[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, sajolida: Thanks a lot for working on this, you saved me a bunch of headache! No worries; I happened to be in a room full of Macs that day :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Spencer: >> sajolida: >> I see that you changed the background from gray to >> black. Was this on purpose? > > Within the current Mac Boot ROM version (2015-001) [0], there are two > background colors: > > - Gray = Old (Pre Mavericks/Yosemite) > - Black = New (Post Mavericks/Yosemite) > > I am unable to confirm anything more specific :( That's very specific already! > It is up to you which you will use but they are both correct. I'll stick to the black one then to me more future-proof as it comes from the new versions of Os X. Thanks a lot for working on this, you saved me a bunch of headache! ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, sajolida: I see that you changed the background from gray to black. Was this on purpose? Within the current Mac Boot ROM version (2015-001) [0], there are two background colors: - Gray = Old (Pre Mavericks/Yosemite) - Black = New (Post Mavericks/Yosemite) I am unable to confirm anything more specific :( It is up to you which you will use but they are both correct. Old = Tested on: - Old = MacBookPro9,2 - New = MacBookPro11,3 Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1823 ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Spencer: >> sajolida: >> >> Could you update both and have Tails selected? >> > > Yeperino [0] :) They are sized based on the image you found online, so > if you need a specific size... otherwise, these are the two most Mac > people will see (in 2012 the hard drive icon had yet to be updated so > the boot menu displays the "old" hard drive icon with the "new" external > drive icon) :) Super cool, again! I see that you changed the background from gray to black. Was this on purpose? Otherwise, I'll add them straight away to the new instructions. The size is fine or otherwise I'll crop some of the background. ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Spencer: > intrigeri wrote: >> [shall we go on cross-posting forever, or?] > > I will keep this in dev since you seem to like reading this kind of > stuff :) Yes, let's do that as we're all three on tails-dev and nobody from tails-testers answered. >> Do you need tests on another Mac? > > All should perform the same based on their Boot ROM Version; here[0] is > a list. An OSXpert, or someone with access every Boot ROM Version, > would need to fully confirm the subtle differences in each. > > [0]: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201518 I think we have enough. I'll phrase the instructions in a way that makes it clear that the screenshot might vary a bit depending on the Mac version. But I still think they are going to be important to clarify the context (what screen are we talking about). >> sajolida: >> Do you confirm that the DVD appears with a hard disk icon on > > I cannot. The disk icon image is what shows :( > > Here [1] :) Ah! I like this better :) >> Does it make any difference if the USB Stick is installed >> using the command line? > > Nope. Tail 1.6 prompts the same screen and icon set on startup from USB > Sticks that have Tails cloned via both the Tails Installer and Bash. Ok, that's easier for us then. > Direct USB Stick install might differ, but maybe not since I think the > startup icons are driven by the firmware on whatever device is in question. > >> Well, now I'm wondering ... > > No worries. Although Cheetah, Panther, Leopard, and Lion introduce > major graphic updates, it seems that there are only two major startup > screens Mac users will be presented with today: > > - One for Yosemite & El Capitan. > - One for Lion to Mavericks. > > The differences here are icons and background colors; minor enough that > it isn't confusing (unless they have the bug that shows a ghost volume, > but an update would resolve that). Yes, that's minor enough. So now I'm convinced that I want to use your screenshots. Could you do a last thing for me? Could you update both the one for DVD and the one for USB and have the Tails DVD and Tails USB selected (the arrow below the Tails one)? Many thanks! I really hate dealing with Mac. ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, intrigeri wrote: Hi, [shall we go on cross-posting forever, or?] I will keep this in dev since you seem to like reading this kind of stuff :) Do you need tests on another Mac? All should perform the same based on their Boot ROM Version; here[0] is a list. An OSXpert, or someone with access every Boot ROM Version, would need to fully confirm the subtle differences in each. [0]: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201518 --- sajolida: Do you confirm that the DVD appears with a hard disk icon on I cannot. The disk icon image is what shows :( Here [1] :) Does it make any difference if the USB Stick is installed using the command line? Nope. Tail 1.6 prompts the same screen and icon set on startup from USB Sticks that have Tails cloned via both the Tails Installer and Bash. Direct USB Stick install might differ, but maybe not since I think the startup icons are driven by the firmware on whatever device is in question. Well, now I'm wondering ... No worries. Although Cheetah, Panther, Leopard, and Lion introduce major graphic updates, it seems that there are only two major startup screens Mac users will be presented with today: - One for Yosemite & El Capitan. - One for Lion to Mavericks. The differences here are icons and background colors; minor enough that it isn't confusing (unless they have the bug that shows a ghost volume, but an update would resolve that). We could do a user driven image swap on the Mac instructions for higher accuracy. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, Spencer: [Something close to correct] Actually, here[0] is the DVD startup screen, and here[1] is the USB Stick startup screen. These are a hybrid of Yosemite, El Capitan, and whatever came on the 2009 macs in this library (depreciated startup disk and USB icons appear at boot). Let me know if you would like these adjusted in any way. Wordlife, Spencer [0]: macbootDVD.png [1]: macbootUSB.png ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, sajolida: I want something like this but wonder what the label is with Tails: http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/boot-from-os-x-yosemite-installer.jpg Using a library computer I can see that the label is 'Windows', and unlike Kali and the likes, there is no extra EFI volume :) That's for the instructions on the website. Bonus point if you manage to send a direct PNG screenshot and not a photo of the screen but I'm not sure that's possible. Find those hard drive volume icons and make one yourself (I will if you provide some sizing info). There are two volumes; one labeled 'Macintosh HD' (if not customized), and one labeled 'Windows'. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, Could someone with a Mac and a typical OS X install, take a screenshot of what the boot menu looks like with a Tails USB stick plugged in? Either installed using `dd`, either installed using Tails Installer (please specify which one and if that makes a difference). I want something like this but wonder what the label is with Tails: http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/boot-from-os-x-yosemite-installer.jpg That's for the instructions on the website. Bonus point if you manage to send a direct PNG screenshot and not a photo of the screen but I'm not sure that's possible. ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
