find from the start. What you have done looks good. I think it makes sense. Would you tag a business facility that is not really an office like a machine shop or other production facility as office=* as well? Matthias ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
On 27/01/2010 12:37, Matthias Julius wrote: Emilie Laffrayemilie.laff...@gmail.com writes: What you have done looks good. I think it makes sense. Would you tag a business facility that is not really an office like a machine shop or other production facility as office=* as well? I would use man_made=works for something that actually produces things, eg a factory / machine shop. Plus additional tags to describe what it prodcues etc. (though a large works may have offices within it, which you could map as well) Craig ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what's your intention in tagging these things? I get tags like amenity=cafe or landuse=commercial, name=John's Software Consulting, but what kind of applications might make use of knowing that something is a software development house, but not knowing what it's called? Assigning a name=* to a landuse=* area is IMHO a bit strange anyway, because the landuse is not the thing that has a name - in which case, some of these might be better described by office=* + name=* (in addition to the landuse area that might cover a larger area than the office, or several offices with different names). ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net wrote: Would you tag a business facility that is not really an office like a machine shop or other production facility as office=* as well? I would think not. There may be cases that are in the grey area, and if you can think of any examples (I can't right now) it's worth bringing up here. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: Why not use business=* instead? Because that overlaps with a BUNCH of stuff that already has tags (e.g. shop=*, a lot of amenity=*'s, etc.) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I like Liz's suggestion of tag first, then document and refine the scheme later. That's usually the method of the US police : shoot first and ask questions later. More like take into custody first and ask questions later. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
Land use can have a name Such and such industrial area etc On 1/28/10, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what's your intention in tagging these things? I get tags like amenity=cafe or landuse=commercial, name=John's Software Consulting, but what kind of applications might make use of knowing that something is a software development house, but not knowing what it's called? Assigning a name=* to a landuse=* area is IMHO a bit strange anyway, because the landuse is not the thing that has a name - in which case, some of these might be better described by office=* + name=* (in addition to the landuse area that might cover a larger area than the office, or several offices with different names). ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
2010/1/28 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: Usually the name of the area is different from that of the offices within it. And the office buildings themselves can also be named... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Woll Newall w...@2-islands.com wrote: The appropriate land-use tag is commercial (defined as Predominantly offices, business parks, etc.), so maybe such things should be tagged commercial=software_development, commercial=call_centre etc plus company name in the name tag? Not bad, but commercial is an adjective, not a noun. Perhaps office=commercial + commercial=* would be better? I dunno, surely there's been better thought out proposals on this before? I couldn't find any either... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses
Am 27.01.2010 01:46, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2010/1/27 Roy Wallacewaldo000...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Woll Newallw...@2-islands.com wrote: The appropriate land-use tag is commercial (defined as Predominantly offices, business parks, etc.), so maybe such things should be tagged commercial=software_development, commercial=call_centre etc plus company name in the name tag? Not bad, but commercial is an adjective, not a noun. you could use commerce instead? still: Perhaps office=commercial + commercial=* would be better? +1, I like this because it also allows for office=non-commercial Keep it simple: office=call_centre Regards, ULFL ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
