Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
Thanks, I'll keep this information handy. The password I lost is to 'authenticate' to allow certain changes once logged in. Attivato lun, ago 3, 2020 alle 20:27, Russell Reiter ha scritto: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:08 PM Astrid R via talk wrote: > >> Thanks. Here's a short video that shows what happens when I turn on the >> laptop. I hope it's clear enough to be helpful. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zsss7a5pnu0emwu/IMG_1210.MOV?dl=0 > > Got some info from that. You are running Debian release Wheezy. Boot seems > normal, directly to your user, without a login manager in between and the > Network Manager icon is in the system tray, right beside your name Astrid > Rammo. You appear to be running the Gnome desktop. > > When you say you forgot your password, do you mean your user login password. > Automation in graphical logins kind of does that to you. As a user you can > edit the grub boot lines for either the regular kernel and invoke a root > shell, or the recovery kernel in order to boot into a setup menu and set > whatever login passwords you need to. > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/92556/how-do-i-boot-into-a-root-shell > > There is a link with some wifi setup info here, but if you are not > comfortable with using shell commands, this information is not going to be > much help. > > I haven't touched wheezy for a few years now so I don't remember exactly how > to navigate through network management. > > Maybe someone currently using Debian could help you walk through this. > > https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse > >> Attivato lun, ago 3, 2020 alle 16:55, Howard Gibson ha >> scritto: >> >>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:43:40 + >>> Astrid R via talk wrote: >>> Thanks for your replies. Before I go on I should say I discovered that I no longer have the password to change the date and time, so it might not be possible to change anything else either. But in case there might be a way, I hope the following is useful. I'm using a Dell laptop. Not sure if this is the distribution and release...GNU Grub 1.99-27 +deb 7u2... >>> >>> Astrid, >>> >>> When your GNI login window comes up, does it say Debian, or Ubuntu? >>> Next to the username and password box, you should see a menu that >>> selects your desktop. If you pull this down, you should see Gnome, >>> Unity, XFCE, LXDM, or possibly FVWM. I, and a bunch of other people >>> here, love FVWM, but I highly do not recommend it for beginners. >>> >>> When you log into Gnome or Unity, you pull the menu down at the top >>> right-hand side of your screen, and networking is one of the options. >>> You need to know what your wireless device is called, and you need the >>> password. >>> >>> -- >>> Howard Gibson >>> hgib...@eol.ca >>> jhowardgib...@gmail.com >>> http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson >> >> --- >> Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org >> Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > -- > > Russell--- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:08 PM Astrid R via talk wrote: > Thanks. Here's a short video that shows what happens when I turn on the > laptop. I hope it's clear enough to be helpful. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/zsss7a5pnu0emwu/IMG_1210.MOV?dl=0 > Got some info from that. You are running Debian release Wheezy. Boot seems normal, directly to your user, without a login manager in between and the Network Manager icon is in the system tray, right beside your name Astrid Rammo. You appear to be running the Gnome desktop. When you say you forgot your password, do you mean your user login password. Automation in graphical logins kind of does that to you. As a user you can edit the grub boot lines for either the regular kernel and invoke a root shell, or the recovery kernel in order to boot into a setup menu and set whatever login passwords you need to. https://askubuntu.com/questions/92556/how-do-i-boot-into-a-root-shell There is a link with some wifi setup info here, but if you are not comfortable with using shell commands, this information is not going to be much help. I haven't touched wheezy for a few years now so I don't remember exactly how to navigate through network management. Maybe someone currently using Debian could help you walk through this. https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse > > > Attivato lun, ago 3, 2020 alle 16:55, Howard Gibson ha > scritto: > > On Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:43:40 + > Astrid R via talk wrote: > > > Thanks for your replies. Before I go on I should say I discovered that I > no longer have the password to change the date and time, so it might not be > possible to change anything else either. > > > > But in case there might be a way, I hope the following is useful. > > > > I'm using a Dell laptop. > > > > Not sure if this is the distribution and release...GNU Grub 1.99-27 +deb > 7u2... > > Astrid, > > When your GNI login window comes up, does it say Debian, or Ubuntu? > Next to the username and password box, you should see a menu that > selects your desktop. If you pull this down, you should see Gnome, > Unity, XFCE, LXDM, or possibly FVWM. I, and a bunch of other people > here, love FVWM, but I highly do not recommend it for beginners. > > When you log into Gnome or Unity, you pull the menu down at the top > right-hand side of your screen, and networking is one of the options. > You need to know what your wireless device is called, and you need the > password. > > -- > Howard Gibson > hgib...@eol.ca > jhowardgib...@gmail.com > http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson > > > > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > -- Russell --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
On 8/3/20 5:07 PM, Astrid R via talk wrote: Thanks. Here's a short video that shows what happens when I turn on the laptop. I hope it's clear enough to be helpful. Sorry, but there was nothing useful in that. Does your computer not start a desktop with icons? On my computers, I run the KDE desktop and have a task bar along the bottom of the display. There are several along it, including one for the Network Manager. That is the sort of thing we need to be able to help. Perhaps one of us here can arrange for a video chat, so we have some idea what we're working with. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
On 8/3/20 5:04 PM, Astrid R wrote: It's the password to change time and date on the laptop, that I've lost. That would be the root password for the computer. There are ways around that, but you need to be able to access the partition. Connecting to any WiFi is pretty simple. Most have a password. You select the WiFi network you want to connect to and then enter the password. Once you've done that, the connection will be remembered. The library will likewise have a password, but it may be tied to your library card number. You'll have to ask the library what that is. Please note, I see you're using a Debian based distro and I use openSUSE, so I can't give you specific details, only general ideas. Are you using a Network Manager? This will allow you to have several different connection configurations, which you can select from, but WiFi generally just works. I'm getting the impression you have difficulty working with a computer. Do you have vision problems that cause that? --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
Thanks. Here's a short video that shows what happens when I turn on the laptop. I hope it's clear enough to be helpful. https://www.dropbox.com/s/zsss7a5pnu0emwu/IMG_1210.MOV?dl=0 Attivato lun, ago 3, 2020 alle 16:55, Howard Gibson ha scritto: > On Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:43:40 + > Astrid R via talk wrote: > >> Thanks for your replies. Before I go on I should say I discovered that I no >> longer have the password to change the date and time, so it might not be >> possible to change anything else either. >> >> But in case there might be a way, I hope the following is useful. >> >> I'm using a Dell laptop. >> >> Not sure if this is the distribution and release...GNU Grub 1.99-27 +deb >> 7u2... > > Astrid, > > When your GNI login window comes up, does it say Debian, or Ubuntu? > Next to the username and password box, you should see a menu that > selects your desktop. If you pull this down, you should see Gnome, > Unity, XFCE, LXDM, or possibly FVWM. I, and a bunch of other people > here, love FVWM, but I highly do not recommend it for beginners. > > When you log into Gnome or Unity, you pull the menu down at the top > right-hand side of your screen, and networking is one of the options. > You need to know what your wireless device is called, and you need the > password. > > -- > Howard Gibson > hgib...@eol.ca > jhowardgib...@gmail.com > http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson--- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
Ok thanks for that information. I was hoping I could use the laptop with my wifi, wirelessly, so I don't have to be so close to the modem when I'm using the laptop. Years ago when I still had the DSL with the laptop I tried to use wifi at a library and got a message on the screen that I had to change the setting first. I know the wifi password. It's the password to change time and date on the laptop, that I've lost. Attivato lun, ago 3, 2020 alle 16:53, James Knott via talk ha scritto: > On 8/3/20 4:43 PM, Astrid R via talk wrote: >> I don't have DSL anymore, nor the modem or router I used when I did >> have it (I was using an ethernet cable) and I now have a different ISP >> (for the wifi): rogers. The rogers modem is called 'ignite'. I'm >> trying to use rogers wifi at home on my laptop which only ever used >> DSL before. I'm already using wifi at home on my phone. >> >> On the desktop I don't see any way of connecting to wifi. > > Since you're on Rogers, you will have a modem. You connect to it with > an Ethernet cable, just as you did with DSL. You just connect the cable > from your computer to the modem and it should just work. As for the WiFi > password, you can always get Rogers to reset it, but you'd then have to > change it on the phone too. Did you set the password? Or did someone > else? If someone else, they may remember what it is. > > As I mentioned, you might be using the Network Manager to configure your > network connections. If so, you can have both WiFi and Ethernet > connections. By default, WiFi would be used, if the Ethernet cable is > not connected. If it is, Ethernet will be used. If you're not using > Network Manager, you will have some manual configuration, which will > vary by Linux distribution > --- > Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org > Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk--- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
On Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:43:40 + Astrid R via talk wrote: > Thanks for your replies. Before I go on I should say I discovered that I no > longer have the password to change the date and time, so it might not be > possible to change anything else either. > > But in case there might be a way, I hope the following is useful. > > I'm using a Dell laptop. > > Not sure if this is the distribution and release...GNU Grub 1.99-27 +deb > 7u2... Astrid, When your GNI login window comes up, does it say Debian, or Ubuntu? Next to the username and password box, you should see a menu that selects your desktop. If you pull this down, you should see Gnome, Unity, XFCE, LXDM, or possibly FVWM. I, and a bunch of other people here, love FVWM, but I highly do not recommend it for beginners. When you log into Gnome or Unity, you pull the menu down at the top right-hand side of your screen, and networking is one of the options. You need to know what your wireless device is called, and you need the password. -- Howard Gibson hgib...@eol.ca jhowardgib...@gmail.com http://home.eol.ca/~hgibson --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
On 8/3/20 4:43 PM, Astrid R via talk wrote: I don't have DSL anymore, nor the modem or router I used when I did have it (I was using an ethernet cable) and I now have a different ISP (for the wifi): rogers. The rogers modem is called 'ignite'. I'm trying to use rogers wifi at home on my laptop which only ever used DSL before. I'm already using wifi at home on my phone. On the desktop I don't see any way of connecting to wifi. Since you're on Rogers, you will have a modem. You connect to it with an Ethernet cable, just as you did with DSL. You just connect the cable from your computer to the modem and it should just work. As for the WiFi password, you can always get Rogers to reset it, but you'd then have to change it on the phone too. Did you set the password? Or did someone else? If someone else, they may remember what it is. As I mentioned, you might be using the Network Manager to configure your network connections. If so, you can have both WiFi and Ethernet connections. By default, WiFi would be used, if the Ethernet cable is not connected. If it is, Ethernet will be used. If you're not using Network Manager, you will have some manual configuration, which will vary by Linux distribution --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] DSL to wifi
Thanks for your replies. Before I go on I should say I discovered that I no longer have the password to change the date and time, so it might not be possible to change anything else either. But in case there might be a way, I hope the following is useful. I'm using a Dell laptop. Not sure if this is the distribution and release...GNU Grub 1.99-27 +deb 7u2... Using wifi at home. I don't have DSL anymore, nor the modem or router I used when I did have it (I was using an ethernet cable) and I now have a different ISP (for the wifi): rogers. The rogers modem is called 'ignite'. I'm trying to use rogers wifi at home on my laptop which only ever used DSL before. I'm already using wifi at home on my phone. On the desktop I don't see any way of connecting to wifi. > example: > > - what computer are you using? > > - what OS (Linux, I assume), Distribution and release (eg. Ubuntu > 18.04) are you using? > > - where do you want to use WiFi? > > - if you have DSL, you probably have a box supplied by the ISP that > provides you ethernet and WiFi. Technically these are a combination > of a "modem" and a "wireless router". Are you trying to switch your > computer from using a wired connection to wireless, still within > your home? > > - Who is your ISP? What model of box did they provide you? > > - if you are trying to use WiFi within your home, have you set up the > ISP's box? It too needs configuration. Your ISP would probably > have given you a manual that tries to guide you through this > process. If you've lost it, you can probably find a copy on the > web. > > - what have you tried? What problems have you encountered? Attivato dom, ago 2, 2020 alle 09:39, D. Hugh Redelmeier ha scritto: > | From: James Knott via talk > > | On 8/1/20 7:28 PM, Astrid R via talk wrote: > | > I'm just looking for someone in downtown Toronto to change the settings on > | > my laptop from DSL to wifi. I can only pay up to $40. > | > | It's not hard to connect to WiFi. All you need is the password. Assuming > | you're using Network Manager you can find the WiFi you want to use, select > it > | and enter the password. You can leave the DSL connection, in case you need > it > | again later. > > James is quite right. But I infer from your message that you are > encountering some difficulty. > > We may be able to help you on this mailing list if you give us enough > information. For example: > > - what computer are you using? > > - what OS (Linux, I assume), Distribution and release (eg. Ubuntu > 18.04) are you using? > > - where do you want to use WiFi? > > - if you have DSL, you probably have a box supplied by the ISP that > provides you ethernet and WiFi. Technically these are a combination > of a "modem" and a "wireless router". Are you trying to switch your > computer from using a wired connection to wireless, still within > your home? > > - Who is your ISP? What model of box did they provide you? > > - if you are trying to use WiFi within your home, have you set up the > ISP's box? It too needs configuration. Your ISP would probably > have given you a manual that tries to guide you through this > process. If you've lost it, you can probably find a copy on the > web. > > - what have you tried? What problems have you encountered?--- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
