RE: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Netbat,

Well, I must admit to being a little squeamish about expecting Window-Eyes to 
unload the instance running in the default user account and then running it as 
administrator.
I simply think it's best to unload first and then load it as administrator.

With respect,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of net bat2 via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 2:05 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: net bat2 
Subject: Re: 2

if you are useing w e 9x you don't have to unload w e before you open the 
context menu.
just open a context menu on the w e icon and click on run as administrator.
w e will unload automatically and reload as administrator.


-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: 2

Hi Tom and Bob,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the goal was to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator in order to change the startup option.
If I am right here, then one would focus the desktop Window-Eyes icon, close 
down Window-Eyes using Ctrl-Insert-F4 and Enter, press the Applications key or 
Shift-F10 and then press the letter A in order to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator..

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 12:13 PM
To: Robert Ringwald via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: 2

The Application key is left of the right control key. It's just a replacement 
for Shift-F10, which works everywhere on my system.
Either should open a context menu. Properties is the item you want. It should 
be the last item in the list. So if the menu opens, try just arrowing up once.

On 4/8/2019 11:34 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
> SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Robert Ringwald
> Subject: Re: 2
>
> Tom,
>
> Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
> administrator?
>
> -Bob
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Tom Kingston
> Subject: Re: 2
>
> Thanks, John.
> Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
> Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
> Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
> Press the letter R for properties.
> Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
> check the check box to run it as an administrator.
> Press the OK button to close it.
> Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
> change the startup settings and save your settings.
> Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
> Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:
>> Its something they never fixed.
>>
>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
>> Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
>>> administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt rather
>>> than having to go to an admin account or change the file properties?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:
 I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

 On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
> I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
> As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make sure
> you're covering all the bases.
> Go to General, Startup Options.
> Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login Screen.
> Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
> Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
> Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
> button and press space bar.
> Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the global
> startup options radio button and make sure it's selected.
> Alternatively you can change it to never run Window-Eyes. But this
> is just the after logging in option. You want to make sure it's
> not running at the login screen. Changing both in the global
> options takes care of this.
> Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
> your settings.
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
>
> On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
>> 1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask
>> simple questions?
>>
>> 2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on
>> when computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not
>> save. I have the last version of W E.
>>
>> Also using Windows 10.
>>
>> questions
>> 

Re: Question ABout mlb.com

2019-04-08 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk

I don't like their new page either.  Try going to
mlb.com/mediacenter
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, Tom 
Kingston via Talk wrote:


I don't use the site. But part of the problem is probably using IE. Many 
sites don't support it any more. Development ended years ago and it's a 
security risk.


On 4/8/2019 11:25 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

 Running Windows 10
 Latest Window-Eyes
 or latest Jaws
 IE

 I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in.

 Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in.

 I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a
 new hard drive and can't find that URL.

 -Bob


 -Original Message- From: john schwery via Talk
 Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: john schwery
 Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com

 Robert, what browser and OS are you using?  I'm
 running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9.  I can access the games fine.

 At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote:
>  I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site.
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Re: 2

2019-04-08 Thread net bat2 via Talk
if you are useing w e 9x you don't have to unload w e before you open the 
context menu.

just open a context menu on the w e icon and click on run as administrator.
w e will unload automatically and reload as administrator.


-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: 2

Hi Tom and Bob,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the goal was to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator in order to change the startup option.
If I am right here, then one would focus the desktop Window-Eyes icon, close 
down Window-Eyes using Ctrl-Insert-F4 and Enter, press the Applications key or 
Shift-F10 and then press the letter A in order to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator..


Hth,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: April 8, 2019 12:13 PM
To: Robert Ringwald via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: 2

The Application key is left of the right control key. It's just a replacement 
for Shift-F10, which works everywhere on my system.
Either should open a context menu. Properties is the item you want. It should 
be the last item in the list. So if the menu opens, try just arrowing up once.


On 4/8/2019 11:34 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.

-Bob


-Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

Tom,

Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
administrator?

-Bob


-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: 2

Thanks, John.
Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
Press the letter R for properties.
Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
check the check box to run it as an administrator.
Press the OK button to close it.
Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
change the startup settings and save your settings.
Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:

Its something they never fixed.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt rather
than having to go to an admin account or change the file properties?


On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Hi Bob,
I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make sure
you're covering all the bases.
Go to General, Startup Options.
Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login Screen.
Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
button and press space bar.
Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the global
startup options radio button and make sure it's selected.
Alternatively you can change it to never run Window-Eyes. But this
is just the after logging in option. You want to make sure it's
not running at the login screen. Changing both in the global
options takes care of this.
Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
your settings.
Hth,
Tom



On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask
simple questions?

2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on
when computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not
save. I have the last version of W E.

Also using Windows 10.

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Re: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

Yes, you're right, Rod.

On 4/8/2019 12:49 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Tom and Bob,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the goal was to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator in order to change the startup option.
If I am right here, then one would focus the desktop Window-Eyes icon, close 
down Window-Eyes using Ctrl-Insert-F4 and Enter, press the Applications key or 
Shift-F10 and then press the letter A in order to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator..

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 12:13 PM
To: Robert Ringwald via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: 2

The Application key is left of the right control key. It's just a replacement 
for Shift-F10, which works everywhere on my system.
Either should open a context menu. Properties is the item you want. It should 
be the last item in the list. So if the menu opens, try just arrowing up once.

On 4/8/2019 11:34 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.

-Bob


-Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

Tom,

Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
administrator?

-Bob


-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: 2

Thanks, John.
Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
Press the letter R for properties.
Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
check the check box to run it as an administrator.
Press the OK button to close it.
Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
change the startup settings and save your settings.
Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:

Its something they never fixed.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt rather
than having to go to an admin account or change the file properties?


On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Hi Bob,
I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make sure
you're covering all the bases.
Go to General, Startup Options.
Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login Screen.
Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
button and press space bar.
Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the global
startup options radio button and make sure it's selected.
Alternatively you can change it to never run Window-Eyes. But this
is just the after logging in option. You want to make sure it's
not running at the login screen. Changing both in the global
options takes care of this.
Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
your settings.
Hth,
Tom



On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask
simple questions?

2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on
when computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not
save. I have the last version of W E.

Also using Windows 10.

questions
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RE: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Tom and Bob,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the goal was to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator in order to change the startup option.
If I am right here, then one would focus the desktop Window-Eyes icon, close 
down Window-Eyes using Ctrl-Insert-F4 and Enter, press the Applications key or 
Shift-F10 and then press the letter A in order to run Window-Eyes as 
administrator..

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 12:13 PM
To: Robert Ringwald via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: 2

The Application key is left of the right control key. It's just a replacement 
for Shift-F10, which works everywhere on my system.
Either should open a context menu. Properties is the item you want. It should 
be the last item in the list. So if the menu opens, try just arrowing up once.

On 4/8/2019 11:34 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
> SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.
> 
> -Bob
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Robert Ringwald
> Subject: Re: 2
> 
> Tom,
> 
> Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as 
> administrator?
> 
> -Bob
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Tom Kingston
> Subject: Re: 2
> 
> Thanks, John.
> Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
> Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
> Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
> Press the letter R for properties.
> Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
> check the check box to run it as an administrator.
> Press the OK button to close it.
> Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
> change the startup settings and save your settings.
> Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
> Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:
>> Its something they never fixed.
>>
>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
>> Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an 
>>> administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt rather 
>>> than having to go to an admin account or change the file properties?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:
 I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

 On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
> I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
> As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make sure 
> you're covering all the bases.
> Go to General, Startup Options.
> Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login Screen. 
> Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
> Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
> Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
> button and press space bar.
> Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the global 
> startup options radio button and make sure it's selected. 
> Alternatively you can change it to never run Window-Eyes. But this 
> is just the after logging in option. You want to make sure it's 
> not running at the login screen. Changing both in the global 
> options takes care of this.
> Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save 
> your settings.
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
>
> On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
>> 1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask 
>> simple questions?
>>
>> 2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on 
>> when computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not 
>> save. I have the last version of W E.
>>
>> Also using Windows 10.
>>
>> questions
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Re: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
The Application key is left of the right control key. It's just a 
replacement for Shift-F10, which works everywhere on my system.
Either should open a context menu. Properties is the item you want. It 
should be the last item in the list. So if the menu opens, try just 
arrowing up once.


On 4/8/2019 11:34 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.

-Bob


-Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

Tom,

Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
administrator?

-Bob


-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: 2

Thanks, John.
Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
Press the letter R for properties.
Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
check the check box to run it as an administrator.
Press the OK button to close it.
Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
change the startup settings and save your settings.
Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:

Its something they never fixed.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt
rather than having to go to an admin account or change the file
properties?


On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Hi Bob,
I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make
sure you're covering all the bases.
Go to General, Startup Options.
Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login
Screen. Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
button and press space bar.
Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the
global startup options radio button and make sure it's
selected. Alternatively you can change it to never run
Window-Eyes. But this is just the after logging in option. You
want to make sure it's not running at the login screen. Changing
both in the global options takes care of this.
Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
your settings.
Hth,
Tom



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have the last version of W E.

Also using Windows 10.

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Re: Question ABout mlb.com

2019-04-08 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
I don't use the site. But part of the problem is probably using IE. Many 
sites don't support it any more. Development ended years ago and it's a 
security risk.


On 4/8/2019 11:25 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

Running Windows 10
Latest Window-Eyes
or latest Jaws
IE

I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in.

Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in.

I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a
new hard drive and can't find that URL.

-Bob


-Original Message- From: john schwery via Talk
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: john schwery
Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com

Robert, what browser and OS are you using?  I'm
running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9.  I can access the games fine.

At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote:

I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site.
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RE: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Bob,

The icon on the desktop is the one to focus on rather than the one on the start 
menu.

Hth,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Ringwald 
Subject: Re: 2

Yes, I used key describer in W E and found the applications key.

I go to the W E short cut on my start menu and use either the applications key, 
or shift F 10, but it does nothing.

-Bob



-Original Message-
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 8:41 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Pamela Dominguez
Subject: Re: 2

Okay, sorry I'm popping in in the middle of this.  Do you have a regular 
keyboard?  If you do, it's on the righthand side, between the alt and the 
control.  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 11:34 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.

-Bob


-Original Message-
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

Tom,

Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as 
administrator?

-Bob


-Original Message-
From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: 2

Thanks, John.
Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
Press the letter R for properties.
Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
check the check box to run it as an administrator.
Press the OK button to close it.
Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
change the startup settings and save your settings.
Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:
> Its something they never fixed.
>
> On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
> Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>>
>> Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an 
>> administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt rather 
>> than having to go to an admin account or change the file properties?
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:
>>> I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400,
>>> Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

 Hi Bob,
 I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
 As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make sure 
 you're covering all the bases.
 Go to General, Startup Options.
 Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login Screen. 
 Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
 Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
 Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
 button and press space bar.
 Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the global 
 startup options radio button and make sure it's selected. 
 Alternatively you can change it to never run Window-Eyes. But this 
 is just the after logging in option. You want to make sure it's not 
 running at the login screen. Changing both in the global options 
 takes care of this.
 Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save 
 your settings.
 Hth,
 Tom



 On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
> 1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask 
> simple questions?
>
> 2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on when 
> computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not save. 
> I have the last version of W E.
>
> Also using Windows 10.
>
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Re: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk

Yes, I used key describer in W E and found the applications key.

I go to the W E short cut on my start menu and use either the applications 
key, or shift F 10, but it does nothing.


-Bob



-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 8:41 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Pamela Dominguez
Subject: Re: 2

Okay, sorry I'm popping in in the middle of this.  Do you have a regular
keyboard?  If you do, it's on the righthand side, between the alt and the
control.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 11:34 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

Tom,

Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
administrator?

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: 2

Thanks, John.
Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
Press the letter R for properties.
Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
check the check box to run it as an administrator.
Press the OK button to close it.
Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
change the startup settings and save your settings.
Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:

Its something they never fixed.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt
rather than having to go to an admin account or change the file
properties?


On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Hi Bob,
I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make
sure you're covering all the bases.
Go to General, Startup Options.
Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login
Screen. Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
button and press space bar.
Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the
global startup options radio button and make sure it's
selected. Alternatively you can change it to never run
Window-Eyes. But this is just the after logging in option. You
want to make sure it's not running at the login screen. Changing
both in the global options takes care of this.
Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
your settings.
Hth,
Tom



On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask
simple questions?

2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on when
computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not save. I
have the last version of W E.

Also using Windows 10.

questions
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Re: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Okay, sorry I'm popping in in the middle of this.  Do you have a regular 
keyboard?  If you do, it's on the righthand side, between the alt and the 
control.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 11:34 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

Tom,

Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
administrator?

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: 2

Thanks, John.
Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
Press the letter R for properties.
Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
check the check box to run it as an administrator.
Press the OK button to close it.
Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
change the startup settings and save your settings.
Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:

Its something they never fixed.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt
rather than having to go to an admin account or change the file
properties?


On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Hi Bob,
I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make
sure you're covering all the bases.
Go to General, Startup Options.
Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login
Screen. Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
button and press space bar.
Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the
global startup options radio button and make sure it's
selected. Alternatively you can change it to never run
Window-Eyes. But this is just the after logging in option. You
want to make sure it's not running at the login screen. Changing
both in the global options takes care of this.
Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
your settings.
Hth,
Tom



On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask
simple questions?

2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on when
computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not save. I
have the last version of W E.

Also using Windows 10.

questions
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Re: 2

2019-04-08 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk

SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: 2

Tom,

Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
administrator?

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: 2

Thanks, John.
Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
Press the letter R for properties.
Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
check the check box to run it as an administrator.
Press the OK button to close it.
Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
change the startup settings and save your settings.
Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
Hth,
Tom


On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:

Its something they never fixed.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt
rather than having to go to an admin account or change the file
properties?


On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:

I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400,
Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Hi Bob,
I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make
sure you're covering all the bases.
Go to General, Startup Options.
Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login
Screen. Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
button and press space bar.
Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the
global startup options radio button and make sure it's
selected. Alternatively you can change it to never run
Window-Eyes. But this is just the after logging in option. You
want to make sure it's not running at the login screen. Changing
both in the global options takes care of this.
Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
your settings.
Hth,
Tom



On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask
simple questions?

2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on when
computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not save. I
have the last version of W E.

Also using Windows 10.

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Re: Question ABout mlb.com

2019-04-08 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk

Running Windows 10
Latest Window-Eyes
or latest Jaws
IE

I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in.

Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in.

I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a
new hard drive and can't find that URL.

-Bob


-Original Message- 
From: john schwery via Talk

Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: john schwery
Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com

Robert, what browser and OS are you using?  I'm
running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9.  I can access the games fine.

At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote:

I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site.
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