Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts
Hello Carol, Thanks very much for your suggestion but I don't think that woulbe necessary because Windows Media Player plays those MIDI files at the correct volume. However, I don't like using that player as I can't wind back or forward easily. Also, I can play MIDI files with WinAmp at the correct volume on my Windows XP machine so there must be something wrong with the set-up of Winamp on my Windows 8.1 machine. Winamp needs Direct X to be installed but I don't seem to be able to install it properly on my Windows 8.1 machine. That could probably be the cause of my woes with Winamp on this machine. I would be very glad if you could explain to me how you could convert MIDI files to wave or some other audio form. Thanks so much again for your help. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 10:14 PM To: peter Chin Subject: Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts If you would like to send me one of your midi files, I can try to raise the volume on it and see if that is the problem. Note, I am not sure if I actually have something that can convert midi to wav, but I am willing to try. Carol On 11/5/2017 9:35 PM, peter Chin wrote: Hello Carol, Sorry for the late reply. I had some problem with my modem. I got back my start-up sound when the computer technician switched my system sounds back on. Some how this got turned off. My own sound scheme is called just "Default", not Windows Default. Some times my scheme works, Some times it doesn't. When I go to the sound scheme in the control panel and test the sounds, they work. They just don't always work automatically. I just started my computer before typing this reply to you and the sound scheme was not working. I am also having another little problem with my WinAmp which was installed by my computer technician. MIDI files are played very softly even though the Winamp slider shows it is at 100 per cent. I can go to the system sounds and turn up the volume but as soon as I replay the file, the volume goes down. I have now uninstalled my Winamp and hope to reinstall it later to see if it can be improved. Sorry for troubling you with all my problems but none of my friends here seem to know the answers. Thanks again for trying to help. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 11:01 PM To: peter Chin Subject: Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts Hi, Sometimes, my sound schemes will disappear. Have you tried resetting your default sounds? Check the volume for them under your "sndvol" settings. Tab through the different settings and you will find speaker, each program you have which might have an associated sound, system sounds, which would be the one you want. I generally keep my system sounds at about 1/2 of the speaker sounds. Depending on how you like to hear things, you might even go down to about 10 percent of the volume. Once you can get your system sound volume the way you want it, you should be able to switch back to your personal preference sounds, which I assume you saved once you created them. If you didn't, you will need to re-create your sound scheme and then, make sure to save it. You should not call it Windows Default as this might cause you some trouble from time to time. Take care. Carol On 10/20/2017 2:35 AM, peter Chin wrote: Hello Carol, Thanks for your suggestions. I won't be trying out the program for a while because I have a small problem with my computer and I want the computer techician to have a look at it first. All the sounds which I set in the sound scheme under Program Events have stopped working and yesterday I even lost the Windows start-up sound. No idea what's happening. I hope it isn't due to malware. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 9:18 AM To: peter Chin Subject: Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts Do you know how to open it? If so, you then tab to the setting you wish to change.Page up or page down will increase or decrease the setting. Your arrow keys will move by one point. There is a difference between the way WE and JAWS handle the percentage reporting. WE begins with 0 and can move above or below zero by units of 10 with the keys I listed. JAWS, on the other hand, begins with the percentage at 50 and moves by units of 5. If you move by page up and press it four times, WE would say 40% If you moved it with JAWS, it would say 70%. I don't know of any actual shortcut keys other than these. There is one other item I would like to address. Sometimes, when I press page up let's say 5 times, the playback seems to be a little faster than when pressing playback on the same track using JAWS. I can't say whether this is all of the time, but it has happened. It is a really simple program. Have fun with it. Carol On 10/19/2017 5:47 AM, peter Chin wrote: Hello Carol, Thanks for all your help. I will try the older version first if I can find it. If it doesn't work, I
Re: How to use Google Drive
Hi Larry: One way you can share a file is to go to the Google Drive site, www.drive.google.com. Then you find the list of files, highlight the one you want to share, then backtab a few times until you get to the Share button, and, depending on which screen reader you are using, it should say the name of the file that is being shared when you backtab to that button. then you can press the spacebar to activate the button and it should ask you for the address you want to share it with. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Kevin Huber On 11/4/17, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: > Listers, > > > I'm sure hoping that someone here has at least attempted to make use of > the free 15gb storage allotment from Google Drive, because after > attempting to do so, in my case, I can't seem to get to first base, > unless sharing the how too file is actually doing that. > > > I was under the impression that after I downloaded some kind of app to > my system, that I would be able to use it to set myself up with this > thing, but I see no sign of a download of an app, or any shortcut on my > desktop. > > > The primary reason for using this feature is to send some rather large > files to my brother. Never thought it would turn out to be such a PITA. > > > Is this even speech accessible? > > Any ideas please? > > > Thanks very much in advance, > > > Larry > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws and Edge
Hi: Speaking of Edge, what about NVDA and Edge? I have NVDA at the office, and I tried briefly to run Edge and a similar thing happened as Tony described. Kevin Huber On 10/20/17, Tony C via Talk wrote: > Hello, When I open edgeee jaws reads nothing. How do I find and install jaws > support for edge? Thanks Tony > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
AW: Jaws and Edge
Tony, you must have Edge as standard browser for using Jaws with Edge. Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Kevin Huber via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:18 An: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Kevin Huber Betreff: Re: Jaws and Edge Hi: Speaking of Edge, what about NVDA and Edge? I have NVDA at the office, and I tried briefly to run Edge and a similar thing happened as Tony described. Kevin Huber On 10/20/17, Tony C via Talk wrote: > Hello, When I open edgeee jaws reads nothing. How do I find and > install jaws support for edge? Thanks Tony > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
AW: Jaws and Edge
And to use Edge for reading PDFs, you have to use NVDA as Jaws doesn't yet support Edge for PDF. Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Kevin Huber via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:18 An: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Kevin Huber Betreff: Re: Jaws and Edge Hi: Speaking of Edge, what about NVDA and Edge? I have NVDA at the office, and I tried briefly to run Edge and a similar thing happened as Tony described. Kevin Huber On 10/20/17, Tony C via Talk wrote: > Hello, When I open edgeee jaws reads nothing. How do I find and > install jaws support for edge? Thanks Tony > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WG: Jaws and Edge
Tony, I apologize. I must correct something: please replace standard with default browser. I have Edge as default browser for working in Edge and using Edge to read PDF documents. But I also have Internet Explorer in the task bar. Of course, after quitting Edge you can go to IE as before. When having IE as default browser and entering Edge, you cannot work in Edge with Jaws. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Luciano Ortelli via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:26 An: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Luciano Ortelli Betreff: AW: Jaws and Edge Tony, you must have Edge as standard browser for using Jaws with Edge. Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Kevin Huber via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:18 An: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Kevin Huber Betreff: Re: Jaws and Edge Hi: Speaking of Edge, what about NVDA and Edge? I have NVDA at the office, and I tried briefly to run Edge and a similar thing happened as Tony described. Kevin Huber On 10/20/17, Tony C via Talk wrote: > Hello, When I open edgeee jaws reads nothing. How do I find and > install jaws support for edge? Thanks Tony > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Jaws and Edge
It is also my understanding that one's success with Edge will depend some upon the version of Windows 10 that one has installed. Microsoft has been making changes to Edge as well as have screen readers. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Luciano Ortelli via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 11:45 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Luciano Ortelli Subject: WG: Jaws and Edge Tony, I apologize. I must correct something: please replace standard with default browser. I have Edge as default browser for working in Edge and using Edge to read PDF documents. But I also have Internet Explorer in the task bar. Of course, after quitting Edge you can go to IE as before. When having IE as default browser and entering Edge, you cannot work in Edge with Jaws. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Luciano Ortelli via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:26 An: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Luciano Ortelli Betreff: AW: Jaws and Edge Tony, you must have Edge as standard browser for using Jaws with Edge. Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Kevin Huber via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:18 An: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Kevin Huber Betreff: Re: Jaws and Edge Hi: Speaking of Edge, what about NVDA and Edge? I have NVDA at the office, and I tried briefly to run Edge and a similar thing happened as Tony described. Kevin Huber On 10/20/17, Tony C via Talk wrote: > Hello, When I open edgeee jaws reads nothing. How do I find and > install jaws support for edge? Thanks Tony > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
AW: Jaws and Edge
Hi Steve, I have Windows 10 with Fall Creators update, Jaws 2018 and NVDA 2017.3. Regards, Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Steve Jacobson via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 18:59 An: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Steve Jacobson Betreff: RE: Jaws and Edge It is also my understanding that one's success with Edge will depend some upon the version of Windows 10 that one has installed. Microsoft has been making changes to Edge as well as have screen readers. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Luciano Ortelli via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 11:45 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Luciano Ortelli Subject: WG: Jaws and Edge Tony, I apologize. I must correct something: please replace standard with default browser. I have Edge as default browser for working in Edge and using Edge to read PDF documents. But I also have Internet Explorer in the task bar. Of course, after quitting Edge you can go to IE as before. When having IE as default browser and entering Edge, you cannot work in Edge with Jaws. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Luciano Ortelli via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:26 An: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Luciano Ortelli Betreff: AW: Jaws and Edge Tony, you must have Edge as standard browser for using Jaws with Edge. Lucian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lortelli=bluewin...@lists.window-eyes.com] Im Auftrag von Kevin Huber via Talk Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. November 2017 17:18 An: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Kevin Huber Betreff: Re: Jaws and Edge Hi: Speaking of Edge, what about NVDA and Edge? I have NVDA at the office, and I tried briefly to run Edge and a similar thing happened as Tony described. Kevin Huber On 10/20/17, Tony C via Talk wrote: > Hello, When I open edgeee jaws reads nothing. How do I find and > install jaws support for edge? Thanks Tony > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%4 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lortelli%40blu ewin.ch. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists
We certificates
HI, I have a couple of authorization files that I had gotten from Gw before they went belly up. However, none of these authorization files will run and they give the error that they are blocked by an administrator. Is there any way to get these authorization files with the new certificate? thanks. B ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers.
For years Windows has had a screen reader flag that our screen readers set to true when we load them and false when we close them. Most programs don't pay any attention to this, but there are programs that do. And Windows itself actually does a little work to feed our screen readers some information that would otherwise be inaccessible when this flag is true. While writing a program I needed to look up the Windows SystemParametersInfo function for something unrelated. It is a doorway to numerous system parameters. In doing so I was reminded that it's also where a pile of accessibility parameters are accessed as well, e.g. screen reader, high contrast, keyboard access preference, no animations, visual effects, etc. All of these have get and set functions. A common scenario probably most of us have experienced is that our screen reader goes silent. So we fire up another one to see what's going on. For example, Window-Eyes will stop talking occasionally with IE error messages. But for some reason, usually, as soon as I fire up NVDA, or close the error message window with NVDA, Window-Eyes comes back to life. The point is that I end up with two screen readers running simultaneously. I always assumed this would mess with the screen reader flag status. And stumbling upon this offered me a golden opportunity to get away from my real work. So I wrote a little program to check the screen reader and keyboard preference flags. the latter is to indicate to developers that you want keyboard access rather than a mouse driven interface. I doubt anyone uses or pays any attention to this because if they did a purely mouse driven graphical interface would be replaced by a keyboard driven interface with standard controls. At least that would be the best case scenario. Our screen readers don't set it to true anyway because the screen reader flag is saying the same thing. It's another case of the elements existing and not being used. Case in point, W3C web standards. But I digress. The driving force was that I've known about this for years and suspected that loading another screen reader atop an existing one and then unloading either would leave the screen reader flag false. My program confirmed my suspicion. I may have mentioned this before because I was told about this years ago. But I wanted a concrete answer. And I was curious as to whether it had been improved. Although I have been operating on my assumption ever since hearing about it initially. I ran my program with Window-Eyes running and then after unloading it. I then did the same with NVDA. I haven't installed JAWS on my new system yet, but I assume it will do the same. When one is loaded the screen reader flag is true and when it's not it's false. And if I load either while the other is running and then unload one of them I still have a screen reader running but the screen reader flag is false. The reason I wanted to know this for sure is that I thought if common sense had prevailed there would have been a simple screen reader counter. That way the true count could stack up and screen reader would not be false until the counter was zero, which is always false in programming logic. Evidently common sense didn't prevail on this one. So now you know. I recommend reloading your screen reader if you have to load and then unload another to get out of a jam. And here's the bonus prize! Narrator does not set the flag true. So you don't have to worry about it if you load Narrator atop another screen reader. Why this is is beyond comprehension. But Microsoft states it clearly on their developers network and my program confirmed it. I suppose they incorporated a seperate internal flag for Narrator. Who knows. Regards, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: We certificates
I would first open the context menu on the file and make sure it's not blocked under the general tab. You can unblock them. If they're not blocked I would try opening the context menu again and use the Run as administrator option. Hth, Tom On 11/7/2017 2:36 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: HI, I have a couple of authorization files that I had gotten from Gw before they went belly up. However, none of these authorization files will run and they give the error that they are blocked by an administrator. Is there any way to get these authorization files with the new certificate? thanks. B ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Favorites in IE 11
Hi Tom: I am not sure about how you can recover them, but I have tested IE 11 with the latest versioon of Window-eyes and they do read properly for me. Kevin Huber On 10/18/17, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote: > I just discovered today that my favorites won’t display propperly in IE 11 > using the latest version ofWindow-Eyes. I have never had this problem > before. How can I refresh them. For those of you who are transitioning to > JAWS, they won’t display there either. I am using Window 7 64-bit Pro. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers.
Tom, That is a little geeky, but still interesting. Thanks for sharing. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 12:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers. For years Windows has had a screen reader flag that our screen readers set to true when we load them and false when we close them. Most programs don't pay any attention to this, but there are programs that do. And Windows itself actually does a little work to feed our screen readers some information that would otherwise be inaccessible when this flag is true. While writing a program I needed to look up the Windows SystemParametersInfo function for something unrelated. It is a doorway to numerous system parameters. In doing so I was reminded that it's also where a pile of accessibility parameters are accessed as well, e.g. screen reader, high contrast, keyboard access preference, no animations, visual effects, etc. All of these have get and set functions. A common scenario probably most of us have experienced is that our screen reader goes silent. So we fire up another one to see what's going on. For example, Window-Eyes will stop talking occasionally with IE error messages. But for some reason, usually, as soon as I fire up NVDA, or close the error message window with NVDA, Window-Eyes comes back to life. The point is that I end up with two screen readers running simultaneously. I always assumed this would mess with the screen reader flag status. And stumbling upon this offered me a golden opportunity to get away from my real work. So I wrote a little program to check the screen reader and keyboard preference flags. the latter is to indicate to developers that you want keyboard access rather than a mouse driven interface. I doubt anyone uses or pays any attention to this because if they did a purely mouse driven graphical interface would be replaced by a keyboard driven interface with standard controls. At least that would be the best case scenario. Our screen readers don't set it to true anyway because the screen reader flag is saying the same thing. It's another case of the elements existing and not being used. Case in point, W3C web standards. But I digress. The driving force was that I've known about this for years and suspected that loading another screen reader atop an existing one and then unloading either would leave the screen reader flag false. My program confirmed my suspicion. I may have mentioned this before because I was told about this years ago. But I wanted a concrete answer. And I was curious as to whether it had been improved. Although I have been operating on my assumption ever since hearing about it initially. I ran my program with Window-Eyes running and then after unloading it. I then did the same with NVDA. I haven't installed JAWS on my new system yet, but I assume it will do the same. When one is loaded the screen reader flag is true and when it's not it's false. And if I load either while the other is running and then unload one of them I still have a screen reader running but the screen reader flag is false. The reason I wanted to know this for sure is that I thought if common sense had prevailed there would have been a simple screen reader counter. That way the true count could stack up and screen reader would not be false until the counter was zero, which is always false in programming logic. Evidently common sense didn't prevail on this one. So now you know. I recommend reloading your screen reader if you have to load and then unload another to get out of a jam. And here's the bonus prize! Narrator does not set the flag true. So you don't have to worry about it if you load Narrator atop another screen reader. Why this is is beyond comprehension. But Microsoft states it clearly on their developers network and my program confirmed it. I suppose they incorporated a seperate internal flag for Narrator. Who knows. Regards, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin.van.lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy
RE: We certificates
Bernie, did you try running these certificates as administrator? I've had occasions when certain apps won't install unless Irun them as administrator during the installation process. I'm thinking, hopefully not so naively, that the same case scenario could hold true for what you are experiencing. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Using add/remove with WE
I sure hope some of you have found a reasonably good way to use the add/remove in Windows 10 with Window-Eyes. So far, every time I try to highlight a program, then go take a look at the options, my highlighter ends up at a place way down the list. This can be a bit disconcerting to say the least. If anyone could pleas give me some helpful pointers, it would be greatly appreciated. Even tell me if it is doable with NVDA, that might help. Just haven't gone there yet. Thanks, Larry ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers.
What is this flag true and false stuff? This is the first time I have heard of such a thing. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers. For years Windows has had a screen reader flag that our screen readers set to true when we load them and false when we close them. Most programs don't pay any attention to this, but there are programs that do. And Windows itself actually does a little work to feed our screen readers some information that would otherwise be inaccessible when this flag is true. While writing a program I needed to look up the Windows SystemParametersInfo function for something unrelated. It is a doorway to numerous system parameters. In doing so I was reminded that it's also where a pile of accessibility parameters are accessed as well, e.g. screen reader, high contrast, keyboard access preference, no animations, visual effects, etc. All of these have get and set functions. A common scenario probably most of us have experienced is that our screen reader goes silent. So we fire up another one to see what's going on. For example, Window-Eyes will stop talking occasionally with IE error messages. But for some reason, usually, as soon as I fire up NVDA, or close the error message window with NVDA, Window-Eyes comes back to life. The point is that I end up with two screen readers running simultaneously. I always assumed this would mess with the screen reader flag status. And stumbling upon this offered me a golden opportunity to get away from my real work. So I wrote a little program to check the screen reader and keyboard preference flags. the latter is to indicate to developers that you want keyboard access rather than a mouse driven interface. I doubt anyone uses or pays any attention to this because if they did a purely mouse driven graphical interface would be replaced by a keyboard driven interface with standard controls. At least that would be the best case scenario. Our screen readers don't set it to true anyway because the screen reader flag is saying the same thing. It's another case of the elements existing and not being used. Case in point, W3C web standards. But I digress. The driving force was that I've known about this for years and suspected that loading another screen reader atop an existing one and then unloading either would leave the screen reader flag false. My program confirmed my suspicion. I may have mentioned this before because I was told about this years ago. But I wanted a concrete answer. And I was curious as to whether it had been improved. Although I have been operating on my assumption ever since hearing about it initially. I ran my program with Window-Eyes running and then after unloading it. I then did the same with NVDA. I haven't installed JAWS on my new system yet, but I assume it will do the same. When one is loaded the screen reader flag is true and when it's not it's false. And if I load either while the other is running and then unload one of them I still have a screen reader running but the screen reader flag is false. The reason I wanted to know this for sure is that I thought if common sense had prevailed there would have been a simple screen reader counter. That way the true count could stack up and screen reader would not be false until the counter was zero, which is always false in programming logic. Evidently common sense didn't prevail on this one. So now you know. I recommend reloading your screen reader if you have to load and then unload another to get out of a jam. And here's the bonus prize! Narrator does not set the flag true. So you don't have to worry about it if you load Narrator atop another screen reader. Why this is is beyond comprehension. But Microsoft states it clearly on their developers network and my program confirmed it. I suppose they incorporated a seperate internal flag for Narrator. Who knows. Regards, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.c
Re: Using add/remove with WE
Hi Larry, I have used add/remove and found that I go down the list of programs and when I get to the one I wish to uninstall I right click and the uninstall option is there. On 11/7/2017 7:02 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: > I sure hope some of you have found a reasonably good way to use the > add/remove in Windows 10 with Window-Eyes. So far, every time I try to > highlight a program, then go take a look at the options, my > highlighter ends up at a place way down the list. This can be a bit > disconcerting to say the least. > > > If anyone could pleas give me some helpful pointers, it would be > greatly appreciated. Even tell me if it is doable with NVDA, that > might help. Just haven't gone there yet. > > > Thanks, > > > Larry > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers.
Pam, It's how Windows or other programs know if you're running a screen reader or not. They can then choose to operate differently if they want to support screen readers. The point I was trying to make, and obviously failed at in this instance, is what I concluded with. If you have a problem with one screen reader and launch another, solve the problem for the first and then close the second, the screen reader flag is false (off) in Windows. Then you should close the first, presumably your main screen reader, and launch it again to turn that flag back on because Windows and some programs do things differently when they see that flag waving. Sorry if it was too geeky. Hth, Tom On 11/7/2017 8:57 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: What is this flag true and false stuff? This is the first time I have heard of such a thing. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 2:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers. For years Windows has had a screen reader flag that our screen readers set to true when we load them and false when we close them. Most programs don't pay any attention to this, but there are programs that do. And Windows itself actually does a little work to feed our screen readers some information that would otherwise be inaccessible when this flag is true. While writing a program I needed to look up the Windows SystemParametersInfo function for something unrelated. It is a doorway to numerous system parameters. In doing so I was reminded that it's also where a pile of accessibility parameters are accessed as well, e.g. screen reader, high contrast, keyboard access preference, no animations, visual effects, etc. All of these have get and set functions. A common scenario probably most of us have experienced is that our screen reader goes silent. So we fire up another one to see what's going on. For example, Window-Eyes will stop talking occasionally with IE error messages. But for some reason, usually, as soon as I fire up NVDA, or close the error message window with NVDA, Window-Eyes comes back to life. The point is that I end up with two screen readers running simultaneously. I always assumed this would mess with the screen reader flag status. And stumbling upon this offered me a golden opportunity to get away from my real work. So I wrote a little program to check the screen reader and keyboard preference flags. the latter is to indicate to developers that you want keyboard access rather than a mouse driven interface. I doubt anyone uses or pays any attention to this because if they did a purely mouse driven graphical interface would be replaced by a keyboard driven interface with standard controls. At least that would be the best case scenario. Our screen readers don't set it to true anyway because the screen reader flag is saying the same thing. It's another case of the elements existing and not being used. Case in point, W3C web standards. But I digress. The driving force was that I've known about this for years and suspected that loading another screen reader atop an existing one and then unloading either would leave the screen reader flag false. My program confirmed my suspicion. I may have mentioned this before because I was told about this years ago. But I wanted a concrete answer. And I was curious as to whether it had been improved. Although I have been operating on my assumption ever since hearing about it initially. I ran my program with Window-Eyes running and then after unloading it. I then did the same with NVDA. I haven't installed JAWS on my new system yet, but I assume it will do the same. When one is loaded the screen reader flag is true and when it's not it's false. And if I load either while the other is running and then unload one of them I still have a screen reader running but the screen reader flag is false. The reason I wanted to know this for sure is that I thought if common sense had prevailed there would have been a simple screen reader counter. That way the true count could stack up and screen reader would not be false until the counter was zero, which is always false in programming logic. Evidently common sense didn't prevail on this one. So now you know. I recommend reloading your screen reader if you have to load and then unload another to get out of a jam. And here's the bonus prize! Narrator does not set the flag true. So you don't have to worry about it if you load Narrator atop another screen reader. Why this is is beyond comprehension. But Microsoft states it clearly on their developers network and my program confirmed it. I suppose they incorporated a seperate internal flag for Narrator. Who knows. Regards, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit
RE: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers.
Tom, I like the geeky nature of your post. I thought you had mentioned that you wrote a program to solve the problem. Is the program up for sale? If yes, how can I get it to snuggle up in my hands and at what cost? Thanks for sharing and for making me a bit more geekier than I deserve! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
