Re: help restoring XP computer

[James via Talk]

Hi.

That is why you use the Custom_system_restore App. You can do it in 3 key 
strokes.
- Original Message - 
From: "peter Chin via Talk" 
To: "Carol and Roger via Talk" 
Cc: "peter Chin" 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: help restoring XP computer


As far as restoring is concerned, I regret to say that I have not found
Window-Eyes very helpful. Jaws seem to be better for this.

-Original Message- 
From: Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:55 AM
To: Carol and Roger via Talk
Cc: Butch Bussen
Subject: Re: help restoring XP computer

I use nero, and I have a version for xp if he wants it.  Go to start,
then programs, then system tools.  Arrow down a bit and you'll see
restore.  I've never done thisk, so don't know how well or if it talks
well.  you also might try sfc, that is system file checker, I forget the
command line switches.  I can do some more idigging for you if needed.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


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Sun, 18 Feb 2018, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> My brother is running an old XP computer with Window-Eyes.  He has it in
> his basement and it is not on line.  Recently, he wanted to burn a CD and
> it would not work.  He had a similar problem on his regular PC and a
> restoration fixed the issue.  He can not find out how to do a system
> restore on the XP machine.  I know there are still a few XP users here and
> thought I would see if they had any suggestions.  Thanks.
>
> Carol
>
>
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Re: question about window-eyes

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

Sometimes various programs temporarily grab the focus while they are 
updating, then relinquish it and redraw the part of the screen where you 
have been working. Also, this verbiage could be related to where the mouse 
pointer is located on the screen. In addition to all that, sometimes I hear 
something that I placed on the clipboard a considerable time earlier, and it 
is not related to what I am doing at the moment.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:10 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: question about window-eyes

I am using the latest version of window-eyes, windows 10, and text cloner 
pro for the OCR program.  Window-eyes talks to itself whenever I’m away from 
the computer.  It might speak the date, time, or it will grab the subject 
line from other e-mails.  At times it will stop speaking in the middle of an 
e-mail and it is necessary to start over again.  I use wifi which is in the 
apartment building.  Any ideas as to what’s going on?  Thanks.


Norene

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Re: help restoring XP computer

[peter Chin via Talk]

As far as restoring is concerned, I regret to say that I have not found 
Window-Eyes very helpful. Jaws seem to be better for this.


-Original Message- 
From: Butch Bussen via Talk

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:55 AM
To: Carol and Roger via Talk
Cc: Butch Bussen
Subject: Re: help restoring XP computer

I use nero, and I have a version for xp if he wants it.  Go to start,
then programs, then system tools.  Arrow down a bit and you'll see
restore.  I've never done thisk, so don't know how well or if it talks
well.  you also might try sfc, that is system file checker, I forget the
command line switches.  I can do some more idigging for you if needed.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


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Hi Group,

My brother is running an old XP computer with Window-Eyes.  He has it in 
his basement and it is not on line.  Recently, he wanted to burn a CD and 
it would not work.  He had a similar problem on his regular PC and a 
restoration fixed the issue.  He can not find out how to do a system 
restore on the XP machine.  I know there are still a few XP users here and 
thought I would see if they had any suggestions.  Thanks.


Carol


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Re: help restoring XP computer

[peter Chin via Talk]

Talking of Windows XP, what antivirus would users of that system recommend? 
Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:41 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: help restoring XP computer

Hi Group,

My brother is running an old XP computer with Window-Eyes.  He has it in
his basement and it is not on line.  Recently, he wanted to burn a CD
and it would not work.  He had a similar problem on his regular PC and a
restoration fixed the issue.  He can not find out how to do a system
restore on the XP  machine.  I know there are still a few XP users here
and thought I would see if they had any suggestions.  Thanks.

Carol


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window eyes will not work with win10 version1803

[Dennis via Talk]

I saw on a windows 10 mailing list that windowEyes will not work with the next 
version of win10.
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question about window-eyes

[Norene Trappa via Talk]

I am using the latest version of window-eyes, windows 10, and text cloner pro 
for the OCR program.  Window-eyes talks to itself whenever I’m away from the 
computer.  It might speak the date, time, or it will grab the subject line from 
other e-mails.  At times it will stop speaking in the middle of an e-mail and 
it is necessary to start over again.  I use wifi which is in the apartment 
building.  Any ideas as to what’s going on?  Thanks.

Norene

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Re: Version 9.5.4

[Loy Green via Talk]

Open the WE  control panel with control backslash and go to about under the 
help menu.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patricia Krinke via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Cc: Patricia Krinke 
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 3:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4


  How does one get to the serial number nowadays?  I have forgotten how, and 
  maybe it doesn't matter anymore.


  Trish

  -Original Message- 
  From: Loy Green via Talk
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:01 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Cc: Loy Green
  Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4

  Contact VFO. They were giving out links to download, but not sure if they 
  are still doing so.
- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk
To: Rod Hutton
Cc: Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:33 PM
Subject: Version 9.5.4


Hello,

I need to reinstall Window-eyes 9.5.4 but cannot locate my CD.  I do of 
  course have my serial number but want to know if there is somewhere from 
  where I can download the CD.

Thanks.

Don Roberts
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Re: Version 9.5.4

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

Hi,

Go to the control panel and open help
You will find the serial number under about, after you tab one time.

Carol


On 2/19/2018 3:15 PM, Patricia Krinke via Talk wrote:

How does one get to the serial number nowadays?  I have forgotten how, and
maybe it doesn't matter anymore.


Trish

-Original Message-
From: Loy Green via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:01 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Loy Green
Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4

Contact VFO. They were giving out links to download, but not sure if they
are still doing so.
   - Original Message -
   From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk
   To: Rod Hutton
   Cc: Donald L. Roberts
   Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:33 PM
   Subject: Version 9.5.4


   Hello,

   I need to reinstall Window-eyes 9.5.4 but cannot locate my CD.  I do of
course have my serial number but want to know if there is somewhere from
where I can download the CD.

   Thanks.

   Don Roberts
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Re: Version 9.5.4

[Patricia Krinke via Talk]

How does one get to the serial number nowadays?  I have forgotten how, and 
maybe it doesn't matter anymore.


Trish

-Original Message- 
From: Loy Green via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:01 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Loy Green
Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4

Contact VFO. They were giving out links to download, but not sure if they 
are still doing so.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk
  To: Rod Hutton
  Cc: Donald L. Roberts
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:33 PM
  Subject: Version 9.5.4


  Hello,

  I need to reinstall Window-eyes 9.5.4 but cannot locate my CD.  I do of 
course have my serial number but want to know if there is somewhere from 
where I can download the CD.

  Thanks.

  Don Roberts
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Re: Version 9.5.4

[Loy Green via Talk]

Contact VFO. They were giving out links to download, but not sure if they are 
still doing so.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk 
  To: Rod Hutton 
  Cc: Donald L. Roberts 
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:33 PM
  Subject: Version 9.5.4


  Hello,

  I need to reinstall Window-eyes 9.5.4 but cannot locate my CD.  I do of 
course have my serial number but want to know if there is somewhere from where 
I can download the CD.

  Thanks.

  Don Roberts
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Version 9.5.4

[Donald L. Roberts via Talk]

Hello,

I need to reinstall Window-eyes 9.5.4 but cannot locate my CD.  I do of course 
have my serial number but want to know if there is somewhere from where I can 
download the CD.

Thanks.

Don Roberts
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RE: Help with Jaws, please!

[Rebecca Lineberger via Talk]

Paulette,
As others have said, your Microsoft commands will work as they always did.
If you have access to Bookshare, there is a book about Windows 10, and I
think Bard has it too.
These may not be the issues in the way you listed them, but here are a few
helpful hints, I hope.
You can use control-f to search for text in Word, but with JAWS, I find
their search command works more reliably.
As you may remember, on the internet, their search command is control-f,
with repeat find, f3.  But in Word, the JAWS find command is
insert-control-f, with the repeat find insert-f3.
JAWS finds the text right away and you are still in the text of your
document, so you don't have to press escape to close the search.
You can use Word to search for your documents.  I'm using Word 2010.  I
press control-o and shift-tab back twice and I'm in the list of folders in
Documents.
You can also just access your documents through File Explorer, Windows
key-e, and press enter to open the file.
Word 2016 and 365 may be slightly different.
I will write more later if that would help.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:06 PM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Paulette Vickery
Subject: RE: Help with Jaws, please!

Thanks so much for your rapid response. So far, you are the only one who has
graciously answered some of my questions. I found out that the reason I
couldn't read documents was that when I tabbed through the choices, I had to
stop on something about, shell, then arrow down through the list. Why on
earth I had to hear shell in order to do this, I have no idea. Also, I still
can't stop Jaws from going into 40 minute mode. It is quite frustrating.
Also, I found that I am unable to search a document for a word. I tried
searching for the word, mode, and I was able to do it once by using control
f, but after using it one time, when I tried to search using the exact same
key strokes again, it wouldn't search. Someone please help. Thanks.

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: RE: Help with Jaws, please!

Paulette, when it comes to Word and Jaws, you should be using the standard
Windows command you already know.  Example, Ctrl-O brings up the Open
dialogue and you can type in the name of whichever file you wish to open.
First letter navigation should also be possible once the Open dialogue is
invoked.  In essence, you do not need a specialised Jaws keystroke to find
stuff in Word.  Oh well, I don't use whatever keystrokes Window-Eyes
scripted for Word; I just use what Windows has to offer me and it works like
a charm.  

Also, you can press the Windows key to launch the Search Edit Box.  Here,
type "documents" without the quotes of course.  Once Documents has focus,
press  and you can use FIRST LETTER navigation to find your file.
once you find the file you wish to open, press  and, if it's a Word
file, the file will open in Word.

To read E-mail, launch your mail reader--Outlook, or whatever E-mail client
you use.  Press  on the message you wish to read.  Sometimes, reading
may not begin from the top.  In that instance, press ctrl-home to get to the
top, then use Insert-Down Arrow to read your mail.  

You can customize how you want stuff done when in the mail reader.  Press
Insert-V, go through the various list of customisations  and select the ones
that meet your needs.  Be patient as you customise the look and feel for
mail reading purposes.  Remember to save your settings when done!

When you talk about control panel analogous to that of Window-Eyes, what
exactly are you trying to accomplish in Jaws?  Jaws's approach is quite
different from that of GW Micro's Window-Eyes!  Example:  Insert-J will put
you in the Jaws Context Menu and you can perform some customisations here
using your up and down arrow keys to go through the list of what's possible
and following the prompts.  

I can't fathom why Jaws would keep running in 40-minute mode when you have
already entered an authorization code.  For that one, consider giving V F O
or whatever name it goes by a call.  

Hmm, I'm not sure I'll consider joining the Jaws mailing list.  For one
thing, their moderators are not as tolerant as this list is.  I'd say ask
your questions here and I believe that the brilliant minds here will step up
to the plate.  I don't recall the Jaws users mailing list subscription info,
I do know, however, that the list is on groups.io.  If you type Jaws Users
Mailing List into Google to perform a search, quite a few of them should
come up fast and furious.

I trust the foregoing helps some; others will no doubt chip 

RE: Help with Jaws, please!

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Paulette, as a new Jaws user, I'm not to best to help you but a tip I can
pass on in respect of searching within word is that it is simpler to use the
search and replace command rather than the "find" command.
So, instead of using control  for "find", use control H, which is the
shortcut for "search and replace". This means that if you want to repeat the
search, you just shift tab twice, or maybe three times, and press enter and
it rtepeats the "find". 
I don't recognise many of the problems you are experiencing, which is why I
have not responded and, as a new Windows 10, Office 365 and Jaws user, I'm
still on a stepp learning curve myself. 
All I can say is that all your Microsoft commands should operate as they
used to Window-eyes. So, when you want to open a document you have created,
you should be able to open Word, press control o for open and then tab twice
to see all your recently opened documents.
I am wondering if you too have recently updated to Windows 10?  
I have also found the short tutorial designed for Window-eyes users
migrating to Jaws very helpful.   muysebut when I havyou are probably better
some tips 

Alison

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[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: 19 February 2018 02:06
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Cc: Paulette Vickery 
Subject: RE: Help with Jaws, please!

Thanks so much for your rapid response. So far, you are the only one who has
graciously answered some of my questions. I found out that the reason I
couldn't read documents was that when I tabbed through the choices, I had to
stop on something about, shell, then arrow down through the list. Why on
earth I had to hear shell in order to do this, I have no idea. Also, I still
can't stop Jaws from going into 40 minute mode. It is quite frustrating.
Also, I found that I am unable to search a document for a word. I tried
searching for the word, mode, and I was able to do it once by using control
f, but after using it one time, when I tried to search using the exact same
key strokes again, it wouldn't search. Someone please help. Thanks.

Paulette

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On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: RE: Help with Jaws, please!

Paulette, when it comes to Word and Jaws, you should be using the standard
Windows command you already know.  Example, Ctrl-O brings up the Open
dialogue and you can type in the name of whichever file you wish to open.
First letter navigation should also be possible once the Open dialogue is
invoked.  In essence, you do not need a specialised Jaws keystroke to find
stuff in Word.  Oh well, I don't use whatever keystrokes Window-Eyes
scripted for Word; I just use what Windows has to offer me and it works like
a charm.  

Also, you can press the Windows key to launch the Search Edit Box.  Here,
type "documents" without the quotes of course.  Once Documents has focus,
press  and you can use FIRST LETTER navigation to find your file.
once you find the file you wish to open, press  and, if it's a Word
file, the file will open in Word.

To read E-mail, launch your mail reader--Outlook, or whatever E-mail client
you use.  Press  on the message you wish to read.  Sometimes, reading
may not begin from the top.  In that instance, press ctrl-home to get to the
top, then use Insert-Down Arrow to read your mail.  

You can customize how you want stuff done when in the mail reader.  Press
Insert-V, go through the various list of customisations  and select the ones
that meet your needs.  Be patient as you customise the look and feel for
mail reading purposes.  Remember to save your settings when done!

When you talk about control panel analogous to that of Window-Eyes, what
exactly are you trying to accomplish in Jaws?  Jaws's approach is quite
different from that of GW Micro's Window-Eyes!  Example:  Insert-J will put
you in the Jaws Context Menu and you can perform some customisations here
using your up and down arrow keys to go through the list of what's possible
and following the prompts.  

I can't fathom why Jaws would keep running in 40-minute mode when you have
already entered an authorization code.  For that one, consider giving V F O
or whatever name it goes by a call.  

Hmm, I'm not sure I'll consider joining the Jaws mailing list.  For one
thing, their moderators are not as tolerant as this list is.  I'd say ask
your questions here and I believe that the brilliant minds here will step up
to the plate.  I don't recall the Jaws users mailing list subscription info,
I do know, however, that the list is on groups.io.  If you type Jaws Users
Mailing List into Google to perform a search, quite