Virtual View usefulness

2016-08-28 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi listers:

 

Just a message to describe one use I found for the Virtual View app.

 

I like to tinker with different configurations, but, don't want to
re-install Windows or the like just to try something different.

 

So, I decided to use virtual machines instead.

 

I use VMWare Workstation Player to install the OS, since there is an
easy-install option to take much of the work of installing out of the
prodcess.  However, this wasn't an option for Windows 10, at least, not yet.

 

This meant I had to basically boot up the machine as if I were installing a
new Operating System on it.  Since this is difficult without sighted
assistance, I had avoided it.  Suddenly, it hit me.  Virtual View can do an
OCR of the screen!  So, I booted up, using the iso of Windows 10 created
from the Media Creation Tool.

 

The system went into Windows setup, and started asking me the questions
needed for installation.

 

Most of this can be done simply by pressing Enter, with a few exceptions.
The Virtual View app was able to ocr the setup screens, and, from previous
experience, and, a little guesswork, I was able to successfully install
Windows 10, up to the point where Narrator could take over.

 

Great job on the Virtual View app!

 

Thanks very much!

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read and unread in outlook

2016-08-28 Thread Don S via Talk
Hi:

Can a kind soul help me get outlook read and unread emails as it was before.

Using windows 10, we 9.51 and 1607 of windows 10

Thanks

Don

 

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Re: two little questions

2016-08-28 Thread Mickey via Talk

I use Wordpad or that other reader that everyone has--Adobe.


Mickey


On 8/28/2016 3:43 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



First, what is the hot key for switching between folders in Thunderbird?
Next, will Virtual View read pdf documents? I have never read one 
before. Is the command to access it alt v?


Peace.
Linette

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RE: Saying goodbye

2016-08-28 Thread Andre via Talk
Thanks so much Marc.Big time  Congrats! You always gave us great resources
and suggestions.

I'm really happy for you.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Andy Baracco via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 4:07 PM
To: Marc Solomon; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Saying goodbye

I am a Chase customer, so I look forward to great things happening in terms 
of accessibility.

Best wishes,
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Saying goodbye

Hi everyone,
It has been a pleasure and a privilege to be part of the Window-Eyes 
community for the past 7 years. So, it is with a heavy heart that I share 
this news. Today is my last day working for Ai Squared. I was made a job 
offer that was too good to refuse. As much as I love my current job, this 
was the best decision for my family. Next month, I will start my new job as 
a Senior Accessibility Specialist for JP Morgan Chase. This position will 
give me the opportunity to help Chase further their mission to build 
inclusive digital experiences for all of their customers. If you would like 
to stay in touch, feel free to follow me on Twitter. I don't tweet often, 
but when I do, I usually distribute information on digital accessibility and

assistive technology. My handle is mr_marcsolomon. As a final thought, 
please continue to educate others about the importance of accessibility and 
do what you can to help make this world a better place.
Cheers,
Marc
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RE: [StationPlaylist] problem with window eyes app

2016-08-28 Thread AndrewDS via Talk
Hello , try changing keyboard layout in settings.
I'm set to Zoom Text Fusion.
I check time with keystroke insert + f 12, which gives both time & date.
Keystroke Control + ALT + X closes SPL ok.
As for those other keystrokes, I haven't used them as of yet. I hope this
works for you ODD
.  Andrew
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Behalf Of aad leeflang via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 5:49 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Fw: [StationPlaylist] problem with window eyes app

hello all
i am using the latest version of station playlist standard edition.
and i am using window eyes 9.5.1.
with windows 7
and the stationplaylsit app latest version.

unfortunatly my stationplaylist app for window eyes does not work
properly.
for instance: if i press insert-t i get the date instead of the time.
the function alt-shift-j does normally gives you the information about
the time the playlist will last, does not work.
alt-shift-k does not work either.
and for some reason controll-alt-x to close the programm does not work
as well.
so what's wrong here?



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RE: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

2016-08-28 Thread David Crowell via Talk
Hi Rod, 

I followed your below directions and though my system did updates the only
updates I got were for Windows Defender.  
According to my computer I am using Windows 10 Home edition 1511 so I guess
do not have the 1607 version as of yet.  My spouse has the same system I do
but he found how to manually download 1607 and he got a message saying this
update is not applicable to your computer.  

So we are trying to figure out what is happening.  
My computer is a Lenova all in one that I purchased a year ago before
windows 10 was released.  It had windows 8.1 and I downloaded windows 10
about two months ago.  But now I can not get the anniversary edition.  I am
using the most current version of Window Eyes with all updates also.  

So should I just wait until Windows does the update on their own or do you
think I have a problem and that is why I am not getting windows 10 version
1607.


Dave 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:03 PM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi Rick,

If you type update in the search edit box in the Start menu, Check for
Updates will appear.
If you press Enter on this, you'll be taken to the Windows Update dialog.
If you tab to the Check for updates button and Press it, you'll activate the
manual download of available updates.
Once downloads are available, tabbing to the Install button will actually
install them, and you'll be asked to restart your system when installed.
Now, if you don't manually install updates, this will normally be done
automatically if you leave your system on overnight.
I manually installed updates on my Windows 10 Pro virtual machine twice over
the last week, the last time being today.
Now, even though the Windows Update dialog continues to report that my
Windows is up to date, the current build of my Windows version is still
1511.
I'm starting to be convinced that the anniversary update is either only for
Windows 10 Home, or it will be rolled out to Pro later.
Perhaps Home users are the guinea pigs while the advanced Pro users remain
happy go lucky with their stable 1511 build. Grin

All the best,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Windows Software, WE and Updates And Upgrades

Hi:
I don't think I have ever gotten any updates or upgrades for office 365 and
now have not gotten the upgrade for windows 10 anniversery edition.
I have received the automatic updates like for windows defender loaded
automatically.
 I am wondering if I have not registered my software correctly or something
and don't know what I don't know so cant even check things out.
Also, WE does not work correctly  when searching for features in the start
box.
I hit enter to open it, type something then have to hit the down arrow key,
tab out and back in to read every entry, not very good and not sure if this
is normal WindowEyes behavior.
There are other things I am noticing but these 2 are a good starting point
to start trying to figure things out, learn what I need to and or request
fixes as I move through trying to figure out what is going on.
I run a Dell Desktop Optiplex, windows 10 pro and the latest WE.
My Outlook in the start list and on the desktop reads as Outlook2013 but in
the properties window the executable is Outlook15 so I don't have a clue as
to what version of Outlook is on my machine and cant find it anyplace in the
Outlook ribbon thingy.
Perhaps I did not register it or something else is going on, don't have a
clue yet but hope someone might be better with navigating around Office 365.
Rick USA

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two little questions

2016-08-28 Thread Linette Sukup via Talk



First, what is the hot key for switching between folders in Thunderbird?
Next, will Virtual View read pdf documents? I have never read one 
before. Is the command to access it alt v?


Peace.
Linette

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Re: older version of Window-Eyes and XP

2016-08-28 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

It may not be supported by the company, but it will probably work.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Charles Short via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 3:05 PM
To: 'Carol and Roger' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: older version of Window-Eyes and XP

Windows xp is no longer supported.  Your brother would have to get a new
laptop with windows 10 and WE 9.5.1.0.


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: older version of Window-Eyes and XP

Hi,

My brother had to install an older version of Window-Eyes on his old XP
computer after replacing the hard drive.  The computer does not come up
talking.  The only way he can get speech, after everything is loaded, is to
press control-backslash, alt, y, enter and then WE starts speaking.
He would like to know if he has fogotten a step somewhere.  He still has the
same hardware and everything else.  Thanks for any assistance.

Carol



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RE: older version of Window-Eyes and XP

2016-08-28 Thread Charles Short via Talk
Windows xp is no longer supported.  Your brother would have to get a new
laptop with windows 10 and WE 9.5.1.0.


Charlie Short

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: older version of Window-Eyes and XP

Hi,

My brother had to install an older version of Window-Eyes on his old XP
computer after replacing the hard drive.  The computer does not come up
talking.  The only way he can get speech, after everything is loaded, is to
press control-backslash, alt, y, enter and then WE starts speaking.  
He would like to know if he has fogotten a step somewhere.  He still has the
same hardware and everything else.  Thanks for any assistance.

Carol



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RE: Saying goodbye

2016-08-28 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Hi Marc,

I do not post much and when I do it is usually with a question. You have
answered some of those questions and no matter how obvious my question may
be to many on this list, you have always given thoughtful, thorough, well
written responses. I add my name to the many others on this list who are
sorry to see you leave, but know that wherever you go in the future, you
will make technology for the blind easier by informing and instructing
sighted people about making websites accessible to everyone. Congratulations
and good luck with your new job!

Paulette

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:21 PM
To: Norene Trappa; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Saying goodbye

Yes, I'm sorry to see him go, but I'm glad he got a job helping make 
something in regular industry accessible.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 4:43 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Saying goodbye

So sorry you are leaving.  You certainly have given us a wealth of
information over the years.  Congratulations and best wishes in the future.

Norene



-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Saying goodbye

Hi everyone,
It has been a pleasure and a privilege to be part of the Window-Eyes
community for the past 7 years. So, it is with a heavy heart that I share
this news. Today is my last day working for Ai Squared. I was made a job
offer that was too good to refuse. As much as I love my current job, this
was the best decision for my family. Next month, I will start my new job as
a Senior Accessibility Specialist for JP Morgan Chase. This position will
give me the opportunity to help Chase further their mission to build
inclusive digital experiences for all of their customers. If you would like
to stay in touch, feel free to follow me on Twitter. I don't tweet often,
but when I do, I usually distribute information on digital accessibility and
assistive technology. My handle is mr_marcsolomon. As a final thought,
please continue to educate others about the importance of accessibility and
do what you can to help make this world a better place.
Cheers,
Marc
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Re: Accessible Virus Checker Queery

2016-08-28 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
My first windows computer I got in 2000 came with Norton, but that's the 
last time I dealt with it.  I can't remember when I got rid of it.  I have 
been hearing for years that Norton was way down on the list of antivirus 
programs.  My brother-in-law said the list always changes, but that Norton 
hasn't been high on the list for years.  But that was several years ago, so 
I don't know how it ranks since then.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:54 PM
To: Charles Short ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Accessible Virus Checker Queery

Just my opiinion, but I won't let anything NOrton get near my system.
Much to invasive.  I stopped using ghost some time back, again to
invasive and totally mouse driven.  I haven't tried their antivirus in
some time, but last I tried, was totally mouse driven as well.
Not wanting to start a flame war here, just my opinion for what it is
worth.  I have sighted friends who won't touch norton either.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 27
Aug 2016, Charles Short via Talk wrote:


Norton antivirus is a good one.  Window-Eyes works somewhat well with it.


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 3:15 PM
To: Linda Mentink ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Accessible Virus Checker Queery

Hi what screen reader to you use with your AVG and was it hard to set up?
Also is it the free version and if so where can you get it from?
Thank you and have A nice day.
Only last thing is the anything that I would need to not install with this
AVGor any settings that I will want to change or not change when 
installing

it?


--
Casey
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RE: bell

2016-08-28 Thread CJ &AA MAY via Talk
This is really interesting; many thanks.

Alison

 

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Re: about becky!

2016-08-28 Thread Martha via Talk
Hi.

To sort the address book, use your mouse key to place the pointer on the
column header. Click on the column header to sort. Clicking a second
time on the desired column header will reverse the sort order.

To include the original email as part of your reply, from the "Tools"
menu, open the General Setup" option.
Within that option are 12 tabs.  Use your arrow keys to get to the tab
called "Citation".  Then use your tab key to get to the checkbox for
"use edit template when replying" and use the spacebar to check it.

I may not have the wording of the labels exactly right, but, should be
close enough for you to recognize what I am trying to communicate.  If
not, write to me off-list and I'll give it another try.

Martha
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RE: bell

2016-08-28 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
In the old days, many characters in the lower ranges performed functions
rather than bweing displayed.  For example, there was a control character
that caused a bell to ring on old teletype machines.  I believe it was
CONTROL-G.  This character was used in computers to sometimes sound a beep.
I believe this character is used to define the boundary between cells in
tables particularly in Microsoft products.  You will here "Bell"
particularly if you are using the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys to move through
tables, but you may sometimes hear this at other times depending upon other
settings.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 8:48 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: bell

I have observed this behavior, also, and it has nothing to do with E-mail. 
It has to do with tables. I haven't noticed it yet with the newest build of 
Window-Eyes, but Ihave observed it previously, especially with MS Word 2010 
tables.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 5:40 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: bell

Hi Alison,

Forgive me, I meant you could add the sender, not the recipient, to your
junk sender's list.  It's a little early in the morning for me, I think.
Smile

Good luck,

Rod

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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:38 AM
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Subject: RE: bell

Hi Alison,

Well, if you don't recognize the sender, and the subject is confusing, and
the body is meaningless, you could simply add the recipient to your junk
sender's list.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:20 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: bell

Forgive me if this message has already been sent.

I receive certain messages, usually in table lay-out, where Window-eyes is
constantly saying "bell"; what is the significance of this and how can I
stop it please?



Alison



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Re: bell

2016-08-28 Thread Tom Fairhurst via Talk
I have observed this behavior, also, and it has nothing to do with E-mail. 
It has to do with tables. I haven't noticed it yet with the newest build of 
Window-Eyes, but Ihave observed it previously, especially with MS Word 2010 
tables.


-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 5:40 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: bell

Hi Alison,

Forgive me, I meant you could add the sender, not the recipient, to your
junk sender's list.  It's a little early in the morning for me, I think.
Smile

Good luck,

Rod

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Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:38 AM
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Subject: RE: bell

Hi Alison,

Well, if you don't recognize the sender, and the subject is confusing, and
the body is meaningless, you could simply add the recipient to your junk
sender's list.

Hth,

Rod

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Of CJ &AA MAY via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:20 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: bell

Forgive me if this message has already been sent.

I receive certain messages, usually in table lay-out, where Window-eyes is
constantly saying "bell"; what is the significance of this and how can I
stop it please?



Alison



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about becky!

2016-08-28 Thread Robin via Talk
Is anyone using Becky if so would they know how to put the address book
in alphabetic order.
One other thing if you reply to some one is there a way to leave the
original message there, if you forward a message the original message
stays there.
Many thanks for any help.
Cheers Robin.   
---
Email Sent by using the, "Becky! Email Client".
Email: bob@ntlworld.com

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Re: bell

2016-08-28 Thread John Covici via Talk
Isn't bell some kind of unicode character that is used in some word
tables?  I think I have seen this before in some documents, although I
can't rmemeber exactly where.

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 06:37:36 -0400,
Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> 
> Hi Alison,
> 
> Well, if you don't recognize the sender, and the subject is confusing, and
> the body is meaningless, you could simply add the recipient to your junk
> sender's list.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of CJ &AA MAY via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:20 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: bell
> 
> Forgive me if this message has already been sent.
> 
> I receive certain messages, usually in table lay-out, where Window-eyes is
> constantly saying "bell"; what is the significance of this and how can I
> stop it please?
> 
>  
> 
> Alison
> 
>  
> 
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RE: older version of Window-Eyes and XP

2016-08-28 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Carol,

I'm not quite sure how the keystrokes you summarized start Window-Eyes.
However, as has been mentioned in another reply, it would simply be a matter
of ensuring you have the proper startup option under General, Startup
options.
My guess is that he installed XP Pro, which tends to be rather stickly about
permissions.
The key, however, is to ensure he sets it to come up for all users at the
login screen, as well as all users after login.
The dialog tends to be a little confusing here, but, if yu study it
carefully, you can get it set up properly.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 9:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: older version of Window-Eyes and XP

Hi,

My brother had to install an older version of Window-Eyes on his old XP
computer after replacing the hard drive.  The computer does not come up
talking.  The only way he can get speech, after everything is loaded, is to
press control-backslash, alt, y, enter and then WE starts speaking.  
He would like to know if he has fogotten a step somewhere.  He still has the
same hardware and everything else.  Thanks for any assistance.

Carol



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RE: bell

2016-08-28 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Alison,

Forgive me, I meant you could add the sender, not the recipient, to your
junk sender's list.  It's a little early in the morning for me, I think.
Smile

Good luck,

Rod

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Subject: RE: bell

Hi Alison,

Well, if you don't recognize the sender, and the subject is confusing, and
the body is meaningless, you could simply add the recipient to your junk
sender's list.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
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Of CJ &AA MAY via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:20 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: bell

Forgive me if this message has already been sent.

I receive certain messages, usually in table lay-out, where Window-eyes is
constantly saying "bell"; what is the significance of this and how can I
stop it please?

 

Alison

 

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RE: bell

2016-08-28 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Alison,

Well, if you don't recognize the sender, and the subject is confusing, and
the body is meaningless, you could simply add the recipient to your junk
sender's list.

Hth,

Rod

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Subject: bell

Forgive me if this message has already been sent.

I receive certain messages, usually in table lay-out, where Window-eyes is
constantly saying "bell"; what is the significance of this and how can I
stop it please?

 

Alison

 

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bell

2016-08-28 Thread CJ &AA MAY via Talk
Forgive me if this message has already been sent.

I receive certain messages, usually in table lay-out, where Window-eyes is
constantly saying "bell"; what is the significance of this and how can I
stop it please?

 

Alison

 

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RE: bell

2016-08-28 Thread CJ &AA MAY via Talk
I am receiving certain messages, usually containing table lay-outs, where
Window-eyes keeps saying "bell". 

What is the signicance of this and how can I stop it please?

 

Alison

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