Re: [Tails-dev] Tails-greeter UI redesign
On 04/10/12 21:21, a...@boum.org wrote: > > Hi, > > Some time ago, I wrote: > >> From: a...@boum.org >> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:44:15 +0200 >> >> As you have probably experienced, tails-greeter UI is far from >> ergonomic. Thus, some of use discussed plans to improve the situations[1]. >> >> These plans include asking for your input on UI design proposals. >> We will then propose 1 or 2 implementations, get them tested and see >> what happens. >> >> So it's time for those who care to send what you find relevant, be it >> suggestions about something not to forget about, proposals or user >> experience workflow, UI mockups or anything else. > > Well no answer so far... but I took some time to play on this, and have > some mockups to propose. Please test! > > Everything is on the ticket, under the title "Prototypes": > > https://tails.boum.org/todo/tails-greeter:_revamp_UI/ > > Download everything in > > https://tails.boum.org/todo/tails-greeter:_revamp_UI/mockups/ > > or better clone the git, go to the directory and: > > $ ./mockup.py [-v ] [-p] > > Dependencies: gtk3, python gobject introspection (basically debian wheezy) > > My goals for the interface was: > > - read in "natural" order: top to bottom > - no hidden windows/options > - easy to adapt to right-to-left languages RTL > - inspired/similar to GNOME3 "system perferences" > > I'd like to hear about: > > - your overall impression? > - should keyboard selectable independently from locale in one click? > - your navigation experience? > - where should the locales box be? First of all, it's really great to be able to test UI mockups like this! And I think they all improve on the current Trail Greeter. Regarding the comparison with GNOME System Settings, I feel that the idea of Tails Greeter is to offer a nice way of navigating between possible options, changing none or many of them, and then log in. On the other hand, GNOME System Settings is more focus towards helping you to find the particular setting that you want to modify and then be done with it. I felt this idea of moving back and forth between possible options work better in version 3, where the set of possible options always stays visible and the settings for a particular option appears in another pane. Otherwise, if the possible options disappear when you select one, you might think that you are in a sequence of windows, like in the current Greeter. But I also like better the horizontal listing of the options from all the versions. I see we can fit nicely two rows of 6 options, but I fear that wouldn't work with the more vertical setup. Regarding the language and persistence options. I also prefer version 3: I think it's enough to have the language option that can be expanded in the side pane just as the other ones, as long as it is the one shown be default when opening on Tails Greeter. But then I would separate it from the “Persistence” which would be another option, say the second one in the list. I would group Language with Keyboard and have “Language & Keyboard” that would show widgets to choose the language, the region and the keyboard. If the keyboard widget is smart and adapts to what's in the language and region options, then that's perfect. To sum up, I would go for version 3 but with an horizontal layout and separate “Language & Keyboard” and “Persistence” options. Does that make sense? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tails-dev mailing list tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev
Re: [Tails-dev] Bookmarks persistence - help needed
On 15/10/12 19:47, Ague Mill wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:11:14PM +0200, Alessandro Grassi wrote: >>> Yes, it is too late. But don't worry, 0.15 should be out early >>> December. :) That gives us a little more room to have the >>> documentation well polished and delivered with more translations. >> >> Fine. I made a new patch for documentation, and symlink patch is fixed >> to create the bookmarks folder. All the needed patches are attached. > > Wonderful! > > Everything works fine according to my tests, so I have pushed your work > in the `feature/persistent_bookmarks` branch and merged it in > experimental. > > Please note that I did not upload a customized tails-persistent-setup > and relied on a patch instead, as I wanted to leave > tails-persistent-setup alone until 0.14 is out. Nice documentation :) I just fixed the . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tails-dev mailing list tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev
Re: [Tails-dev] Images on doc/first_steps/persistence/configure broken in offline documentation
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:07:03PM +0200, sajol...@pimienta.org wrote: > On 15/10/12 19:38, Ague Mill wrote: > > The source for the `doc/first_steps/persistence/configure` pages > > contains: > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, this relative path will not work for offline > > documentation. Is there a problem in using ikiwiki's [[!img]]? > > > > After some quick grepping, it looks like this is the only page with that > > problem. > > I played around for a while when first coming up with this technique for > the “Introduction to GNOME and the Tails desktop” page. But yes, indeed > the > Fixed everywhere by commit 41197c8. Great! -- Ague pgpn42jGEhy4S.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ tails-dev mailing list tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev
Re: [Tails-dev] Images on doc/first_steps/persistence/configure broken in offline documentation
On 15/10/12 19:38, Ague Mill wrote: > Hi! > > The source for the `doc/first_steps/persistence/configure` pages > contains: > > > > Unfortunately, this relative path will not work for offline > documentation. Is there a problem in using ikiwiki's [[!img]]? > > After some quick grepping, it looks like this is the only page with that > problem. I played around for a while when first coming up with this technique for the “Introduction to GNOME and the Tails desktop” page. But yes, indeed the signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tails-dev mailing list tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev
Re: [Tails-dev] Pidgin Protocols Safe?
sajol...@pimienta.org: > On 13/10/12 00:54, adrelanos wrote: >> intrigeri: >>> adrelanos wrote (12 Oct 2012 13:02:35 GMT) : Just created a wishlist item. >>> >>> adrenalos, >>> you created 4 such items in there since the beginning on the month. >> >> You told me to create a wishlist item. >> >> https://tails.boum.org/forum/Tails_without_Tor___40__behind_Transparent_Proxy__41__/ >> >> Well, long time ago, but I finally did. Perhaps I have read way to often >> "create a wishlist item" in the forums and took you up on that. >> >> Are my wishlist items a disturbance? Do you wish less wishlist items? >> >>> This is great to see you care about that many aspects of Tails, >>> but it's not clear to me what you expect to happen as a result. >> >> Sharing ideas, feedback, someone popping up to do it, turning wishlist >> into todo, turning into implementation, turning into patches welcome or no. >> >>> I need to make sure you're aware that IIRC no item from this >>> (long) wishlist has ever been turned into releasable code >>> or documentation. >> >> Wasn't aware of this. > > I'm adding a pointer to your review of protocols in the todo item for > better Pidgin & OTR documentation. Ok, thanks. > It would be great if you could continue your review so that we can work > on incorporating it to the documentation when this one will be written. I don't know what else I could contribute on that topic. ___ tails-dev mailing list tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev
Re: [Tails-dev] Pidgin Protocols Safe?
On 13/10/12 00:54, adrelanos wrote: > intrigeri: >> adrelanos wrote (12 Oct 2012 13:02:35 GMT) : >>> Just created a wishlist item. >> >> adrenalos, >> you created 4 such items in there since the beginning on the month. > > You told me to create a wishlist item. > > https://tails.boum.org/forum/Tails_without_Tor___40__behind_Transparent_Proxy__41__/ > > Well, long time ago, but I finally did. Perhaps I have read way to often > "create a wishlist item" in the forums and took you up on that. > > Are my wishlist items a disturbance? Do you wish less wishlist items? > >> This is great to see you care about that many aspects of Tails, >> but it's not clear to me what you expect to happen as a result. > > Sharing ideas, feedback, someone popping up to do it, turning wishlist > into todo, turning into implementation, turning into patches welcome or no. > >> I need to make sure you're aware that IIRC no item from this >> (long) wishlist has ever been turned into releasable code >> or documentation. > > Wasn't aware of this. I'm adding a pointer to your review of protocols in the todo item for better Pidgin & OTR documentation. It would be great if you could continue your review so that we can work on incorporating it to the documentation when this one will be written. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tails-dev mailing list tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev
