Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-09 Thread Michael Galea via talk

On 2020-10-09 10:00 a.m., Scott Allen via talk wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:

When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the
house and ran one wire to the modem and the rest of the phone jacks in
the house to the filtered side.


The same for my mother's house, when recently upgraded from 6/1 to
15/10 speeds. (Although, I ran the separate wire for the modem myself
in anticipation of the upgrade.)



In my upgrade to VDSL2 at 15/10, Bell supplied an integrated splitter 
with an internal filter (marked "Comtest networks VDSL/2+"). I had 
terrible line quality and complained to teksavvy. Teksavvy got Bell 
involved who, promptly:
- discovered I was missing "termination impedance's" at the DSLAM (red 
herring),

- decided my cable was old, and replaced it (nope),
- left my home one time without connecting my phone line to anything 
(after telling me he had fixed the problem and tested it!),

- had 3 different Bell techs and two teksavvy techs at different times,
- played games at the DSLAM adjusting my service profile.

The last Bell guy was a pro and followed my DSL down the street to a 
broken overhead pod, where my cable was exposed to the elements! He 
fixed that and VDSL has been rock solid ever since.


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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-09 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:
> When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the
> house and ran one wire to the modem and the rest of the phone jacks in
> the house to the filtered side.

The same for my mother's house, when recently upgraded from 6/1 to
15/10 speeds. (Although, I ran the separate wire for the modem myself
in anticipation of the upgrade.)

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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 11:15:55PM -0400, James Knott via talk wrote:
> Yes, you'd normally have one at each phone, unless one is wired in ahead of
> all the phones.  That's common in business, but not sure about homes.

When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the
house and ran one wire to the modem and the rest of the phone jacks in
the house to the filtered side.  So pretty common these days it seems.

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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-09 Thread Alvin Starr via talk

On 10/8/20 10:38 PM, Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:

Hi folks,
Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative.
Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution.
I am assuming that your phone is powered and not an old style passive 
line powered phone.
If that is the case then it is possible that your getting interference 
from something other than the physical line.


If you can try turning off the Bell WIFI and see if that affects your 
clicking.


For my own case I never use a ISP provided modem in anything other than 
bridge mode and use my own equipment that I control for routing and 
firewalling.



Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites 
service as well, but  that is not the issue really.
Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my 
adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by 
Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend.
Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect 
more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless 
be able to do this with little fanfare.

Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup.
anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with 
one that  causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking 
noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time.
What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found 
prospect, with  several Ethernet ports the ability to connect 
wirelessly, yet being a tw model.

My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell.


Likely Speedstream.
Bell provided Speedstream modems at one point but that was years ago and 
I have a hand full of them left from my ISP days.
There are a hand full of alternate modem suppliers you can use but most 
times it is just cheaper to take the ISP provided one.

Some can be purchased through places like CanadaComputers.

I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of 
them messing  up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue.

Any bell modem ideas come to mind?
why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first 
place?

There is no obligation for you to use bell equipment.
Bell cannot fix someone else's equipment so if you want a single point 
of repair then you may want to stick with Bell.
I think Bell may still force you to pay for  their modems as part of 
their install service but in the past I just put the equipment on a 
shelf for return when I terminated the service.


Providers like TekSavvy can provide landlines and internet usually at a 
price less than Bells.
Most cannot provide satellite service but do offer TV over their 
internet service.



Kare the ranter.


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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-08 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
Karen,

   I am on Primus for DSL and land line.   This service comes in through Bell's 
phone lines.

   When I installed Primus' DSL modem, admittedly quite a few years ago, I was 
sent a filter for each of my connections.   I have a 56K Hayes style modem, 
which does not work unless I turn off the DSL modem.  Otherwise, everything 
works fine.   

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 23:10:45 -0400 (EDT)
Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:

> By filter, do you mean those little  thingies  one could put  on the phone 
> to prevent interference?
> When bell moved me here they claimed I did not need them, but I will dig 
> one out to see if it helps.
> Bell techs have checked the lines to my apartment, the jack itself,  and 
> the cables being used.
> not sure what might be more local.
> The filter replacement is a fine idea.
> Kare
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020, James Knott via talk wrote:
> 
> > The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)?  When 
> > you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the phone and 
> > modems 
> > from interfering with each other.  If that's not the problem, call Bell.  
> > Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's not something local?
> >
> >
> > On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:
> >>  Hi folks,
> >>  Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative.
> >>  Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution.
> >>  Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites
> >>  service as well, but  that is not the issue really.
> >>  Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive
> >>  technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or
> >>  two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend.
> >>  Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect
> >>  more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be
> >>  able to do this with little fanfare.
> >>  Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup.
> >>  anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one
> >>  that  causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise
> >>  whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time.
> >>  What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect,
> >>  with  several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being
> >>  a tw model.
> >>  My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell.
> >>  I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them
> >>  messing  up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue.
> >>  Any bell modem ideas come to mind?
> >>  why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first
> >>  place?
> >>  Kare the ranter.
> >> 
> >>
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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-08 Thread James Knott via talk
Yes, you'd normally have one at each phone, unless one is wired in ahead 
of all the phones.  That's common in business, but not sure about homes.



On 2020-10-08 11:10 p.m., Karen Lewellen wrote:
By filter, do you mean those little  thingies  one could put  on the 
phone to prevent interference?
When bell moved me here they claimed I did not need them, but I will 
dig one out to see if it helps.
Bell techs have checked the lines to my apartment, the jack itself,  
and the cables being used.

not sure what might be more local.
The filter replacement is a fine idea.
Kare



On Thu, 8 Oct 2020, James Knott via talk wrote:

The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)?  
When you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the 
phone and modems from interfering with each other.  If that's not the 
problem, call Bell.  Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's 
not something local?



On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:

 Hi folks,
 Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative.
 Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution.
 Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites
 service as well, but  that is not the issue really.
 Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my 
adaptive
 technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a 
tw or

 two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend.
 Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect
 more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using 
wireless be

 able to do this with little fanfare.
 Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup.
 anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with 
one
 that  causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking 
noise

 whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time.
 What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found 
prospect,
 with  several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet 
being

 a tw model.
 My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell.
 I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three 
of them

 messing  up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue.
 Any bell modem ideas come to mind?
 why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first
 place?
 Kare the ranter.


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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-08 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
By filter, do you mean those little  thingies  one could put  on the phone 
to prevent interference?
When bell moved me here they claimed I did not need them, but I will dig 
one out to see if it helps.
Bell techs have checked the lines to my apartment, the jack itself,  and 
the cables being used.

not sure what might be more local.
The filter replacement is a fine idea.
Kare



On Thu, 8 Oct 2020, James Knott via talk wrote:

The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)?  When 
you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the phone and modems 
from interfering with each other.  If that's not the problem, call Bell.  
Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's not something local?



On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:

 Hi folks,
 Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative.
 Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution.
 Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites
 service as well, but  that is not the issue really.
 Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive
 technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or
 two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend.
 Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect
 more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be
 able to do this with little fanfare.
 Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup.
 anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one
 that  causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise
 whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time.
 What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect,
 with  several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being
 a tw model.
 My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell.
 I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them
 messing  up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue.
 Any bell modem ideas come to mind?
 why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first
 place?
 Kare the ranter.


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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-08 Thread James Knott via talk
The modem shouldn't be making noise. Is the filter on the phone(s)?  
When you have ADSL on a phone line, filters are used to keep the phone 
and modems from interfering with each other.  If that's not the problem, 
call Bell.  Also, have you done any testing to ensure it's not something 
local?



On 2020-10-08 10:38 p.m., Karen Lewellen via talk wrote:

Hi folks,
Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative.
Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution.
Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites 
service as well, but  that is not the issue really.
Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my 
adaptive technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by 
Bell is a tw or two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend.
Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect 
more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless 
be able to do this with little fanfare.

Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup.
anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with 
one that  causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking 
noise whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time.
What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found 
prospect, with  several Ethernet ports the ability to connect 
wirelessly, yet being a tw model.

My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell.
I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of 
them messing  up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue.

Any bell modem ideas come to mind?
why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first 
place?

Kare the ranter.


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[GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

2020-10-08 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk

Hi folks,
Hope you all are finding ways to feel creative.
Wondering if anyone might have a suggestion providing a solution.
Bell is my dsl provider, they also provide my land line and satellites 
service as well, but  that is not the issue really.
Because I still use analog phone service, its tied to some of my adaptive 
technology, my dsl modem / rooter combination provided by Bell is a tw or 
two wire model...or at least it was until this weekend.
Honestly I am not a major user of data, but I do often need to connect 
more than one Ethernet setup, and require that someone using wireless be 
able to do this with little fanfare.

Largely because none of bell's software works for my setup.
anyway, the problem is that bell has replaced my beloved modem with one 
that  causes my landline to click, as in makes a constant clicking noise 
whenever the modem is connected, which is all the time.
What I am seeking is hopefully an older, but still to be found prospect, 
with  several Ethernet ports the ability to connect wirelessly, yet being 
a tw model.

My old one had stream in the title if that rings a..bell.
I have literary had 5 technicians here since Saturday, with three of them 
messing  up my Internet on top of not addressing the issue.

Any bell modem ideas come to mind?
why on earth by the way, must I only use bell equipment in the first 
place?

Kare the ranter.


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