Re: Windows-10 Upgrade Question
Hi Butch, Thanks for the info regarding supervisors in your other post; maybe I’ll call the Disability Answer Desk on Monday and see if they can give me an extension. Thanks for the suggestion regarding the USB stick, although I think I’ll be still out of luck since most PCs don’t look to the USB ports for installation media unless they’ve been configured in the BIOS to do so; honestly, though, it’s worth a try. Regarding your.Image for Windows problem, it’s a thorny one because of the lack of speech, and this is what makes the talking Windows installer so great. Indeed, if you have your serial number, you could just reinstall Windows using it and then reinstall everything. I know it’s a bit of work, but it is a solution. Although I appreciate your confidence in my expertise, to be honest, I try to avoid setting up new hardware because of the problems we’re discussing. As I mentioned to you a while back, this is where the virtual machine comes in handy since it’s simply a matter of installing it once, and, as long as you back it up wherever, you’ll have it forever. Best, Rod Sent from my iPod > On Jan 13, 2018, at 8:21 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk >wrote: > > For a long time I have used a program called image for windows which works > very well for making an image of a drive. I use to boot from a dos disk and > restore back to the windows drive that way. You can not of course run it > from within windows to restore the same system, which brings me to my sort of > problem. I had to buy their latest version as I wanted to back up my seven > partition before I upgraded, just in case. > > I have used the talking windows seven boot disk, but never had any luck > getting my image for windows program to run there to restore an image, as it > has to be installed. Hope all this is making sense. I have not tried their > newest version yet. They do give you a way to automatically create a > bootable cd to restore an image, which of course doesn't have any speech. I > think their manual says it is a version of xp which runs their program. What > I'm wanting to do is to somehow make their cd come up talking, or find some > way to run the image program from the talking windows seven boot cd. > Just wondering if you've ever used this program. it is similar to and the > closest thing I've found to ghost which I used long long ago. If you are at > all interested in taking a look, I can send you the manual or whatever else > you might need. You are much much better at this sort of thing than I am. > > Thanks. Good luck on your upgrade. Later. > > BTW, I read somewhere that after the deadline, supervisors could still give > permission to do an upgrade. > > > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Windows-10 Upgrade Question
I used their media creater and put it on a usb drive. Don't know if that would help or not. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, Sorry you had to go through all that crap. Same thing happened to me the other day trying to upgrade a machine. Now I'm stuck waiting for a gadget needed to connect a burner to my other machine since the only burner I had was the one on the machine I tried to upgrade. Oops! Therefore, I have no way to burn the Windows 10 media to a disk before the 16th. Looks like that machine will have to remain at Windows 7 once I get my part and I can burn Bryan Smart's Talking Windows pre-installation disk which allows the installation of Windows 7. I ain't gonna cry over this. (smile) Of course, there is the possibility that Microsoft might offer another extension of the free upgrade. Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: January 11, 2018 7:54 PM To: Nick Sarames via TalkCc: Butch Bussen Subject: Re: Windows-10 Upgrade Question Yep, Rod is right. pro is $200 after the cut off date. I upgraded a couple of my machines just because. Not my main ones yet. Had lots of problems, long long story. In neither case would the upgrade program work. had to use their media creater and get full version and then did upgrade from that. Also, in both cases, window-eyes seemed to have a conflict leaving it. Had to do a uninstall and reinstall. First machine I had we set to run at startup and it just put the machine in a loop rebooting, so had to blow that completely away, so no way to go back to seven on that one. On the second machine, I set it not to run. When I tried, locked up the machine, so I just rebooted. Are we having fun yet? 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. rOn Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Thanks Rod, I realize there are issues with WE & 10, but as far as you know, can WE handle the basics? My hope was to be able to get comfortable (somewhat) with 10 before tackling Jaws. On 1/11/2018 7:12 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Nick, Well, all I can do is recommend that you read the following page carefully and I believe you will conclude that the upgrade is free until Jan. 16, and, after then, you'll be paying the usual cost of the version of Windows 10 you require: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: January 11, 2018 3:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Windows-10 Upgrade Question This is sort of one of those questions where, Mommy says no, but I'm hoping Daddy will say yes. I clicked on the Windows-10 upgrade, and I'm given the choice to run or save. I'd like to be able to save the file until after the free upgrade has passed (when a 3rd party (my sighted friend) can assist me. A rep from Microsoft disability says my request cannot be accomplished. Is this true? Is there any other way around it? And while I'm at it, how much will this upgrade cost after the deadline? Please Daddy? Thanks in advance. Nick ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this
RE: Windows-10 Upgrade Question
For a long time I have used a program called image for windows which works very well for making an image of a drive. I use to boot from a dos disk and restore back to the windows drive that way. You can not of course run it from within windows to restore the same system, which brings me to my sort of problem. I had to buy their latest version as I wanted to back up my seven partition before I upgraded, just in case. I have used the talking windows seven boot disk, but never had any luck getting my image for windows program to run there to restore an image, as it has to be installed. Hope all this is making sense. I have not tried their newest version yet. They do give you a way to automatically create a bootable cd to restore an image, which of course doesn't have any speech. I think their manual says it is a version of xp which runs their program. What I'm wanting to do is to somehow make their cd come up talking, or find some way to run the image program from the talking windows seven boot cd. Just wondering if you've ever used this program. it is similar to and the closest thing I've found to ghost which I used long long ago. If you are at all interested in taking a look, I can send you the manual or whatever else you might need. You are much much better at this sort of thing than I am. Thanks. Good luck on your upgrade. Later. BTW, I read somewhere that after the deadline, supervisors could still give permission to do an upgrade. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4
After you do an emergency uninstall from the WE CD, you can go to%appdata% and delete the GWMicro folder. When I updated to the Fall Creator I had WE 9.5.4 and I did not have to uninstall it. I did have to uninstall ZT. - Original Message - From: Russ Kiehne via Talk To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Russ Kiehne Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4 It's probably in the windows registry. -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:23 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4 Windows seems to be very fussy about if you have any old versions around, not installed, but in even a .zip file or in a folder anywhere on your drive -- see if you can find them and remove them all and try again. On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:48:49 -0500, David Crowell via Talk wrote: > > Hi I have been trying for several weeks to do the windows 10 upgrade to > creator but am having no luck. I have had sighted assistance and still > can > not get things to install properly. Here is the issue. > I know wE had to be removed for the installation so that was done. Then > the > download and install of creator was taking place when I got a message > saying > WE 9.1 and 9.2 had to be removed from the computer before creator could > install. > > This makes no sense at all because in the add remove programs WE 9.5.4 is > the only WE program on this computer. WE was installed from a disc so I > am > at my wits end on how to get creator downloaded and installed. > Any help would be greatly appreciated because I am tired of getting > messages > constantly saying windows creator can not be installed and to click this > link to fix the issue. Yes, this has been done several times but > constantly > get the message about older versions of WE. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > > Dave > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4
It's probably in the windows registry. -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:23 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4 Windows seems to be very fussy about if you have any old versions around, not installed, but in even a .zip file or in a folder anywhere on your drive -- see if you can find them and remove them all and try again. On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 00:48:49 -0500, David Crowell via Talk wrote: Hi I have been trying for several weeks to do the windows 10 upgrade to creator but am having no luck. I have had sighted assistance and still can not get things to install properly. Here is the issue. I know wE had to be removed for the installation so that was done. Then the download and install of creator was taking place when I got a message saying WE 9.1 and 9.2 had to be removed from the computer before creator could install. This makes no sense at all because in the add remove programs WE 9.5.4 is the only WE program on this computer. WE was installed from a disc so I am at my wits end on how to get creator downloaded and installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated because I am tired of getting messages constantly saying windows creator can not be installed and to click this link to fix the issue. Yes, this has been done several times but constantly get the message about older versions of WE. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4
Hi David, Yes, John's advice about removing any older versions of Window-Eyes installers residing on any disks on your system is right on the mark. The same thing happened to me and I couldn't understand what was going on. What I did was to use the search box on the Start menu to search for the word window-eyes. Once I found a result, I pressed the Applications key or Shift-F10 to bring up a context menu and then arrow down to open file location. It was sufficient in my case to place my Window-Eyes installers in a zip archive and leave them in their original locations so they could stay handy. I found that this was sufficient to hide them from the Windows 10 installer. Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David Crowell via Talk Sent: January 13, 2018 12:49 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'Cc: David Crowell Subject: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4 Hi I have been trying for several weeks to do the windows 10 upgrade to creator but am having no luck. I have had sighted assistance and still can not get things to install properly. Here is the issue. I know wE had to be removed for the installation so that was done. Then the download and install of creator was taking place when I got a message saying WE 9.1 and 9.2 had to be removed from the computer before creator could install. This makes no sense at all because in the add remove programs WE 9.5.4 is the only WE program on this computer. WE was installed from a disc so I am at my wits end on how to get creator downloaded and installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated because I am tired of getting messages constantly saying windows creator can not be installed and to click this link to fix the issue. Yes, this has been done several times but constantly get the message about older versions of WE. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4
It sounds like you've gotten the best advice for this. If none of it works, you may have entries in your registry that need to be removed. Surely, this will not b the case. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:48 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4 Hi I have been trying for several weeks to do the windows 10 upgrade to creator but am having no luck. I have had sighted assistance and still can not get things to install properly. Here is the issue. I know wE had to be removed for the installation so that was done. Then the download and install of creator was taking place when I got a message saying WE 9.1 and 9.2 had to be removed from the computer before creator could install. This makes no sense at all because in the add remove programs WE 9.5.4 is the only WE program on this computer. WE was installed from a disc so I am at my wits end on how to get creator downloaded and installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated because I am tired of getting messages constantly saying windows creator can not be installed and to click this link to fix the issue. Yes, this has been done several times but constantly get the message about older versions of WE. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com