Re: [Tails-dev] What do we miss to replace Vidalia [was: Getting rid of Vidalia]

2015-02-12 Thread Alan
Hi,

sajolida sajol...@pimienta.org wrote:
 I cloned your repo, installed python-stem, tried to run setup.py and
 tormonitor.py and got errors for both.
 
 How can I test this from Tails?
 
 $ python setup.py
   File setup.py, line 10
 requires=['stem','gi']
^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 
Sorry I messed up the initial commit. Please clone the repo again, and
from Tails/Jessie:

sudo apt-get install python-stem python-pysocks
sudo ./setup.py install
sudo iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 9050 -d 127.0.0.1 -m owner
\ --uid-owner vidalia -j ACCEPT
sudo -u vidalia tormonitor

For the rest of the questions see my other email in this thread.

Cheers
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Re: [Tails-dev] What do we miss to replace Vidalia [was: Getting rid of Vidalia]

2015-02-12 Thread Alan
Hi,

intrigeri intrig...@boum.org wrote:
 sajolida wrote (11 Feb 2015 15:12:02 GMT) :
  $ python tormonitor.py
  [Errno 13] Permission denied
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File tormonitor.py, line 346, in module
  app = TorMonitorApplication()
File tormonitor.py, line 316, in __init__
  message_format=_(Unable to connect to Tor daemon.))
 
 Seems that there's a bug in this code path.
 
I don't think that there is a bug in this code path. You need Gtk =
3.14 (basically Jessie). Please clone the repository again as I messed
up the initial commit.

 And/or maybe you're hitting this bug because you're running the code
 as the `amnesia' user, who cannot talk to the Tor control port. Try as
 the vidalia user?
 
The user running tormonitor must have access to Tor control socket
*and* to Tor SOCKS port. In Tails/Jessie:

sudo iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 9050 -d 127.0.0.1 -m owner
\ --uid-owner vidalia -j ACCEPT
sudo -u vidalia tormonitor

  Do we miss something else to replace Vidalia ?
 
[...]

- Info about relays in the circuits.
 
 Would be useful, but not a blocker IMO, since that's an advanced
 feature and is already provided by arm.
 
Tor Monitor provides this info.

- Ability to close a circuit manually.
 
 No idea what are the use case for this feature that we would want to
 support. If someone really wants it, better add it to arm IMO.
 
Tor Monitor doesn't provide this feature yet. It would be very easy to
add, even though I'm not sure I find it desirable: currently we only
*monitor* Tor. Do we also really want to *control* it?

- Ability to view logs from Tor without an
  administration password.
 
 Not sure what action one can easily take based on the info found in
 these logs, without an administration password. I say we can forget
 that one too. If someone really wants it, better add it to arm IMO.
 
That would be quite easy to add it there is a consensus that it is
useful.

- New identity (the one we have in Tor Browser does something
  different).
 
 We had plans (#5716) to hide this Vidalia feature, so I don't think we
 should add it to this new GUI. This feature is available in arm
 already anyway, for advanced users who know what they're doing, and
 for people who insist on shooting themselves in the foot.
 
Easy to add, even though I'm not convinced for the same reason as
Close circuit

- Bandwidth Graph.
 
 Advanced feature IMO, already present in arm. If we care much about
 getting this info graphically, then I think some GNOME system monitor
 would be a better tool to satisfy the need (it would be a suitable
 replacement in the context of Tails, since we're routing almost
 everything through Tor).
 
It would be possible (and I think desirable) to add a bandwidth graph to
Tor Monitor and I already thought about it. But I don't know how to
implement that in Gtk yet, and I'd better see this as a fun item than
as a required feature. Patches are welcome though, and if there is a
consensus that it is required I'll do it.

  Which one of those are you covering already or did you consider?
 
 IMO we should focus on the basic features we would strongly miss if we
 drop Vidalia, and leave anything more advanced to arm. This way, we
 keep our maintenance workload to the bare minimum, and provide
 a simpler GUI.
 
I agree on that. Currently Tor Monitor provides circuit and associated
streams, and infos on relays in a circuit. We could add the logs easily
and the bandwidth graph less easily to provide a nice monitor. I'm not
sure that the other features are desirable.

Cheers
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Re: [Tails-dev] Watching issues.

2015-02-12 Thread sycamoreone
sycamoreone:
 Hi,
 
 I currently can't watch and unwatch issues in the Redmine. Is this just
 me, a known issue, or does everybody has this problem?

To solve my own problems: Just don't block the JavaScript and everything
will work fine.

Cheers!
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[Tails-dev] Watching issues.

2015-02-12 Thread sycamoreone
Hi,

I currently can't watch and unwatch issues in the Redmine. Is this just
me, a known issue, or does everybody has this problem?

-- 
sycamoreone
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