Re: [GTALUG] Checking for DNSSEC

2018-08-28 Thread ac via talk
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:02:45 -0400
Gordon Chillcott via talk  wrote:
> I got asked, off-line, by a couple of people if ICANN had any tools
> for testing for DNSSEC.  There are so I went in, dug them out and
> tried them.
> The question, by the way, was prompted by the news that the DNSSEC Key
> Signing Key rollover will take place on or about October 11 – this has
> been delayed twice.

i use dig (& scripts) - and yeah, October 11 - could still change,
again. it does not matter though as the present keys are valid past that...  

just have to add that I am very much anti 'walled gardens'  - so am
a proud dnssec fanboy :) 

Andre
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Re: [GTALUG] Which Distro is Best for Running a ZFS-on-Linux Fileserver.

2018-08-28 Thread David Mason via talk
I haven’t done a comparison lately, but used LVM for years, and liked it, but 
ZFS is so much more flexible: resize filesystems, snapshots, raidz2, sending to 
another ZFS system (for seamless backups and redundancy), auto-silvering, 
plug-and-play.

../Dave
On Aug 28, 2018, 9:18 PM -0400, Alvin Starr via talk , wrote:
> At the risk of poking the bear.
>
> Why use ZFS at all?
>
> ext4,XFS+LVM will do most all of the same things and from what I have
> read ZFS is slower than ext4,XFS and BTRFS.
>
>
> On 08/28/2018 05:18 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
> > Having read through the thread to date, I'm actually a little
> > disappointed at the number of linux users pushing towards a Solaris or
> > BSD for ZFS.
> >
> > My primary File servers (4 of them) are all using ZFS for their data
> > partitions.
> >
> >
> > Amos,
> >
> > ## Couple of Answers to your questions
> >
> > A) Disto?
> >
> > I regularly run ZFS on CentOS and Fedora on a mix of SSDs and HDDs of
> > both the internal and external varieties. Fedora has some caveats,
> > only in that sometimes the kernel releases get ahead of what the ZFS
> > on linux team will support. And it's just a matter of waiting on a
> > working kernel zfs combination a week or two for them to catch up.
> >
> > But frankly, just pick your favorite distro and follow the relevant
> > getting started guide.
> >
> > https://zfsonlinux.org/
> >
> >
> > B)  Distro with ZFS root support (at install time)?
> >
> > No distro install supports this yet as I've seen. Although the do it
> > yourself ubuntu guide is lengthy, but very well detailed.
> >
> > https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS
> >
> > Arch also support ZFS root, but their installation is all largely
> > manual to begin with.
> >
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_Arch_Linux_on_ZFS
> >
> >
> > ## Couple of my own Questions
> >
> > 1) Why root (/) on ZFS, what is your use case / risk your trying to
> > mitigate?
> >
> >
> > On 2018-08-24 02:26 PM, right.maple.nut via talk wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Like the Subject Line says, I'm setting up a ZFS File Server for my
> > > Home Network.
> > >
> > > Given that I will have to go to the trouble of setting up the Distro
> > > and Migrating the Linux Install to ZFS Root, I don't want to have to
> > > do this too many times.
> > >
> > > So, which Distro are the favourite for Running ZFS-on-Linux?
> > >
> > > Also, is there such a thing as a Linux Distro that is smart enough to
> > > give you a choice if you are willing to use non-GPL'ed code in the
> > > Installer, so that I can just Install Directly on a ZFS Pool?
> > >
> > > Thank You in Advance for your Input.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Amos
> > >
> > >
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Re: [GTALUG] Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint

2018-08-28 Thread William Park via talk
Thanks for the links.  For the bluetooth model, 
- does the battery really last 1 month?  
- is it bluetooth only, or can you use USB on it?

I'm looking for something I can carry between work and home, and
use for laptop and desktop.
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
> I've had a number of folks express interest after seeing me use mine.
> So I'm just going to drop the links here for general reference.
> 
> Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
> 
> https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823218058CVF
> https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47189
> 
> The also make a USB only version, which I have two of as daily drivers for
> at home and work.
> https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47190
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[GTALUG] Any good analog phone?

2018-08-28 Thread William Park via talk
Hi all,

Do you know where I can buy a good quality analog phone, with
- corded (no battery)
- caller id
- voicemail not required

CanadaComputers has only VTech brand, which is what I have now and what
I want to replace.  I'm not too keen on Panasonic brand, from past
experience.
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Re: [GTALUG] Which Distro is Best for Running a ZFS-on-Linux Fileserver.

2018-08-28 Thread Alvin Starr via talk

At the risk of poking the bear.

Why use ZFS at all?

ext4,XFS+LVM will do most all of the same things and from what I have 
read ZFS is slower than ext4,XFS and BTRFS.



On 08/28/2018 05:18 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote:
Having read through the thread to date, I'm actually a little 
disappointed at the number of linux users pushing towards a Solaris or 
BSD for ZFS.


My primary File servers (4 of them) are all using ZFS for their data 
partitions.



Amos,

## Couple of Answers to your questions

A) Disto?

I regularly run ZFS on CentOS and Fedora on a mix of SSDs and HDDs of 
both the internal and external varieties. Fedora has some caveats, 
only in that sometimes the kernel releases get ahead of what the ZFS 
on linux team will support. And it's just a matter of waiting on a 
working kernel zfs combination a week or two for them to catch up.


But frankly, just pick your favorite distro and follow the relevant 
getting started guide.


https://zfsonlinux.org/


B)  Distro with ZFS root support (at install time)?

No distro install supports this yet as I've seen. Although the do it 
yourself ubuntu guide is lengthy, but very well detailed.


https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS

Arch also support ZFS root, but their installation is all largely 
manual to begin with.


https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_Arch_Linux_on_ZFS


## Couple of my own Questions

1) Why root (/) on ZFS, what is your use case / risk your trying to 
mitigate?



On 2018-08-24 02:26 PM, right.maple.nut via talk wrote:


Hello All,

Like the Subject Line says, I'm setting up a ZFS File Server for my 
Home Network.


Given that I will have to go to the trouble of setting up the Distro 
and Migrating the Linux Install to ZFS Root, I don't want to have to 
do this too many times.


So, which Distro are the favourite for Running ZFS-on-Linux?

Also, is there such a thing as a Linux Distro that is smart enough to 
give you a choice if you are willing to use non-GPL'ed code in the 
Installer, so that I can just Install Directly on a ZFS Pool?


Thank You in Advance for your Input.

Regards,
Amos



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Re: [GTALUG] Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint

2018-08-28 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk

Thanks for this, Scott

What does the trackpoint do under Android?

- Evan


On August 28, 2018 18:36:28 Scott Sullivan via talk  wrote:


I've had a number of folks express interest after seeing me use mine.
So I'm just going to drop the links here for general reference.

Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823218058CVF
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47189

The also make a USB only version, which I have two of as daily drivers
for at home and work.
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47190

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[GTALUG] Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint

2018-08-28 Thread Scott Sullivan via talk

I've had a number of folks express interest after seeing me use mine.
So I'm just going to drop the links here for general reference.

Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823218058CVF
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47189

The also make a USB only version, which I have two of as daily drivers 
for at home and work.

https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47190

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Re: [GTALUG] Which Distro is Best for Running a ZFS-on-Linux Fileserver.

2018-08-28 Thread Scott Sullivan via talk
Having read through the thread to date, I'm actually a little 
disappointed at the number of linux users pushing towards a Solaris or 
BSD for ZFS.


My primary File servers (4 of them) are all using ZFS for their data 
partitions.



Amos,

## Couple of Answers to your questions

A) Disto?

I regularly run ZFS on CentOS and Fedora on a mix of SSDs and HDDs of 
both the internal and external varieties. Fedora has some caveats, only 
in that sometimes the kernel releases get ahead of what the ZFS on linux 
team will support. And it's just a matter of waiting on a working kernel 
zfs combination a week or two for them to catch up.


But frankly, just pick your favorite distro and follow the relevant 
getting started guide.


https://zfsonlinux.org/


B)  Distro with ZFS root support (at install time)?

No distro install supports this yet as I've seen. Although the do it 
yourself ubuntu guide is lengthy, but very well detailed.


https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS

Arch also support ZFS root, but their installation is all largely manual 
to begin with.


https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_Arch_Linux_on_ZFS


## Couple of my own Questions

1) Why root (/) on ZFS, what is your use case / risk your trying to 
mitigate?



On 2018-08-24 02:26 PM, right.maple.nut via talk wrote:


Hello All,

Like the Subject Line says, I'm setting up a ZFS File Server for my Home 
Network.


Given that I will have to go to the trouble of setting up the Distro and 
Migrating the Linux Install to ZFS Root, I don't want to have to do this 
too many times.


So, which Distro are the favourite for Running ZFS-on-Linux?

Also, is there such a thing as a Linux Distro that is smart enough to 
give you a choice if you are willing to use non-GPL'ed code in the 
Installer, so that I can just Install Directly on a ZFS Pool?


Thank You in Advance for your Input.

Regards,
Amos



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