RE: migrating from outlook express to outlook 2007

[Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk]

Ralph, the document you referred to in your post only deals with Outlook
2010/2013!  I did read it; the suggestion contained therein DOES NOT match
what Outlook 2007 has to offer.  Could I be missing something?  Much thanks
for straightening me out!

Sincerely, 
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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Re: Kronos Time system access

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

At the Library of Congress we are using Chronos Web-TA. I think we are at 
version 3.8. But I just read today that we are switching to version 4.2 in a 
month, with a lot of cool features. I hope we can still use it. I'll believe 
it when I see it.
Good luck on getting your HTML access re-established. Hopefully this was 
just an oversight in the IT department and not something more systemic.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:34 PM
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Subject: Kronos Time system access

Hoping those 1 or 2 of you out there using Kronos Time keeper at your 
company will see this.  We've talked about access in the past to this time 
card system with WE. Until now, I've had access to a link into Kronos that 
provided an HTML based version of the time card.  All the rest of my 
colleague go into a Java based version that will not read at all with WE. 
Last weekend, Kronos did an update to our system and now my URL for the HTML 
version will not work.  I'm working through internal channels to find out if 
a new link to this HTML version still exists.  Are any of you experiencing 
something similar?  Maybe the upgrade was only done for my company's 
instance of the software, but I'm trying to arm myself with any other user 
information.


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Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
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RE: Kronos Time system access

[Karyn Campbell via Talk]

Robin,

We just use the time clock piece and no one except for maybe a couple of 
administrative people, myself not included, have access to the computer part of 
Kronos.  They thought it would be more trouble than it was worth to have 
everyone have computer access to that system.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 
as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 
2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht machines.




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Kronos Time system access 
Importance: High

Hoping those 1 or 2 of you out there using Kronos Time keeper at your company 
will see this.  We've talked about access in the past to this time card system 
with WE. Until now, I've had access to a link into Kronos that provided an HTML 
based version of the time card.  All the rest of my colleague go into a Java 
based version that will not read at all with WE.  Last weekend, Kronos did an 
update to our system and now my URL for the HTML version will not work.  I'm 
working through internal channels to find out if a new link to this HTML 
version still exists.  Are any of you experiencing something similar?  Maybe 
the upgrade was only done for my company's instance of the software, but I'm 
trying to arm myself with any other user information.

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com


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RE: outlook 2007 question

[Gaston Bedard via Talk]

With Outlook 2010 open.
Press on, Alt.
 Arrow right to, View.
Tab down to, reverse sort button.
Press on space bar to select.
 This works with Outlook 2010.
 
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[mailto:talk-bounces+gasbedard=videotron...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Ted Larson via Talk
Sent: June-24-16 10:19 PM
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Subject: outlook 2007 question

Dear List:
I have migrated from outlook express to outlook 2007.  With my outlook
express, my messages were arranged with the oldest on the top in date
ascending order so that the newest were at the end.  However, with my
outlook 2007, the newest are listed first.  How do I reverse this to get the
latest listed at the end?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
  
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outlook 2007 question

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Dear List:
I have migrated from outlook express to outlook 2007.  With my outlook express, 
my messages were arranged with the oldest on the top in date ascending order so 
that the newest were at the end.  However, with my outlook 2007, the newest are 
listed first.  How do I reverse this to get the latest listed at the end?  
Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
  
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just one mo.

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

Hi, checking my filter, please ignore.
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

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Re: just a text, please ignore!

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

thanks, I had to make my new filter for this new email addy.
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:25:22 -0700
Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:

> thanks
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> Curtis Delzer, HS.
> K6VFO
> San Bernardino, CA
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just a text, please ignore!

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

thanks
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

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RE: Upgrading from office 2010 to office 2016:

[Charles Short via Talk]

Hello, you should uninstall office 2010, then install office 2016.  You know
how to do that, right?


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 7:22 PM
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Subject: Upgrading from office 2010 to office 2016:

Hi I am planning on upgrading from office 2016, and was wondering if I could
leave my current version of office installed, and then upgrade office like
you can do in windows, or should I uninstall office 2010 and install office
2016. 

Kenny Peyatt jr. 

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Upgrading from office 2010 to office 2016:

[kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk]

Hi I am planning on upgrading from office 2016, and was wondering if I could
leave my current version of office installed, and then upgrade office like
you can do in windows, or should I uninstall office 2010 and install office
2016. 

Kenny Peyatt jr. 

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Re: about links

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Sorry, Linette.

The default hot key to select text in browse mode is F8 not 
Alt-semicolon. I redefined it to make it quicker.

Thanks to Carol for catching my mistake.

Regards,
Tom



On 6/24/2016 5:35 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:

Linette,

If you're reading a message in Thunderbird you're in browse mode and
should hear "link". You might want to Tab/Shift-Tab or L/Shift-L to make
sure you're on the link. Alt-semicolon twice should select the link and
a copy dialog should pop up. Otherwise you can open the context menu and
press L for Copy link location. Then paste it into the new message.

To create a link it depends where you want to get the link. If it's for
a site you're on in IE you can press Alt-D for the address bar and
Control-C to copy because it will already be selected. Do the same in FF
but Home and Shift-End to select it and then Control-C.

If you're on a link open the context menu and press T for Copy shortcut
in IE or A for Copy link location in FF. Then paste into your new message.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/24/2016 4:24 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



First, how do you send a link from a message to someone else in a new
message? When I put the cursor on it, copy it and paste it into the new
message, it isn't there.
Second, how do you create a link?
I am using the latest version of Window-Eyes, the latest Thunderbird,
and running Windows 8 on an HP Pavilion laptop.
I don't know whether these are WE issues or merely Windows ones. If
they're not relevant  to this list, I apologize.
Thank you.

Peace.
Linette

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Re: about links

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Linette,

If you're reading a message in Thunderbird you're in browse mode and 
should hear "link". You might want to Tab/Shift-Tab or L/Shift-L to make 
sure you're on the link. Alt-semicolon twice should select the link and 
a copy dialog should pop up. Otherwise you can open the context menu and 
press L for Copy link location. Then paste it into the new message.


To create a link it depends where you want to get the link. If it's for 
a site you're on in IE you can press Alt-D for the address bar and 
Control-C to copy because it will already be selected. Do the same in FF 
but Home and Shift-End to select it and then Control-C.


If you're on a link open the context menu and press T for Copy shortcut 
in IE or A for Copy link location in FF. Then paste into your new message.


Hth,
Tom


On 6/24/2016 4:24 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



First, how do you send a link from a message to someone else in a new
message? When I put the cursor on it, copy it and paste it into the new
message, it isn't there.
Second, how do you create a link?
I am using the latest version of Window-Eyes, the latest Thunderbird,
and running Windows 8 on an HP Pavilion laptop.
I don't know whether these are WE issues or merely Windows ones. If
they're not relevant  to this list, I apologize.
Thank you.

Peace.
Linette

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about links

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

First, how do you send a link from a message to someone else in a new 
message? When I put the cursor on it, copy it and paste it into the new 
message, it isn't there.

Second, how do you create a link?
I am using the latest version of Window-Eyes, the latest Thunderbird, 
and running Windows 8 on an HP Pavilion laptop.
I don't know whether these are WE issues or merely Windows ones. If 
they're not relevant  to this list, I apologize.

Thank you.

Peace.
Linette

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RE: Delta Airlines. Another Site Harder to Use For Sake of New Technology

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Can you provide exact steps to get to these combo boxes? Also, what browser and 
operating system are you using?
Best,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Delta Airlines. Another Site Harder to Use For Sake of New Technology

Their comboboxes and pull-downs are a mess. I can’t get them to reliably expand 
or talk. I have to go in and out of browse mode to get any information at all, 
e.g., passengers and surrounding airport comboboxes, etc. They say that they 
have a text-only version available, but I can’t seem to find out how to access 
it. Has anyone tried it?
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Kronos Time system access

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Hoping those 1 or 2 of you out there using Kronos Time keeper at your company 
will see this.  We've talked about access in the past to this time card system 
with WE. Until now, I've had access to a link into Kronos that provided an HTML 
based version of the time card.  All the rest of my colleague go into a Java 
based version that will not read at all with WE.  Last weekend, Kronos did an 
update to our system and now my URL for the HTML version will not work.  I'm 
working through internal channels to find out if a new link to this HTML 
version still exists.  Are any of you experiencing something similar?  Maybe 
the upgrade was only done for my company's instance of the software, but I'm 
trying to arm myself with any other user information.

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com


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RE: app list?

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
All lists were moved to the lists.window-eyes.com domain.
Make sure your not sending to an old gwmicro.com list.
Chris


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On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 4:35 PM
To: via Talk 
Subject: app list?

is the app list still around?
a message i sent says there was a perminent error.
i'mm trying to figure out how to use the window manager app with the 
composition window of wlm to maximize it.
i can get the options open, maximize and window title. but the test button 
doesn't do anything to the wlm window even if i save the settings the windows 
stays minimized every time i open a message to reply.
thanks.


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Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

[net bat via Talk]

its just a wlm bug. but microsoft is not supporting wlm anymore.
they want everyone on the win 10 mail app, which is still not very accessible.
use the w e window maximizer app.
this works.
and i figured out if you press the hot keys insert alt  space bar you can 
exclude windows you don't want maximized. except for the shut down screen.
this one closes before it can be excluded and w e will say the window is no 
longer valid.


-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 6:38 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Yes, I'm using windows 10.

Here's what I don't understand, when I reply to my first message after
opening WLM, the message is maximized.  After sending the message, the next
message I reply to, the message is no nlonger maximized.  I have to maximize
it before I can start typing and have the arrow keys and backspace keys
speak.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:35 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

are you useing windows 10?
someone on blindtech is having the same problem with nvda and wlm on windows
10.
i am useing windows 7 without this problem.
-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:04 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Thanks to you, I just figured out what the problem is while composing a
message.  I just pressed alt
space bar to open the restore menu and maximized the window and it works.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:32 PM
To: michaels mail ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

i don't think you are talking about the same thing.
when i have wlm and firefox or i e running at the same time and alt tab
between
them many times there is no w e focus on the main screen. but if i press alt
space bar to open the restore menu, press enter to restore, alt tab away and
back again to maximize the screen focus will come back. without haveing to
reload w e.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Rus it happens to me every day and few times a day just restart we with
alt control w and we reads the email fine.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:12 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I checked association in the WE control pannel and the correct file is
associated.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:44 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

Okay, in that case, when you open the second message, open the WE control
panel and check if the same set file is associated as had been for the
window when the first message was open.
I'm trying to figure out if, somehow, either the message windows are
different or WE is not picking up the correct set file.
Usually, even simply opening the WE control panel can jog WE to open the
correct set file.
If not, then perhaps the set file associated with the first message window
needs to be manually associated to the second message window.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:russ94...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:31 AM
To: Rod Hutton 
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I exit the first message and return to the message list.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:39 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

How precisely do you open up the second or next message?
Do you delete the current and then the second opens automatically?
Try exiting back to the message list and then open another and see if the
problem occurs.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:52 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I just tried that and no go!

-Original Message-
From: gosselin_louis
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:14 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Well, I use Outlook, and it exhibits very similar behavior.  The cure, for
me at least, is just to alt-tab away from the message I'm working on and
alt-tab back, and the problem is gone.  Annoying, but easily fixed. Try it
and see if it works for you.

Louis Gosselin

-Original Message

Re: Edge has somehow become my default browser and I want Ie EXPLOERINSTEAD

[net bat via Talk]

this doesn't work with win 10.
you have to open the start menu and type in default browser and click on the 
browser showing and change it to the one you want to use.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike Rogers via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:07 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Edge has somehow become my default browser and I want Ie 
EXPLOERINSTEAD


Hi.
I'm not familiar with Edge, but I think that if you open I.E., it will ask you 
if you want it to be your default browser.  If so, just hit Alt y.  dThat's how 
mine acts.




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On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:02:04 -0400
Tom Kingston via Talk  wrote:


Ivan,

Open the start menu and type web browser.
Choose a default browser should come up in the list.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/24/2016 6:49 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk wrote:
> T  t  The subject says it all. Can somebody please
> help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ivan Cribb
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RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Russ,

I don't think the window stays maximized, and perhaps you can check its
maximized state by opening the window's control menu to ascertain this.
If it is not remaining maximized, then my guess is that Windows itself is
restoring it in order to maintain the visibility of all relevant windows so
that the user is made aware of the status of all windows they may wish to
know about.
For example, when email is received, the user would want the notification
area to alert them, and this is flashed in this instance.
If this is the case, then, apart from using a utility of some kind to
maximize windows, there's not much that can be done.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 9:39 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Yes, I'm using windows 10.

Here's what I don't understand, when I reply to my first message after
opening WLM, the message is maximized.  After sending the message, the next
message I reply to, the message is no nlonger maximized.  I have to maximize
it before I can start typing and have the arrow keys and backspace keys
speak.

-Original Message-
From: net bat
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:35 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

are you useing windows 10?
someone on blindtech is having the same problem with nvda and wlm on windows
10.
i am useing windows 7 without this problem.
-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:04 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Thanks to you, I just figured out what the problem is while composing a
message.  I just pressed alt space bar to open the restore menu and
maximized the window and it works.

-Original Message-
From: net bat via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:32 PM
To: michaels mail ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

i don't think you are talking about the same thing.
when i have wlm and firefox or i e running at the same time and alt tab
between them many times there is no w e focus on the main screen. but if i
press alt space bar to open the restore menu, press enter to restore, alt
tab away and back again to maximize the screen focus will come back. without
haveing to reload w e.

-Original Message-
From: michaels mail via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Rus it happens to me every day and few times a day just restart we with
alt control w and we reads the email fine.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:12 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I checked association in the WE control pannel and the correct file is
associated.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:44 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

Okay, in that case, when you open the second message, open the WE control
panel and check if the same set file is associated as had been for the
window when the first message was open.
I'm trying to figure out if, somehow, either the message windows are
different or WE is not picking up the correct set file.
Usually, even simply opening the WE control panel can jog WE to open the
correct set file.
If not, then perhaps the set file associated with the first message window
needs to be manually associated to the second message window.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:russ94...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:31 AM
To: Rod Hutton 
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I exit the first message and return to the message list.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:39 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

How precisely do you open up the second or next message?
Do you delete the current and then the second opens automatically?
Try exiting back to the message list and then open another and see if the
problem occurs.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:52 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I just tried that and no go!

-Original Message-
From: gosselin_louis
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:14 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Yes, I'm using windows 10.

Here's what I don't understand, when I reply to my first message after 
opening WLM, the message is maximized.  After sending the message, the next 
message I reply to, the message is no nlonger maximized.  I have to maximize 
it before I can start typing and have the arrow keys and backspace keys 
speak.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 11:35 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

are you useing windows 10?
someone on blindtech is having the same problem with nvda and wlm on windows
10.
i am useing windows 7 without this problem.
-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:04 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Thanks to you, I just figured out what the problem is while composing a
message.  I just pressed alt
space bar to open the restore menu and maximized the window and it works.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:32 PM
To: michaels mail ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

i don't think you are talking about the same thing.
when i have wlm and firefox or i e running at the same time and alt tab
between
them many times there is no w e focus on the main screen. but if i press alt
space bar to open the restore menu, press enter to restore, alt tab away and
back again to maximize the screen focus will come back. without haveing to
reload w e.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Rus it happens to me every day and few times a day just restart we with
alt control w and we reads the email fine.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:12 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I checked association in the WE control pannel and the correct file is
associated.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:44 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

Okay, in that case, when you open the second message, open the WE control
panel and check if the same set file is associated as had been for the
window when the first message was open.
I'm trying to figure out if, somehow, either the message windows are
different or WE is not picking up the correct set file.
Usually, even simply opening the WE control panel can jog WE to open the
correct set file.
If not, then perhaps the set file associated with the first message window
needs to be manually associated to the second message window.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:russ94...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:31 AM
To: Rod Hutton 
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I exit the first message and return to the message list.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:39 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

How precisely do you open up the second or next message?
Do you delete the current and then the second opens automatically?
Try exiting back to the message list and then open another and see if the
problem occurs.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:52 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I just tried that and no go!

-Original Message-
From: gosselin_louis
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:14 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Well, I use Outlook, and it exhibits very similar behavior.  The cure, for
me at least, is just to alt-tab away from the message I'm working on and
alt-tab back, and the problem is gone.  Annoying, but easily fixed. Try it
and see if it works for you.

Louis Gosselin

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:19 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Here's the problem I now have with windows live mail on this new computer.
When replying to my first message after starting we, it works as it should.
Here is where the problem starts.  When I go to reply to my second message,
I can't use the arrow keys to review what I typed.  The back space won't
speak when I back space.  When I check to see what set file is lo

Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Here's what I don't understand, why is the first message I reply to 
maximized?


When I used WLM with windows 7, I never had to do this?

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 10:50 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; via Talk
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

aisquared asked you if the window was maximized a few days ago.
i wish wlm windows would stay maximized.
but they don't. but with me this hasn't stopped me  from composeing 
messages.

try one of these apps.
window maximizer. one thing you may not like is it maximizes every program
window you open.
this could be a problem with firefox if it is maximized. if it is the pull 
down

menus will not open until you restore it with the f11 key
it does have settings to block the action for programs but you would have to 
do

this for every program you run.
i haven't tried this one so i don't know how it works.
hotwind.
-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 7:04 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Thanks to you, I just figured out what the problem is while composing a
message.  I just pressed alt
space bar to open the restore menu and maximized the window and it works.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:32 PM
To: michaels mail ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

i don't think you are talking about the same thing.
when i have wlm and firefox or i e running at the same time and alt tab
between
them many times there is no w e focus on the main screen. but if i press alt
space bar to open the restore menu, press enter to restore, alt tab away and
back again to maximize the screen focus will come back. without haveing to
reload w e.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Rus it happens to me every day and few times a day just restart we with
alt control w and we reads the email fine.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:12 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I checked association in the WE control pannel and the correct file is
associated.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:44 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

Okay, in that case, when you open the second message, open the WE control
panel and check if the same set file is associated as had been for the
window when the first message was open.
I'm trying to figure out if, somehow, either the message windows are
different or WE is not picking up the correct set file.
Usually, even simply opening the WE control panel can jog WE to open the
correct set file.
If not, then perhaps the set file associated with the first message window
needs to be manually associated to the second message window.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:russ94...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:31 AM
To: Rod Hutton 
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I exit the first message and return to the message list.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:39 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Hi Russ,

How precisely do you open up the second or next message?
Do you delete the current and then the second opens automatically?
Try exiting back to the message list and then open another and see if the
problem occurs.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:52 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I just tried that and no go!

-Original Message-
From: gosselin_louis
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:14 AM
To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Well, I use Outlook, and it exhibits very similar behavior.  The cure, for
me at least, is just to alt-tab away from the message I'm working on and
alt-tab back, and the problem is gone.  Annoying, but easily fixed. Try it
and see if it works for you.

Louis Gosselin

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:19 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Here's the problem I now have with windows live mail on this new computer.
When replyin

RE: annoying

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

One could  also use windows-t to go to the task bar, then first letter nav.
Also if you know what number your program is located on the task bar you can 
use windows-1 through windows-0 to directly switch to the open program.  If it 
is on the task bar and not running it'll be open.


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 6:45 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
; Linette Sukup 
Subject: Re: annoying

Tom,

Thanks for that clear and concise statement of the issue. Now that I 
know that WE is just doing its job by reporting this window. At this 
point, I will cease my grousing on the matter.

On 6/24/2016 1:19 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Window-Eyes is doing what it's supposed to do. Task Switching is a
> window that pops up and gets focus. It's a variation of the Task View
> window. So it probably has some sighted purpose. Silencing it would
> require a global app.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 6/23/2016 10:21 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just let it slide. It's not so bad.
>>
>> Peace.
>> Linette
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/23/2016 10:07 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>>> I'd sure like to know how  to do  that as well. That was my first major
>>> annoyance when at first starting to use 8.1. I'm well awair of what I am
>>> doing when it comes to that.
>>>
>>> On 6/23/2016 9:39 AM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
 How do I go about stopping wineyes from saying task switching?
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Re: Edge has somehow become my default browser and I want Ie EXPLOER INSTEAD

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

Hi.
I'm not familiar with Edge, but I think that if you open I.E., it will ask you 
if you want it to be your default browser.  If so, just hit Alt y.  dThat's how 
mine acts.



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On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:02:04 -0400
Tom Kingston via Talk  wrote:

> Ivan,
> 
> Open the start menu and type web browser.
> Choose a default browser should come up in the list.
> 
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 6/24/2016 6:49 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk wrote:
> > T  t  The subject says it all. Can somebody please
> > help.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ivan Cribb
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Re: Edge has somehow become my default browser and I want Ie EXPLOER INSTEAD

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Ivan,

Open the start menu and type web browser.
Choose a default browser should come up in the list.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/24/2016 6:49 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk wrote:

T  t  The subject says it all. Can somebody please
help.

Thanks

Ivan Cribb

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Edge has somehow become my default browser and I want Ie EXPLOER INSTEAD

[Ivan Cribb via Talk]

T  t  The subject says it all. Can somebody please
help.

Thanks

Ivan Cribb

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Re: annoying

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Tom,

Thanks for that clear and concise statement of the issue. Now that I 
know that WE is just doing its job by reporting this window. At this 
point, I will cease my grousing on the matter.


On 6/24/2016 1:19 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

Window-Eyes is doing what it's supposed to do. Task Switching is a
window that pops up and gets focus. It's a variation of the Task View
window. So it probably has some sighted purpose. Silencing it would
require a global app.

Tom


On 6/23/2016 10:21 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



I just let it slide. It's not so bad.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/23/2016 10:07 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

I'd sure like to know how  to do  that as well. That was my first major
annoyance when at first starting to use 8.1. I'm well awair of what I am
doing when it comes to that.

On 6/23/2016 9:39 AM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

How do I go about stopping wineyes from saying task switching?
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Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?

[net bat via Talk]

knope, that didn't do anything. but if you use the window maximizer app it will 
maximize all windows that can be maximized.
i don't know how to exclude programs. it maximizes firefox and pressing f11 has 
to be pressed with every web page change if i want to open the firefox pull 
down menus.


-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:44 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?

I think Chris from  Ai Squared said if you press windows key plus press up
arrow and it will maxamize the window.
Cheers.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:56 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?

try useing one of the w e apps.
window maximizer or window manager. this last one i haven't figured out how
to
make it work. when i click on test it doesn't do anything.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 6:35 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?

Are you using windows 7 or 10?  It all worked great when I was using windows
7.  These problems all started with using WLM with windows 10?

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:00 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?


I have good luck with WLM. The one thing I notice is, in order to read what
I write in the text of an email, I go to the subject line and then back into
the text. Then I can read what I write.

There has been a few times where I couldn't read what I write. I also
couldn't read the text so I rebooted the computer and then everything worked
find.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:22 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Not everyone seem's to have it, but there has been some issues with being
able to read what you are writing in a reply, And, the backspace not
speaking at times. I'm pretty sure part of it is a focus issue in Windows
it's self. I don't know about Windows 7 although. In windows 8 and 10 there
have been some oddities with WLM. LOL

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:31 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

From what I see on the list, not everyone has this issue?

-Original Message- 
From: Tony C

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:27 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I think it started with windows 8 and the versions of WE that worked with
it.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:02 AM
To: michael's emails ; Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

It looks like I'm not the only one with this problem.  I just wish someone
had a way of fixing it.  I've been using wlm on my old windows 7 computer
for several years without these kinds of problems.

-Original Message- 
From: michael's emails via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:45 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

i get it happen everyday i mainly just use the restart we alt control w and
its okay
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 4:24 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Russ, I have the same thing happen to me most of the time..

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:22 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

None of those options have changed.  This is my first message after starting
WE and everything works as it should.  If I try to reply to another message
without restarting WE, the arrow keys and backspace keys don't speak.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:04 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

look in the wlm set file in the cursor menu.
the backspace is suppose to be prior character before
***
are the defined keys gone?
i don't remember what app i had but when i ran it it would erase all of
these
settings and i had to reinstall the set files
the author had the same coruption and removed his app from the list.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:38 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

No, I'm not using 

Re: WE, IE & Youtube

[net bat via Talk]

you get invalid key when the web page is not loading.

-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 10:01 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE, IE & Youtube

So I am now experiencing the IE portion of this (actually I am not sure
what I am experiencing). I'm on the website
http://airchexx.com/
and I wanted to return to the site's home page.  First I back spaced,
and when that didn't work, I pressed alt-left arrow.  When that didn't
work, I refreshed the page (f-5) and WE went silent, not completely.
When I tabbed, and arrowed, WE was silent,but when I did control home
andpage up, WE said bottom and top.  Browse Mode would turn on and off,
and when I went to the top of the page the Windows-blong sound would be
heard. WE's silence was replaced with "not a valid key pressed." I
restarted WE but the "not avalid key pressed" was still there.  Fast
forward maybe an hour (not really sure when I checked again) but the
page was somewhat back to normal, if I turned off Browse Mode.  However,
when I turned it back on, I still heard "not a valid key pressed."  Hmm,
now Browse mode will not turn off.

Sorry for the lengthy post; I just wanted to pprovide as much info as I
could. BTW, if I go to my desktop, I generally can open internet
explorer in another window with no problem.

P.S. I just restarted WE and now everything on that site is as it should be.




On 6/21/2016 11:47 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

This seems to be an IE issue (I think) but lately I hav been
experiencing what amounts to mostly Youtube freezing upsometimes after
maybe 10 minutes of listening.  The music (or whatever I am listening
to) will return after a while and everything will be back to normal.
While this is happening (and it's currently happening [right in the
middle of an Al Green record]), the tab and arrow keys say nothing.
Browse Mode does seem to turn on and off but no information is revealed.
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