Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie images outside of feature/jessie
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:47:12 + (UTC) intrigeri wrote: > Kill Your TV wrote (25 Nov 2014 01:58:44 GMT) : > > I discovered that working images can be built from the > > branch feature/jessie, > > Right, due to https://tails.boum.org/contribute/APT_repository/. Yes, I assumed that was the reason. > > but how do others build jessie images from /outside/ of the main > > feature/jessie branch? > > I don't think anyone does. You can work in a topic branch, and locally > merge it into feature/jessie to build it. Just the same as one is > supposed to do e.g. to test branches meant to be merged into stable. That's what I ended up doing. > Maybe that needs to be documented on [[contribute/build]]? Perhaps so. I nearly always build from topic branches before doing the local merge into the destination branch for a final test build, but perhaps I'm the only one (/weirdo) doing that. :) -- GPG ID: 0x5BF72F42D0952C5A Fingerprint: BD12 65FD 4954 C40A EBCB F5D7 5BF7 2F42 D095 2C5A pgpcdL4mq8on0.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie images outside of feature/jessie
Kill Your TV wrote (25 Nov 2014 01:58:44 GMT) : > I discovered that working images can be built from the > branch feature/jessie, Right, due to https://tails.boum.org/contribute/APT_repository/. > but how do others build jessie images from /outside/ of the main > feature/jessie branch? I don't think anyone does. You can work in a topic branch, and locally merge it into feature/jessie to build it. Just the same as one is supposed to do e.g. to test branches meant to be merged into stable. Maybe that needs to be documented on [[contribute/build]]? Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Jessie images outside of feature/jessie
I'm trying to build a Jessie image (to try my hand at https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/8262) as I normally do for the standard Wheezy images. For example, I branched off of feature/jessie: git checkout -b kytv/tests I commited my changes which only touch files under features/. I then built an image. The image building completed successfully. Booting this ISO (built from kytv/tests) in KVM leads to the "Oh no! Something had gone wrong" message. I've tried with both the VMVGA and QXL drivers. Unlike https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7890, however, I do not see that screen if I set session-name=gdm-shell. Indeed, after setting the session-name to gdm-shell I can login with the 'live' user. I discovered that working images can be built from the branch feature/jessie, but how do others build jessie images from /outside/ of the main feature/jessie branch? pgp8XoslDCbJh.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie session localization (#7897)
Hi, On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:31:26 +0200 intrigeri wrote: > It would be be useful to know exactly what you've tried and tested. > Otherwise, anyone else who has a look will likely start with > duplicating all of this work, which would be a shame, and, I have to > say, not terribly exciting... > Please find clarifications below. The very same text was added to redmine too. > > E.g. you wrote "I tried to boot tails jessie, comment the line > modifying .xsessionrc and change org.freedesktop.locale1.Locale with > gdbus. It's changed but the locale not applied in the session so it's > not the solution." -- how exactly did you try this? > I set up a root password with @rootpw@ on kernel command line, then when the greeter was ready I went to a text console, logged in, changed @.xsessionrc@ and launched @gdbus@ from that text console > (E.g. .xsessionrc is sourced *before* D-Bus is started, so if you did > it via this file, it couldn't possibly work.) > This call happens on the *system* bus which is started at this point. > Also, you wrote "If I understand well it looks for $LANG and other > variables in /etc/locale.conf but setting this don't work either"; how > exactly did you try to set this? I set up a root password and logged in a text console as above but instead of launching @gdbus@ I edited @locale.conf@. > The SetLocale method doesn't exist on my system. You really meant > org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetLanguage, right? Yes. Cheers ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie session localization (#7897)
intrigeri wrote (02 Oct 2014 16:43:22 GMT) : > However, same question regarding "There is also > a org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetLocale dbus method which doesn't > seem to work either", which seems to be a more plausible solution. The SetLocale method doesn't exist on my system. You really meant org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetLanguage, right? Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie session localization (#7897)
intrigeri wrote (02 Oct 2014 16:33:33 GMT) : > Also, you wrote "If I understand well it looks for $LANG and other > variables in /etc/locale.conf but setting this don't work either"; how > exactly did you try to set this? I don't think this is actually used for setting up the regular (non-GDM) GNOME session, as explained on the ticket. However, same question regarding "There is also a org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.SetLocale dbus method which doesn't seem to work either", which seems to be a more plausible solution. Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie session localization (#7897)
intrigeri wrote (02 Oct 2014 16:31:26 GMT) : >> Would someone please have a look? Should we ask GNOME developers? Also, you wrote "If I understand well it looks for $LANG and other variables in /etc/locale.conf but setting this don't work either"; how exactly did you try to set this? ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie session localization (#7897)
Hi, Alan wrote (23 Sep 2014 15:15:43 GMT) : > I'm giving up on https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7897: Fix > localization of GNOME session. Thanks for making this clear. > We have a working workaround but I can't find a proper fix after > hours of research and tests. It would be be useful to know exactly what you've tried and tested. Otherwise, anyone else who has a look will likely start with duplicating all of this work, which would be a shame, and, I have to say, not terribly exciting... > Would someone please have a look? Should we ask GNOME developers? E.g. you wrote "I tried to boot tails jessie, comment the line modifying .xsessionrc and change org.freedesktop.locale1.Locale with gdbus. It's changed but the locale not applied in the session so it's not the solution." -- how exactly did you try this? (E.g. .xsessionrc is sourced *before* D-Bus is started, so if you did it via this file, it couldn't possibly work.) > Consider the fix good enough? I'd rather not to give up *now*. We can still give up once we're on the last mile before releasing something based on Jessie. Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Jessie session localization (#7897)
Hi, I'm giving up on https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7897: Fix localization of GNOME session. We have a working workaround but I can't find a proper fix after hours of research and tests. Would someone please have a look? Should we ask GNOME developers? Consider the fix good enough? Thanks by advance, Cheers ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
intrigeri wrote: > Emma Peel wrote (17 Sep 2014 20:39:10 GMT) : >> do you know if there is a place for jessie's lives? > > I don't think there are any. And once there are, most likely they > won't ship non-free firmware, so won't be very useful for these tests. You can try to do full Debian install on a USB stick. It's damn slow but it should work for testing. -- sajolida ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
Emma Peel wrote (17 Sep 2014 20:39:10 GMT) : > do you know if there is a place for jessie's lives? I don't think there are any. And once there are, most likely they won't ship non-free firmware, so won't be very useful for these tests. Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 21:05:54 -0700 intrigeri wrote: > Hi, > > Emma Peel wrote (16 Sep 2014 15:49:02 GMT) : > > I could test, though my machine doesn't think she is old...(Thinkpad > > X60s). > > This would be a perfect machine to run this test on :) > > > Is this image available at > > http://nightly.tails.boum.org/build_Tails_ISO_feature-jessie/ ? > > Nope: the idea is to test GNOME Shell, and our Jessie images still use > GNOME Flashback. So you'll need to get a Debian Jessie or sid system > to boot on this machine, and try running GNOME Shell. Looks doable? > hmmm well i cannot see live images for Jessie... just for stable, here: https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ do you know if there is a place for jessie's lives? i guess there is also no link for a sid one: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/6350 ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
Hi, Emma Peel wrote (16 Sep 2014 15:49:02 GMT) : > I could test, though my machine doesn't think she is old...(Thinkpad > X60s). This would be a perfect machine to run this test on :) > Is this image available at > http://nightly.tails.boum.org/build_Tails_ISO_feature-jessie/ ? Nope: the idea is to test GNOME Shell, and our Jessie images still use GNOME Flashback. So you'll need to get a Debian Jessie or sid system to boot on this machine, and try running GNOME Shell. Looks doable? Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:30:19 -0700 intrigeri wrote: > > Yay. So, only testing on slightly older hardware that we *might* want > to go on supporting when migrating to Jessie (e.g. ThinkPad X32, > ThinkPad X60) is missing. Once we have test results on such a machine, > I'll formally propose that we ship GNOME Shell with the Classic set > of extensions. > I could test, though my machine doesn't think she is old...(Thinkpad X60s). Is this image available at http://nightly.tails.boum.org/build_Tails_ISO_feature-jessie/ ? Cheers signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie: "Oh no! something had gone wong"
Alan wrote: > Please do *not* merge them before proving they have the same cause: > > - #7323 happens *sometimes* in *wheezy* tails *after* the greeter and > seems related to persistence > - #7890 happens *always* for me with current *jessie* build *before* > the greeter I never meant to merge them :) But thanks for the clarification. I only wished you would find a fix for #7323 as well and kill two drones with one stone... -- sajolida ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
Alan wrote (13 Sep 2014 09:54:50 GMT) : > However with current tails jessie I hit a new bug: it displays "Oh no! > Something had gone wrong" instead of the greeter. Filed as > https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7890. I'll investigate this later > today, but any hind is appreciated. Congrats for fixing this! (When you post a progress updates on the list about new issues, I would find it useful if you kept the list aware once it's fixed, btw :) Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
Hi, anonym wrote (08 Sep 2014 21:36:16 GMT) : > 01/09/14 00:32, intrigeri wrote: > After two full days of parsing debug logs of all possible GNOME > components and looking at all the wrong things, I've now solved > #7633/#7673 with a one byte patch in Tails Greeter (commit 1189bd4)... Congrats! >> * #7563 - Update the automated test suite for Jessie [anonym] >> => blocked by #7560, and in turn by #7561 > Lots of fonts look different in feature/jessie builds, which makes this > into a lot more work (especially since it will be obsoleted again once > we move from GNOME flashback to GNOME Classic), so I created #7882 as a > blocker. I've fixed it. > Furthermore, even though we get into a GNOME session now, lots of > basic things are broken, and I suspect a major cause is #7881. Resolved to, as far as I understood that ticket. => you should be free to go :) >> * #7566 - Try GNOME Shell in a Jessie or sid VirtualBox VM [anonym] >> => ETA? > Done, and it looks pretty ok. Yay. So, only testing on slightly older hardware that we *might* want to go on supporting when migrating to Jessie (e.g. ThinkPad X32, ThinkPad X60) is missing. Once we have test results on such a machine, I'll formally propose that we ship GNOME Shell with the Classic set of extensions. Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Jessie: "Oh no! something had gone wong"
Hi, > >> However with current tails jessie I hit a new bug: it displays "Oh > >> no! Something had gone wrong" instead of the greeter. Filed as > >> https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7890. I'll investigate this > >> later today, but any hind is appreciated. > > > > This seems highly related to > > https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7323. > > > I set this one as duplicate, since it doesn't bring any new > information. Please do *not* merge them before proving they have the same cause: - #7323 happens *sometimes* in *wheezy* tails *after* the greeter and seems related to persistence - #7890 happens *always* for me with current *jessie* build *before* the greeter Cheers ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
hi, sajol...@pimienta.org wrote (13 Sep 2014 12:14:46 GMT) : > This seems highly related to https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7323. I don't think so. Quoting what I wrote on the ticket: The (very generic) error message is the same, but the root cause isn't: #7323 occurs rarely when loading the regular GNOME session (on Wheezy), while this one occurs everytime when loading the Greeter's GNOME session (on Jessie). The fix will likely be entirely different. Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
sajol...@pimienta.org a écrit : > Alan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:36:16 +0200 >> anonym wrote: >>> [...] * #7560 - Have Tails based on Jessie starting [anonym] => ETA? (blocked by #7561 [alan]; otherwise, the only remaining sub-task seems to be #7633 "Session fails to load in Jessie"... until we discover other blockers) >>> >>> After two full days of parsing debug logs of all possible GNOME >>> components and looking at all the wrong things, I've now solved >>> #7633/#7673 with a one byte patch in Tails Greeter (commit 1189bd4)... >>> >> Congrats! >> >> However with current tails jessie I hit a new bug: it displays "Oh no! >> Something had gone wrong" instead of the greeter. Filed as >> https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7890. I'll investigate this later >> today, but any hind is appreciated. > > This seems highly related to https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7323. > I set this one as duplicate, since it doesn't bring any new information. ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
Alan wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:36:16 +0200 > anonym wrote: >> [...] >>> * #7560 - Have Tails based on Jessie starting [anonym] => ETA? >>> (blocked by #7561 [alan]; otherwise, the only remaining sub-task >>> seems to be #7633 "Session fails to load in Jessie"... until we >>> discover other blockers) >> >> After two full days of parsing debug logs of all possible GNOME >> components and looking at all the wrong things, I've now solved >> #7633/#7673 with a one byte patch in Tails Greeter (commit 1189bd4)... >> > Congrats! > > However with current tails jessie I hit a new bug: it displays "Oh no! > Something had gone wrong" instead of the greeter. Filed as > https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7890. I'll investigate this later > today, but any hind is appreciated. This seems highly related to https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7323. -- sajolida ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
Hi, On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 23:36:16 +0200 anonym wrote: > [...] > > * #7560 - Have Tails based on Jessie starting [anonym] => ETA? > > (blocked by #7561 [alan]; otherwise, the only remaining sub-task > > seems to be #7633 "Session fails to load in Jessie"... until we > > discover other blockers) > > After two full days of parsing debug logs of all possible GNOME > components and looking at all the wrong things, I've now solved > #7633/#7673 with a one byte patch in Tails Greeter (commit 1189bd4)... > Congrats! However with current tails jessie I hit a new bug: it displays "Oh no! Something had gone wrong" instead of the greeter. Filed as https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7890. I'll investigate this later today, but any hind is appreciated. Cheers ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
01/09/14 00:32, intrigeri wrote: > Below, I'll list the tasks I'm the most concerned about, because they > are blocking other things we should do way before the freeze, and then > should *really* be completed *soon*. Most of these tasks are on Alan's > and anonym's plate (Cc'd), but I guess they wouldn't mind some help: [...] > * #7560 - Have Tails based on Jessie starting [anonym] => ETA? > (blocked by #7561 [alan]; otherwise, the only remaining sub-task > seems to be #7633 "Session fails to load in Jessie"... until we > discover other blockers) After two full days of parsing debug logs of all possible GNOME components and looking at all the wrong things, I've now solved #7633/#7673 with a one byte patch in Tails Greeter (commit 1189bd4)... > * #7563 - Update the automated test suite for Jessie [anonym] > => blocked by #7560, and in turn by #7561 Lots of fonts look different in feature/jessie builds, which makes this into a lot more work (especially since it will be obsoleted again once we move from GNOME flashback to GNOME Classic), so I created #7882 as a blocker. Furthermore, even though we get into a GNOME session now, lots of basic things are broken, and I suspect a major cause is #7881. Any quick clues on these two bugs would be appreciated! > * #7566 - Try GNOME Shell in a Jessie or sid VirtualBox VM [anonym] > => ETA? Done, and it looks pretty ok. Cheers! ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Jessie!
Hi, > at the summit, we have decided a timeline for getting our stuff ready > to be tested on Jessie. We're far from being there yet, and given the > Jessie freeze is on November 5th, in practice packages MUST have > reached testing by October ~25th. That gives us less than two months > to discover bugs and have them fixed and uploaded. I don't feel like > it's a lot of time. > Thanks for the reminder. > The parent ticket that tracks what we need to do ASAP is: > > https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7423 > > Below, I'll list the tasks I'm the most concerned about, because they > are blocking other things we should do way before the freeze, and then > should *really* be completed *soon*. Most of these tasks are on Alan's > and anonym's plate (Cc'd), but I guess they wouldn't mind some help: > > * #7568 - Write instructions to access the localized desktop without > a working Greeter [alan] => ETA? > It turned out that what worked before the migration of GTK 3.12 doesn't work anymore. So it's more work that I thought, but I'll try to get something working by the 14th. Help is welcome though. > * #7561 - Update the Greeter for Jessie [alan] => ETA? > (note that fixing #7568 is enough to unblock some of the other > tasks that are not listed here, but *not* enough for some others, > e.g. the test suite update) > It was also broken by the migration of 3.12. I'll fix it (or report why I can't...) the 14th. > * #7564 - Test Jessie's GNOME Shell with llvmpipe on old-ish > hardware (e.g. ThinkPad X32, ThinkPad X60) => I can't do that before > early October, so it would be great if someone else did. > I can try to do that depending on how much time the greeter things take. Cheers ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Jessie!
Hi, at the summit, we have decided a timeline for getting our stuff ready to be tested on Jessie. We're far from being there yet, and given the Jessie freeze is on November 5th, in practice packages MUST have reached testing by October ~25th. That gives us less than two months to discover bugs and have them fixed and uploaded. I don't feel like it's a lot of time. The parent ticket that tracks what we need to do ASAP is: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7423 Below, I'll list the tasks I'm the most concerned about, because they are blocking other things we should do way before the freeze, and then should *really* be completed *soon*. Most of these tasks are on Alan's and anonym's plate (Cc'd), but I guess they wouldn't mind some help: * #7568 - Write instructions to access the localized desktop without a working Greeter [alan] => ETA? * #7561 - Update the Greeter for Jessie [alan] => ETA? (note that fixing #7568 is enough to unblock some of the other tasks that are not listed here, but *not* enough for some others, e.g. the test suite update) * #7560 - Have Tails based on Jessie starting [anonym] => ETA? (blocked by #7561 [alan]; otherwise, the only remaining sub-task seems to be #7633 "Session fails to load in Jessie"... until we discover other blockers) * #7563 - Update the automated test suite for Jessie [anonym] => blocked by #7560, and in turn by #7561 * #7564 - Test Jessie's GNOME Shell with llvmpipe on old-ish hardware (e.g. ThinkPad X32, ThinkPad X60) => I can't do that before early October, so it would be great if someone else did. * #7566 - Try GNOME Shell in a Jessie or sid VirtualBox VM [anonym] => ETA? And here's a status update for things that are on my plate: * #7429 - Have seahorse-nautilus 3.10.1+ in Debian Jessie => needs a public statement of the maintainer, and then one of our favorite sponsors will review and upload the NMU * #7562 - Have AppArmor 2.8.95+ in Jessie: not needed, strictly speaking; we might have 2.8.4 instead, which will be good enough; I'm on it, and if Kees doesn't upload soon enough, I'll do it myself (I've formally become a co-maintainer). Cheers, -- intrigeri ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
