RE: email

2019-11-09 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tony and others, there's an E-mail app I'd like to have tested.  No, I
didn't write it, yikes, not too good at writing my own name let alone create
an app, 

Ok, the E-mail app is called BlueMail.  I tried playing with it, but I was
hitting brickwalls.  I suspect there's something I was doing wrong, but I
can't put a finger on it.  So, may be if others help test, they'll discover
my silly errors and I can be a happy camper deploying the app.

You can find a Windows version at:

www.bluemail.com

The Mobile version, which has ensconced itself on my Shiny Android Toys,
work superbly well.  

Ok, I'll go continue to cheer Notre Dame U to victory whilst I await better
findings on this app than I had succeeded in doing.  Gracious thanks one and
all!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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Re: email

2019-11-09 Thread net bat via Talk

the biggest risk is the user.
clicking on links in the message and opening attachments. opening auvious spam 
mail etc.
i don't know where to download the off line installation for wlm. but this 
should install without microsofts permission. grin.
as far as google they want you to think that every email client is a security 
risk except there own products.
you have to log into your google account and go to your security settings and 
check the options to allow unsecure programs before you can send and recieve 
google mail. google will block you if you don't do this.

this applies to wlm,thunderbird and severl versions of outlook.


-Original Message- 
From: tony c via Talk

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tony c
Subject: RE: email

I have a gmail account and it does work but there’s a lot of crap on the screen 
that I really don’t want to weed thru everytime I was to check my email. Lol. I 
don’t think you can download WLM anymore and it isn’t supported so there’s a 
security risk.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: email

I use WLM successfully with Jaws and Window-eyes both and it is free.

Lots of blind folks use gmail successfully, and it is also free.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- 
From: tony c via Talk

Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tony c
Subject: RE: email

It doesn’t work well with Jaws either, It’s useable but that about all I”ll
say for it.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:01 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: email

Tony,

I know of others using Windows Mail with some success with other screen
readers.  Have you tried it with NVDA or Narrator to see if you have the
same issues that you are having with Window-Eyes?  One of the issues that
will be faced for certain at some point is that other screen readers are
doing a lot on an on-going basis to keep up with changes to programs like
Outlook, and even Window-Eyes is still using a lot of the work done in the
past.  It is possible that some aspects of Windows Mail could work better
with the right Window-Eyes "app" but it isn't that easy to make that happen
now.

The Becky email program is not free but is only something like $35 and there
is no charge for upgrades.  You have to change a few settings and the
interface is a little different but I believe it is still working with
Window-Eyes.  That might be worth a look and they have a trial period.  You
can check out

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm#download

but remember you have to disable the "Line Pointer" in the "edit" tab of
"general Setup and also the "Four Way Cursor" option in the Message tab of
the same dialog.  This simply means unchecking the associated check boxes.
That program is still being updated but their updates seem to be very
carefully done.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the
cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft
regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the
best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple
Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little
of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail
program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


joseph hudson

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RE: email

2019-11-09 Thread tony c via Talk
I have a gmail account and it does work but there’s a lot of crap on the screen 
that I really don’t want to weed thru everytime I was to check my email. Lol. I 
don’t think you can download WLM anymore and it isn’t supported so there’s a 
security risk.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: email

I use WLM successfully with Jaws and Window-eyes both and it is free.

Lots of blind folks use gmail successfully, and it is also free.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- 
From: tony c via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tony c
Subject: RE: email

It doesn’t work well with Jaws either, It’s useable but that about all I”ll
say for it.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:01 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: email

Tony,

I know of others using Windows Mail with some success with other screen
readers.  Have you tried it with NVDA or Narrator to see if you have the
same issues that you are having with Window-Eyes?  One of the issues that
will be faced for certain at some point is that other screen readers are
doing a lot on an on-going basis to keep up with changes to programs like
Outlook, and even Window-Eyes is still using a lot of the work done in the
past.  It is possible that some aspects of Windows Mail could work better
with the right Window-Eyes "app" but it isn't that easy to make that happen
now.

The Becky email program is not free but is only something like $35 and there
is no charge for upgrades.  You have to change a few settings and the
interface is a little different but I believe it is still working with
Window-Eyes.  That might be worth a look and they have a trial period.  You
can check out

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm#download

but remember you have to disable the "Line Pointer" in the "edit" tab of
"general Setup and also the "Four Way Cursor" option in the Message tab of
the same dialog.  This simply means unchecking the associated check boxes.
That program is still being updated but their updates seem to be very
carefully done.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the
cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft
regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the
best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple
Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little
of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail
program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


joseph hudson

Technology support for the blind or better known as Mack, IOS and Windows
support

FaceTime, iMessage, and email

jhud7...@twc.com

Telephone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency cell

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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, tony c via Talk 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows
> 10, it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: email

2019-11-09 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk

I use WLM successfully with Jaws and Window-eyes both and it is free.

Lots of blind folks use gmail successfully, and it is also free.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- 
From: tony c via Talk

Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tony c
Subject: RE: email

It doesn’t work well with Jaws either, It’s useable but that about all I”ll
say for it.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:01 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: email

Tony,

I know of others using Windows Mail with some success with other screen
readers.  Have you tried it with NVDA or Narrator to see if you have the
same issues that you are having with Window-Eyes?  One of the issues that
will be faced for certain at some point is that other screen readers are
doing a lot on an on-going basis to keep up with changes to programs like
Outlook, and even Window-Eyes is still using a lot of the work done in the
past.  It is possible that some aspects of Windows Mail could work better
with the right Window-Eyes "app" but it isn't that easy to make that happen
now.

The Becky email program is not free but is only something like $35 and there
is no charge for upgrades.  You have to change a few settings and the
interface is a little different but I believe it is still working with
Window-Eyes.  That might be worth a look and they have a trial period.  You
can check out

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm#download

but remember you have to disable the "Line Pointer" in the "edit" tab of
"general Setup and also the "Four Way Cursor" option in the Message tab of
the same dialog.  This simply means unchecking the associated check boxes.
That program is still being updated but their updates seem to be very
carefully done.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the
cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft
regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the
best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple
Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little
of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail
program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


joseph hudson

Technology support for the blind or better known as Mack, IOS and Windows
support

FaceTime, iMessage, and email

jhud7...@twc.com

Telephone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency cell

254-813-2461

Twitter
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On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, tony c via Talk 
wrote:

Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows
10, it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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RE: email

2019-11-09 Thread tony c via Talk
It doesn’t work well with Jaws either, It’s useable but that about all I”ll say 
for it.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:01 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: email

Tony,

I know of others using Windows Mail with some success with other screen 
readers.  Have you tried it with NVDA or Narrator to see if you have the same 
issues that you are having with Window-Eyes?  One of the issues that will be 
faced for certain at some point is that other screen readers are doing a lot on 
an on-going basis to keep up with changes to programs like Outlook, and even 
Window-Eyes is still using a lot of the work done in the past.  It is possible 
that some aspects of Windows Mail could work better with the right Window-Eyes 
"app" but it isn't that easy to make that happen now.  

The Becky email program is not free but is only something like $35 and there is 
no charge for upgrades.  You have to change a few settings and the interface is 
a little different but I believe it is still working with Window-Eyes.  That 
might be worth a look and they have a trial period.  You can check out

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm#download

but remember you have to disable the "Line Pointer" in the "edit" tab of 
"general Setup and also the "Four Way Cursor" option in the Message tab of the 
same dialog.  This simply means unchecking the associated check boxes.  That 
program is still being updated but their updates seem to be very carefully done.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft regularly 
improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the best 
opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little of 
anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail program 
that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


joseph hudson

Technology support for the blind or better known as Mack, IOS and Windows 
support 

FaceTime, iMessage, and email

jhud7...@twc.com

Telephone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency cell

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Twitter
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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, tony c via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 10, 
> it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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RE: email

2019-11-09 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
Tony,

I know of others using Windows Mail with some success with other screen 
readers.  Have you tried it with NVDA or Narrator to see if you have the same 
issues that you are having with Window-Eyes?  One of the issues that will be 
faced for certain at some point is that other screen readers are doing a lot on 
an on-going basis to keep up with changes to programs like Outlook, and even 
Window-Eyes is still using a lot of the work done in the past.  It is possible 
that some aspects of Windows Mail could work better with the right Window-Eyes 
"app" but it isn't that easy to make that happen now.  

The Becky email program is not free but is only something like $35 and there is 
no charge for upgrades.  You have to change a few settings and the interface is 
a little different but I believe it is still working with Window-Eyes.  That 
might be worth a look and they have a trial period.  You can check out

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm#download

but remember you have to disable the "Line Pointer" in the "edit" tab of 
"general Setup and also the "Four Way Cursor" option in the Message tab of the 
same dialog.  This simply means unchecking the associated check boxes.  That 
program is still being updated but their updates seem to be very carefully done.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft regularly 
improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the best 
opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little of 
anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail program 
that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


joseph hudson

Technology support for the blind or better known as Mack, IOS and Windows 
support 

FaceTime, iMessage, and email

jhud7...@twc.com

Telephone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency cell

254-813-2461

Twitter
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> Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 10, 
> it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony
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wlm and mouse tracking.

2019-11-09 Thread net bat via Talk
i don't know either.  i only use windows live mail to send and recieve mail. i 
have never used or need to use any of the other functions. so i have never used 
window eyes with mouse tracking on.
tracking does work when you are in the to,from,bcc,and cc fields but i found 
this quite annoying with the added verbage so i turned mouse tracking back off.



-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 8:33 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Pamela Dominguez
Subject: Re: email

Really?  I can still use window eyes with windows live mail, and I haven't
noticed a difference.  So I don't know what you mean about window eyes
stopped tracking the cursor.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 8:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the
cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft
regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the
best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple
Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf
Of tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little
of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail
program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


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Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 10, 
it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony


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Re: email

2019-11-09 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
That's not necessarily true, though, because windows live mail is free, even 
though microsoft doesn't support it anymore, and that's what I'm using right 
this minute to email you.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: tony c via Talk

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 9:05 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tony c
Subject: RE: email

Hi, The thing here that I see is that in order for us using adaptive 
technology, being able touse an email program means we have to pay for it, 
when the rest of the “sighted” world uses dozens of them for free. I 
strongly disagree with this logic. It’s certainly not equal access. I only 
need a email program, don’t give a rat’s rear end about a Microsoft office 
or any of that. Tony


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the 
cursor.

This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft 
regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the 
best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple 
Mac.

I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk

Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf 
Of tony c via Talk

Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little 
of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail 
program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


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Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 
10, it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony


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Re: email

2019-11-09 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Really?  I can still use window eyes with windows live mail, and I haven't 
noticed a difference.  So I don't know what you mean about window eyes 
stopped tracking the cursor.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 8:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the 
cursor.

This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft 
regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the 
best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple 
Mac.

I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk

Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf 
Of tony c via Talk

Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little 
of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail 
program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


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Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 
10, it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony


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RE: email

2019-11-09 Thread tony c via Talk
Hi, The thing here that I see is that in order for us using adaptive 
technology, being able touse an email program means we have to pay for it, when 
the rest of the “sighted” world uses dozens of them for free. I strongly 
disagree with this logic. It’s certainly not equal access. I only need a email 
program, don’t give a rat’s rear end about a Microsoft office or any of that. 
Tony

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: email

Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft regularly 
improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the best 
opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little of 
anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail program 
that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


joseph hudson

Technology support for the blind or better known as Mack, IOS and Windows 
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jhud7...@twc.com

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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, tony c via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 10, 
> it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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RE: email

2019-11-09 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Darrell,

Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft regularly 
improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the best 
opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile

With respect,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Darrell Bowles 
Subject: RE: email

How about thunderbird?


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On Behalf Of 
tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: tony c 
Subject: RE: email

I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little of 
anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail program 
that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, tony c via Talk  
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> Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 10, 
> it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony
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