Re: [GTALUG] Dell servers for cheap

2019-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 06:08:27AM -0500, o1bigtenor via talk wrote:
> I bought one a couple years ago, not quite as cheaply as listed previously
> though, and can add that it is possible to put a SATA drive into the bays
> you are limited to a hard 2 TB limit (would guess that its related to 32 bit
> access somehow).

2TB is 2^32 512 byte sectors.

But yes SATA drives should work, if it is a machine with 3.5" drives,
rather than 2.5" drives that some of them use.

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Re: [GTALUG] Dell servers for cheap

2019-04-09 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:32 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
>
> | From: Stewart C. Russell via talk 
>
> | via Seneca:
>
> Thanks.  I always like to hear about this kind of thing.
>
> | == Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers
> |
> | - quantity available: 22 units
> | - some with 2x dual core processors, others with 1x dual core processor
> | - 4GB RAM (8x512MB; only a few have more RAM)
> | - some have PERC RAID controllers
> | - rack mounting rails included
> | - a few fibre channel HBAs may be available
> | - limited quantity of sleds for Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) drives are 
> available
> | - specs: 
> https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2950_specs.pdf
>
> I think that the newest processors that these could have were
> discontinued 10 years ago.  And they take a lot of power.  For
> example, the Xeon X5365 (pure guess at a best case) takes 150W by
> itself.
>
> Beware of noise.  Rackmount servers are best kept in server rooms.
>
> 4GiB RAM is a little light these days, especially for servers.  Memory
> is FBD (not consumer stuff).  There are no free slots.  Replacement
> memory might well be cheap on ebay or kijiji since it is well past its
> prime -- I haven't looked.
>
> SAS drives are expensive and there's probably not much to recommend
> them for our home labs.  Consider: 73GB SAS drive for $20 vs. a 120G
> SATA SSD for $24.99 (current Newegg.ca sale; $4.99 shipping).  I think
> that these boxes can only support SATA with an added controller.
> ---

I bought one a couple years ago, not quite as cheaply as listed previously
though, and can add that it is possible to put a SATA drive into the bays
you are limited to a hard 2 TB limit (would guess that its related to 32 bit
access somehow).

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Re: [GTALUG] Dell servers for cheap

2019-04-09 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk 

| via Seneca:

Thanks.  I always like to hear about this kind of thing.

| == Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers
| 
| - quantity available: 22 units
| - some with 2x dual core processors, others with 1x dual core processor
| - 4GB RAM (8x512MB; only a few have more RAM)
| - some have PERC RAID controllers
| - rack mounting rails included
| - a few fibre channel HBAs may be available 
| - limited quantity of sleds for Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) drives are 
available
| - specs: 
https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2950_specs.pdf

I think that the newest processors that these could have were
discontinued 10 years ago.  And they take a lot of power.  For
example, the Xeon X5365 (pure guess at a best case) takes 150W by
itself.

Beware of noise.  Rackmount servers are best kept in server rooms.

4GiB RAM is a little light these days, especially for servers.  Memory
is FBD (not consumer stuff).  There are no free slots.  Replacement
memory might well be cheap on ebay or kijiji since it is well past its
prime -- I haven't looked.

SAS drives are expensive and there's probably not much to recommend
them for our home labs.  Consider: 73GB SAS drive for $20 vs. a 120G
SATA SSD for $24.99 (current Newegg.ca sale; $4.99 shipping).  I think
that these boxes can only support SATA with an added controller.
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[GTALUG] Dell servers for cheap

2019-04-08 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
via Seneca:

Please email Lev Piaseckyj at l...@masterfile.com to arrange pickup or with 
questions.

== Dell PowerEdge 2950 servers

- quantity available: 22 units
- some with 2x dual core processors, others with 1x dual core processor
- 4GB RAM (8x512MB; only a few have more RAM)
- some have PERC RAID controllers
- rack mounting rails included
- a few fibre channel HBAs may be available 
- limited quantity of sleds for Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) drives are available
- specs: https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/en/2950_specs.pdf

Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with ONE dual core processor - $80 each

Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with TWO dual core processors - $100 each

SAS Hard Drives for PE2950
- 73GB 15k Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) drives
- quantity available: 29 units
- $20 each wiped (to recover cost of wiping)

== Also available:

- many older Dell servers: PE2850, PE2750, PE2650, PE1750 with rails

- many 19” Dell LCD monitors (models 1908FP, 1907FP, 1905FP) and a few 21"

- APC AP7960 Switched Rack PDUs (Power Distribution Units)
https://toronto.craigslist.org/tor/ele/d/north-york-apc-ap7960-switched-rack/6846874582.html

- McDATA Sphereon 4500 Fabric Switch (fibre channel)
https://toronto.craigslist.org/tor/sop/d/north-york-mcdata-sphereon-4500-fabric/6861112354.html

- 3com SuperStack 4500 50-port ethernet switches
https://toronto.craigslist.org/tor/sop/d/north-york-3com-superstack-port/6861133481.html

- Dell 4210 Server Rack Enclosure, 19” x 42U
https://toronto.craigslist.org/tor/sys/d/north-york-dell-4210-server-rack/6846844333.html

- Dell ML6000 tape library with 2 expansion modules
- Dell ML6000 tape library with 1 expansion module
- Dell PowerVault 136T tape library
- older Cisco ethernet switches, Catalyst 2950, 2960, 3550, 3560
- older 3com 4400 series ethernet switches
- older Belkin KVMs
- old small Wacom tablets
- many computer speakers
- many power cables, ethernet cables, power bars

Everything would have to be picked up at Masterfile offices, near Eglinton & 
Wynford Drive.

Please email Lev Piaseckyj at l...@masterfile.com to arrange pickup or with 
questions.

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