I have had enough
Hi Listers, I have had enough doing battle with Windows 10 wanting to update my system every couple of hours. So, it is time to stop it in its tracks before I loose my cool. A couple of weeks ago there was mention of a file in two formats to deal with this pest. I thought I had saved the messages to a safe place but now can't locate them. Could someone please post the info once again so I can deliver this pest a mortal blow. Also some details on how to use the file would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: can't get miranda ng to work under win 10
well, that's too go hear, what i am having a problem getting to is the settings. When i do control shift A, all itt says is miranda ng. When i press the alt key it literally says nothing. Any ideas how to get to the main setup screen On 3/16/2016 3:58 PM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: Well, I'm currently signed into Facebook chat using Miranda NG. I think some of you guys might be using Miranda IM, instead of NG which is the more recent version of Miranda. Facebook chat works just fine. I'm not able to reliably connect to Aim, however. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Miranda NG should most certainly work with Windows 10. I don't see why it wouldn't. On 3/16/2016 12:35 PM, Davy Cuppens via Talk wrote: Hi I can reproduce this. Moreover, if you are intending to use Miranda for fb chat like most of us did, This is nolonger possible. FB closed all its services for third party chat bots. Regards Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jed Barton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:30 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: can't get miranda ng to work under win 10 Hey guys, Well i installed miranda ng, but the main window doesn't seem to come up under win 10, any ideas? i changed the hotkey to control shift Z but no go, any thoughts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/davycuppens%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jed%40jedbarton.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
F-8 Related Question
Someone on this list gave some good advice regarding short cuts for copying a URL within an e-mail.M Most e-mails I receive with URLs have the link imbedded so I can simply click on the link. However, sometimes it's just the URL so I have to copy the URL. I used to copy that URL using f-8 and the right arrow key. Now I hit f-8 twice. However, when I hit f-8 twice, instead of getting a You-tube link, I get: hs.windows.microsoft.com/hhweb/content/m-en-US/p-6.3/id06f72b12-a5ac-4b58-87ae-9e6de3419916/?sku=101 Here's the Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBvagVZag_Q ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: strange question
Hi Linda, If what I saw you are running windows 8.0, please take advantage of the free windows 10 and do it as soon as possible. I had windows 8.0 and upgraded for free to windows 8.1 which was an improvement, but now I have upgraded to windows 10, since it is far better than windows 8 or 8.1. you will have mmuch fewer issues with windows 10. windows 8 sucked big time! Regards, roger -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Linette Sukup via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:45 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: strange question When I turn on the computer and Window-Eyes announces itself, it says something that sounds like "percepta drive tray window." What does this mean? HP Pavilion laptop, Windows 8, most recent version of WE. Peace. Linette ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/aistech%40amer itech.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Becky and WE 9.4
Hi, I'd start by making sure your Window is maximized. I just tried it under windows 10 and 9.4 and it worked for me, it did make a difference when I maximized the window. Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 1:01 AM To: A I Squared Support List Subject: Becky and WE 9.4 Hello, I have been using Becky for an Email Program. Just the other day, Becky or WE 9.4 started not reading the message area in Becky. I can read a few words of a line, then nothing. Arrow down another line or two, and WE will read a few more words. Does the same thing when I am writing an Email, and then attempt to read what I have written. Sometimes if I Maximize or Restore Becky, I can read the text until I edit something. Once that change has taken place, I can no longer read an entire live of text. Reading is quite jumbled and will not read every line, and every word in a line of text. This just started happening. Before then, everything read fine. have I bumped some switch, or made a change by accident? Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
message the the eudora users out hear
Hi I seen yesterday meaning Tuesday. That people are using Eudora with window-eyes. So where do you get the version that works well with window-eyes? Also then once you go to the web site to get it? How then do you set it up so that when you open it? You go right to your inbox and can read and delete your e-mails from there? Also can you group messages by conversation if so how do you make it so you can have threads that you can open and close? One last thing is when you forward A message to someone? How do you take all of the information out of the message and only keep the message that you are forwarding and not all of the header information and the sent path and the return path and all of that showing in the message that you are sending? -- Casey ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Losing Touch, or do I still have it?
Dave, For me I think it depends on when you ask. Some days I feel access to software is better than ever. Then I find something that doesn’t work and I feel as you do. Thinking more deeply, the issue is that software and devices that employ it are far more pervasive than ten or fifteen years ago. The iPhone with Voice Over is a marvel I couldn’t imagine back when I started programming in the late 1970’s. On the Apple platforms, especially IOS, accessibility is better and available for more apps than ever. Does that mean it’s perfect? Of course not, there are always going to be apps that don’t work well for blind users. There are apps that by their very nature cannot do so. On the Windows platforms the emphasis has been to make them more like phones and tablets and this has hurt access. Microsoft has until recently, pulled back from their accessibility efforts, leaving features of Windows, internet browsing and office applications woefully inaccessible. Recent developments at Microsoft lead me to believe they’ve realized there are problems with accessibility and they are working to address them. A case in point is Microsoft now has a dozen or so developers working on accessibility issues for the MS Office suites. I still work for a software company and some of the packages they use are not very accessible. I believe this is due to many more low-cost choices for software companies can purchase. When cost is lower, some aspects of the software are lacking, often accessibility. I try to raise issues with the vendors when they arise but I must report only mixed success. Summing up, I think the choices we have for personal use provide better accessibility than ever. What we have to contend with in the work environment is far less positive. Regards, Stan Sent from my Mac Mini > On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:26 AM, via Talk wrote: > > Hello, > > I am curious about something. I have thought for a while now that > accessibility is either going backwards, or it is not keeping up with the new > changes coming in modern apps and programs. > > This isn't meant to be a slam at A I Squared, but I am wondering if this is > just my own misguided and inaccurate perception, or have any of the rest of > you noticed the same steps backwards, as I think I have. > > At a time when it appears as if accessibility is increasing, , when I examine > the topic closer, there are just more choices today, than in days past. > There is multiple versions of MS Windows, and now Apple has put Access in > their OS. The Iphone and other Smart phones have access, and the same for > Tablets. Even Lenox I've been told now has some support for reading its > screens. > > We have more Gadgets that have some Speech, but so far, the level of access > seems shallow. As long as you only use the basics of any given program, or > OS, you might be OK. But if you need to get in a make some deeper changes, > you might be hard pressed to make any such changes because you find the > access into those areas is just not there. > > I worked at a Computer Software company for a long time, and I was let go > when Cash flow was slowing up. If I had to go back and work there today, I > doubt if I could do so, because I do not have the access I once had. They > have changed the Phones system, and they are using software that I doubt if > any screen reader would read enough of it to make it usable by someone blind. > > > They now have three Databases, and one is an On-Line Database, and I doubt if > I could work fast enough to do my old job. > > Even before, I had to memorize a ton of stuff, and today, I would need to > memorize a lot more than before. > > So are those of us who are Blind experiencing less access these days than say > we did 10 or 15 years ago? > > I would say we have less, even though we have more choices today, the access > is shallower. > > Am I just a guy that is out of touch, or is what I think I see, an > observation others have noticed as well? > > > And don't worry about hurting my feelings. I hope I am wrong in my > assessment. > > Grumpy Dave > > P.S. And I may not be seeing Steps Backwards, but just that changes are > taking place so fast, that Screen reader builders can not keep up with these > changes? > > Or is it a bit of both. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sgowin%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-
Re: WE 9.4 and returning from sleep
Steve, You might have a point here. I have two laptops, one from Dell and one from Sony. They both run Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit and I am now running Window-Eyes 9.4. I have never had any problems coming out of Sleep or Hibernate modes with either of these machines. Chris From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:31 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: WE 9.4 and returning from sleep Interestingly, I have some of the same problems discussed here when coming out of sleep mode. Usually, I have found that entering the password even if Window-Eyes is silent, brings everything back. There are some other issues that I have once sleep mode has been encountered as well, though, even if the password works. What is interesting to me is that I also am using HP computers and Windows 7. I wonder if there is something with HP computers that is affecting this. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:17 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.4 and returning from sleep I'm on Windows 10/64 and Window-Eyes 9.4 and never have a problem with waking from sleep mode. So that's what they have to work with in this no two computers are alike world of today. Tom On 3/18/2016 10:59 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: > Running WE 9.4 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine on a HP laptop. > I have it set up to go into sleep mode when the lid is closed. With WE > 9.3 and now 9.4 WE is silent when opening the lid thus returning from > sleep mode. I reported this issue with WE 9.3 and now with 9.4 and got > no response from the support team. Guess it isn't high on the list of > things to fix with WE 9.3 as it still exists with 9.4. Sometimes you > can close the lid and open it again and WE starts and sometimes it > won't. Can use control alt w to restart WE however was told by the WE > staff that this still leaves WE in something less than normal mode. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cae2006%40hotmail.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: no programs starting under windows 10
Hi Jed, If you're selecting apps to launch through the Cortana search list, use up and down arrow keys to be sure that the item is properly selected. Indeed, use Control-Shift-S or Control-Numpad-5 to read the current item to be certain. As for the Messaging app, I've read about it on the web and it promises to be powerful in the future, but, at present, it is not fully intergrated into the operating system, as far as I can see. If you want to send text messages within Windows 10, I recommend Skype. There is a program called mysms which has an Android smart phone app, and what it does is allow you to read and send messages to and from your Android phone on your Windows desktop using the installed app. Apple has prevented the app from working with their devices. Again, this is what I know, and, of corse, others may know more. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk Sent: March 15, 2016 6:44 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: no programs starting under windows 10 Hey guys, Well, i'm going through the apps on here, when i bring up the list under win 10, and depress the enter key, it appears nothing is starting. Am i doing something wrong? I've tried miranda and the messaging app, and when i press alt tab it just says task switching. What's the secret? Alsok, is the messaging app accessible and what can i do with it ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
strange question
When I turn on the computer and Window-Eyes announces itself, it says something that sounds like "percepta drive tray window." What does this mean? HP Pavilion laptop, Windows 8, most recent version of WE. Peace. Linette ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Becky email and read to end
Now that I have 9.4, my read to end hot key, control-shift-r doesn't work. Any suggestions? www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Problems with WE and Windows10
Sorry if this message comes out a little garbled as I'm having one or two problems with WE since I upgraded to Windows 10 Home yesterday. I was using Windows7 with WE9.4. I upgraded to Windows10 and each time WE loaded I got a descending set of beeps which I've always assumed meant that WE had crashed. I had previously read the upgrade instructions which referred to the need to install WE9.2 in order to get back the Mirror driver. I did this, and the descending beeps stopped. I then upgraded to WE9.4 and am now having the same problem. Despite the descending tones as soon as WE starts, it appears to be working, although it has difficulties in Windows Explorer, running very slowly and sometimes crashing completely. Also, items in the start menu aren't always read correctly. By that I mean if I type in the search box and cursor down to go through the options, sometimes nothing is said. Also, in Outlook response from WE after pressing the tab key to move between email list, search area, etc. is sometimes very slow. Another problem in Outlook is that when a new message comes in, a notification pops up which reads the message. I'm guessing though this is a setting somewhere in Outlook, but I've got no idea how to stop this from happening, it never happened in Windows7 and Outlook 2013. Incidentaly I presume I'm still using Outlook2013? Perhaps Windows10 has defaulted to something else. Any help much appreciated. Yusuf ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox
Weird indeed, be it that a right click is the universal open the context menu command. I've never seen such before and would love to hear the logic behind it. Perhaps it's one of those multi-platform quirks. Tom On 3/18/2016 11:05 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Tom, It's weird alright, but it works that way. Smile. Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: March 18, 2016 12:04 PM To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox I've always used the Window-Eyes Insert-S, select Dropbox, and Alt-R to open the context menu. However it is a little strange in that when I do so it says "press enter to open the Dropbox menu." But obviously it's not a big deal. hth, Tom On 3/18/2016 10:28 AM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote: Richard, Unfortunately, there are variations in the Dropbox interface that were dependent upon the version. For a while, I avoided updating Dropbox because new versions were worse. Mostly, though, I feel I am best off with the current version and that might be worth a look. Having said that, though, there were versions of Dropbox that did not respond to Windows keystrokes when in the system tray, only responding to mouse clicks. You may have one of those versions. Routing your mouse to the Dropbox icon and then left clicking might open up the menu for you. Also, using the Window-Eyes interface to the system tray, INSERT S, might be easier. Since I don't have one of the versions of Dropbox that act this way, I can't tell you for certain whether you should left click or right click, but maybe this will get you started. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Richard Petty [mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:48 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox Steve, in my Windows 7, DropBox doesn't work that way in the System Tray. I've also gone to the list of programs in the start menu and tried to find preferences there, but without success. Are you aware of any other way to get to preferences? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 2:35 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox If you go to dropbox preferences on your computer, not on their website, there is an option to "Show Dropbox Badge." You may also hear the word "Down" indicating that you press the DOWN ARROW to change the option. Change this preference to "Never." For me, that eliminated all of the problems with Word and Excel files in my Dropbox folder. I get to preferences by finding Dropbox in the system tray, pressing SPACE which brings up a menu, and then DOWN ARROW until I get to Preferences. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox Dear all, I have problem with window-eyes 9.4 reading any Word documents from my dropbox folders. Encountering same problem with earlier version of window-eyes. The cursor is moving over the text on the documents, but window-eyes does not speak at all. I do not have this problem with NVDA. Using windows 8.1, MS Office 2007. Anyone can help. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.petty% 40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-wind
My side or yours
I've tried to download the new version and it gets to about 85% and then blows chunks. It boings and said "An error has occurred." Do you suppose this is my side or yours? Veronica ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.4 and returning from sleep
I do have this problem, and I believe it is specific to recent HP computers. However, mine is a desktop, not a laptop. Don Roberts From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 9:16 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.4 and returning from sleep I'm on Windows 10/64 and Window-Eyes 9.4 and never have a problem with waking from sleep mode. So that's what they have to work with in this no two computers are alike world of today. Tom On 3/18/2016 10:59 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: > Running WE 9.4 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine on a HP laptop. > I have it set up to go into sleep mode when the lid is closed. With WE > 9.3 and now 9.4 WE is silent when opening the lid thus returning from > sleep mode. I reported this issue with WE 9.3 and now with 9.4 and got > no response from the support team. Guess it isn't high on the list of > things to fix with WE 9.3 as it still exists with 9.4. Sometimes you > can close the lid and open it again and WE starts and sometimes it > won't. Can use control alt w to restart WE however was told by the WE > staff that this still leaves WE in something less than normal mode. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/donald.roberts99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: An alternative for User Windows?
Jonathan, Here's a quick crash course answer. And it's all off the top of my head. So I assume no liability for consequential, existential, or intercontinental damages. You can only have one "active" window. But that's a bit misleading. The Window-Eyes windows act somewhat like program windows and child windows in a program. While you always have to have the main program window, which is nothing more than a frame, everything within it is a child window of that window. That is unless you're a Mozilla developer and put up a window frame and then make all of its children direct children of the desktop. They need serious long-term psychiatric therapy. But I digress. In Window-Eyes the normal ancestry used by sane developers works with precedence. Window 0 has the highest precedence. So in effect it is the parent window. for example, if you made window 0 silent then it's not going to matter what you do with the other 99 windows because their precedence is lower than that of window 0. Therefore, typically window 0 is the active window, neutral, and uses auto-determined highlighting. Generally this will serve you best for normal usage of the program. Then you can move up and configure, for example, window 1 to always speak the text you want that's in a particular color. That window doesn't have to be active if it's a speak window. Alternatively you can make it a neutral window and assign a hot key to it so you can have it speak when you want. If you do assign a hot key make sure to give it program scope. How you handle the text in a particular color depends on how you want it to work and how much information you can pin down about it. If you have mouse access you can use it to set the window coordinates using the hot keys. You can set the foreground/background and highlight color in the window properties to "accept mouse." But these dialogs will only appear if you uncheck match any foreground and background colors and auto-determine highlight color. Then just tab through the manual options until you come to the "Accept mouse" button. Then there's the approach of using hyperactive windows, which I'll simply leave at that for the moment. When you're done whipping up windows don't forget to set the main window back to 0 and save the set file. Hth, Tom On 3/18/2016 9:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn via Talk wrote: Hello, I have struggled with User windows, since I learned Window-Eyes scripting at the same time I learned Window-Eyes. When working with some programs, I find there is text in a specific color that should be indicated to the user at presentation and that the WindowClips functionality of Window-Eyes works, it seems a bit overkill. Can you tell me how to have all maroon text in a specific application speak using User-Windows. I have read the documentation on UserWIndows a couple of times, but can’t figure out if more than one can be active, how to set a highlight color for one, and other likely controls. Best wishes, Jonathan On Mar 18, 2016, at 10:30, via Talk wrote: Hello, Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not always work as they once did. After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could write a Script. Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all the time. Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing any scripts any time soon. Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing a script? Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. Thanks for any help, or reply, Grumpy Dave Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jon.c.cohn%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-w
Re: Losing Touch, or do I still have it?
One thing I can remember right off the bat is that before windows came out, we seemed to be on more of an even keel with the sighted. Because they had to use the same dos commands as we did. I can remember talking to relatives of mine about doing stuff on the computer, and we could freely trade information back and forth, without my having to say stuff like: "You have to give me the keyboard commands for that". Pam. -Original Message- From: via Talk Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 12:26 AM To: A I Squared Support List Subject: Losing Touch, or do I still have it? Hello, I am curious about something. I have thought for a while now that accessibility is either going backwards, or it is not keeping up with the new changes coming in modern apps and programs. This isn't meant to be a slam at A I Squared, but I am wondering if this is just my own misguided and inaccurate perception, or have any of the rest of you noticed the same steps backwards, as I think I have. At a time when it appears as if accessibility is increasing, , when I examine the topic closer, there are just more choices today, than in days past. There is multiple versions of MS Windows, and now Apple has put Access in their OS. The Iphone and other Smart phones have access, and the same for Tablets. Even Lenox I've been told now has some support for reading its screens. We have more Gadgets that have some Speech, but so far, the level of access seems shallow. As long as you only use the basics of any given program, or OS, you might be OK. But if you need to get in a make some deeper changes, you might be hard pressed to make any such changes because you find the access into those areas is just not there. I worked at a Computer Software company for a long time, and I was let go when Cash flow was slowing up. If I had to go back and work there today, I doubt if I could do so, because I do not have the access I once had. They have changed the Phones system, and they are using software that I doubt if any screen reader would read enough of it to make it usable by someone blind. They now have three Databases, and one is an On-Line Database, and I doubt if I could work fast enough to do my old job. Even before, I had to memorize a ton of stuff, and today, I would need to memorize a lot more than before. So are those of us who are Blind experiencing less access these days than say we did 10 or 15 years ago? I would say we have less, even though we have more choices today, the access is shallower. Am I just a guy that is out of touch, or is what I think I see, an observation others have noticed as well? And don't worry about hurting my feelings. I hope I am wrong in my assessment. Grumpy Dave P.S. And I may not be seeing Steps Backwards, but just that changes are taking place so fast, that Screen reader builders can not keep up with these changes? Or is it a bit of both. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox
I've always used the Window-Eyes Insert-S, select Dropbox, and Alt-R to open the context menu. However it is a little strange in that when I do so it says "press enter to open the Dropbox menu." But obviously it's not a big deal. hth, Tom On 3/18/2016 10:28 AM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote: Richard, Unfortunately, there are variations in the Dropbox interface that were dependent upon the version. For a while, I avoided updating Dropbox because new versions were worse. Mostly, though, I feel I am best off with the current version and that might be worth a look. Having said that, though, there were versions of Dropbox that did not respond to Windows keystrokes when in the system tray, only responding to mouse clicks. You may have one of those versions. Routing your mouse to the Dropbox icon and then left clicking might open up the menu for you. Also, using the Window-Eyes interface to the system tray, INSERT S, might be easier. Since I don't have one of the versions of Dropbox that act this way, I can't tell you for certain whether you should left click or right click, but maybe this will get you started. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Richard Petty [mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:48 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox Steve, in my Windows 7, DropBox doesn't work that way in the System Tray. I've also gone to the list of programs in the start menu and tried to find preferences there, but without success. Are you aware of any other way to get to preferences? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 2:35 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox If you go to dropbox preferences on your computer, not on their website, there is an option to "Show Dropbox Badge." You may also hear the word "Down" indicating that you press the DOWN ARROW to change the option. Change this preference to "Never." For me, that eliminated all of the problems with Word and Excel files in my Dropbox folder. I get to preferences by finding Dropbox in the system tray, pressing SPACE which brings up a menu, and then DOWN ARROW until I get to Preferences. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox Dear all, I have problem with window-eyes 9.4 reading any Word documents from my dropbox folders. Encountering same problem with earlier version of window-eyes. The cursor is moving over the text on the documents, but window-eyes does not speak at all. I do not have this problem with NVDA. Using windows 8.1, MS Office 2007. Anyone can help. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.petty% 40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List ar
RE: Thunderbird problem with WE 9.4
Hi, Are you opening messages in tabs or windows? Also what happens if you disable apps? Press insert-7 to toggle the app status to off. Note: the 7 is on the QWERTY keyboard, not the number pad. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim Elsner via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 9:24 AM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Thunderbird problem with WE 9.4 Members Recently up graded my win 7 home premium 64 bit machine and we from version 9.2 to 9.4 and find the following problems In Thunderbird we repeats the first line unless I set we to read nothing when opening a message. If I set it to read the first 24 lines or the entire page and hit the escape key to close the message we goes silent and upon restart I get a Thunderbird not responding note and enter closes Thunderbird.I get the same result if I set we to read nothing and do an read to end command unless I hit the control key to silence we pryer to closing the message. I do find IE 11 better with version 9.4. Please help. Jim Elsner ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: can't get miranda ng to work under win 10
I have no problems connecting to aim. what version of miranda ng are you using? On 3/16/2016 2:58 PM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: Well, I'm currently signed into Facebook chat using Miranda NG. I think some of you guys might be using Miranda IM, instead of NG which is the more recent version of Miranda. Facebook chat works just fine. I'm not able to reliably connect to Aim, however. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Miranda NG should most certainly work with Windows 10. I don't see why it wouldn't. On 3/16/2016 12:35 PM, Davy Cuppens via Talk wrote: Hi I can reproduce this. Moreover, if you are intending to use Miranda for fb chat like most of us did, This is nolonger possible. FB closed all its services for third party chat bots. Regards Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Jed Barton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:30 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: can't get miranda ng to work under win 10 Hey guys, Well i installed miranda ng, but the main window doesn't seem to come up under win 10, any ideas? i changed the hotkey to control shift Z but no go, any thoughts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/davycuppens%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sunshine%40abe.midco.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Another Browse Mode Issue
>From time to time in Internet Explorer WE will say invalid key pressed. It doesn't matter if I go in and out of browse mode, alt+TAB out and back again etc. The only work-around I have found is to shut down Internet Explorer and call it up again. The other is to restart WE. Sorry, I cannot duplicate this problem. So far it appears random. I am running Windows 10 and using IE with the latest version of WE. Vic ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Losing Touch, or do I still have it?
I find it horribly frustrating that so many "small businesses, non for profits, personal websites" are developed using tools/templates that have little or no accessibility built into them.I've also heard of at least one web site design business that is not familiar at all with ARIA or the concept of web accessibility. And, my niece, who just graduated with a BS in Computer Science has no idea of the concept of web accessibility. Huh? Not even the concept? Really discouraging. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: unzip utillity
The unzip utility that comes with Windows 10 seems to work fine. On 3/18/2016 10:02 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: I like 7-zip. You can find it at https://ninite.com/accessible. It is under the compression category/heading. On 3/18/2016 10:40 AM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote: Hey guys, I forgot the name of the program to unzip files. I ahve a .rar file here, but win 10 won't open it. if anyone can point mein the right direction that would be great ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox
Hi Tom, It's weird alright, but it works that way. Smile. Thanks, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: March 18, 2016 12:04 PM To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox I've always used the Window-Eyes Insert-S, select Dropbox, and Alt-R to open the context menu. However it is a little strange in that when I do so it says "press enter to open the Dropbox menu." But obviously it's not a big deal. hth, Tom On 3/18/2016 10:28 AM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote: > Richard, > > Unfortunately, there are variations in the Dropbox interface that were > dependent upon the version. For a while, I avoided updating Dropbox because > new versions were worse. Mostly, though, I feel I am best off with the > current version and that might be worth a look. > > Having said that, though, there were versions of Dropbox that did not > respond to Windows keystrokes when in the system tray, only responding to > mouse clicks. You may have one of those versions. Routing your mouse to > the Dropbox icon and then left clicking might open up the menu for you. > Also, using the Window-Eyes interface to the system tray, INSERT S, might be > easier. Since I don't have one of the versions of Dropbox that act this > way, I can't tell you for certain whether you should left click or right > click, but maybe this will get you started. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Petty [mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:48 AM > To: 'Steve Jacobson' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion > List' > Subject: RE: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox > > Steve, in my Windows 7, DropBox doesn't work that way in the System Tray. > I've also gone to the list of programs in the start menu and tried to find > preferences there, but without success. Are you aware of any other way to > get to preferences? Thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 2:35 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox > > If you go to dropbox preferences on your computer, not on their website, > there is an option to "Show Dropbox Badge." You may also hear the word > "Down" indicating that you press the DOWN ARROW to change the option. > Change this preference to "Never." For me, that eliminated all of the > problems with Word and Excel files in my Dropbox folder. I get to > preferences by finding Dropbox in the system tray, pressing SPACE which > brings up a menu, and then DOWN ARROW until I get to Preferences. > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Problem with reading MS Word 2007 documents from dropbox > > Dear all, > > I have problem with window-eyes 9.4 reading any Word documents from my > dropbox folders. Encountering same problem with earlier version of > window-eyes. > > The cursor is moving over the text on the documents, but window-eyes > does not speak at all. I do not have this problem with NVDA. > > Using windows 8.1, MS Office 2007. Anyone can help. Thanks. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson > %40visi.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.petty% > 40earthlink.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-
unzip utillity
Hey guys, I forgot the name of the program to unzip files. I ahve a .rar file here, but win 10 won't open it. if anyone can point mein the right direction that would be great ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: An alternative for User Windows?
Hello, I have struggled with User windows, since I learned Window-Eyes scripting at the same time I learned Window-Eyes. When working with some programs, I find there is text in a specific color that should be indicated to the user at presentation and that the WindowClips functionality of Window-Eyes works, it seems a bit overkill. Can you tell me how to have all maroon text in a specific application speak using User-Windows. I have read the documentation on UserWIndows a couple of times, but can’t figure out if more than one can be active, how to set a highlight color for one, and other likely controls. Best wishes, Jonathan > On Mar 18, 2016, at 10:30, via Talk wrote: > > Hello, > > Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not > always work as they once did. > > After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech > support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported, > and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work. > > When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could > write a Script. > > Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I > found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read > parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all > the time. > > Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of > Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing > any scripts any time soon. > > Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing > a script? > > Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or > more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now? > > I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the > screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen. > > Thanks for any help, or reply, > > Grumpy Dave > > Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in > my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be > something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be > a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jon.c.cohn%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Losing Touch, or do I still have it?
To be honest, I have pondered this myself -Original Message- From: via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:26 PM To: A I Squared Support List Subject: Losing Touch, or do I still have it? Hello, I am curious about something. I have thought for a while now that accessibility is either going backwards, or it is not keeping up with the new changes coming in modern apps and programs. This isn't meant to be a slam at A I Squared, but I am wondering if this is just my own misguided and inaccurate perception, or have any of the rest of you noticed the same steps backwards, as I think I have. At a time when it appears as if accessibility is increasing, , when I examine the topic closer, there are just more choices today, than in days past. There is multiple versions of MS Windows, and now Apple has put Access in their OS. The Iphone and other Smart phones have access, and the same for Tablets. Even Lenox I've been told now has some support for reading its screens. We have more Gadgets that have some Speech, but so far, the level of access seems shallow. As long as you only use the basics of any given program, or OS, you might be OK. But if you need to get in a make some deeper changes, you might be hard pressed to make any such changes because you find the access into those areas is just not there. I worked at a Computer Software company for a long time, and I was let go when Cash flow was slowing up. If I had to go back and work there today, I doubt if I could do so, because I do not have the access I once had. They have changed the Phones system, and they are using software that I doubt if any screen reader would read enough of it to make it usable by someone blind. They now have three Databases, and one is an On-Line Database, and I doubt if I could work fast enough to do my old job. Even before, I had to memorize a ton of stuff, and today, I would need to memorize a lot more than before. So are those of us who are Blind experiencing less access these days than say we did 10 or 15 years ago? I would say we have less, even though we have more choices today, the access is shallower. Am I just a guy that is out of touch, or is what I think I see, an observation others have noticed as well? And don't worry about hurting my feelings. I hope I am wrong in my assessment. Grumpy Dave P.S. And I may not be seeing Steps Backwards, but just that changes are taking place so fast, that Screen reader builders can not keep up with these changes? Or is it a bit of both. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
