Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

2016-08-07 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

It gives you the anniversary edition.
On 8/7/2016 6:16 PM, via Talk wrote:

Hi,

Does the link to download give you windows 10 or windows 10 anniversary
addition?  Its not clear!

Thanks
On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 04:10:22 + Rod Hutton via Talk
 writes:

In future, to make your life easier, try this site for shortening
URLs:

https://bitly.com/

Ergo, the URL you supplied is:

http://bit.ly/2b03nG7

hth,

Rod

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Subject: Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

it appears that microsoft does not check your computer for a screen
reader.
you have to find this hidden web site and download a file that will
allow
you to get the free windows 10 upgrade after july 29

copy and paste the link into your browser if it will not activate
because it
is wrapping to the next line.



https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987
140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgH
FGI

6mQ)()

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Subject: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users



https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987
140
d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgH
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Re: the upgrade assistant says the display driver is blocking installation

2016-08-04 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
I spoke with AI today and if you delete the we display adapter you must 
reinstall we completely.


They recommended removing we with the removal tool on the cd if you have 
the latest update then installing win 10 and then reinstalling we from 
the cd.


On 8/4/2016 6:23 PM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:

Hi,


As I said before, my newer laptop upgraded right away with no problem 
at all.  I haven't seen the update on my older desktop which is 
running windows 10 version 1115.



My question is if I uninstall the WE display driver, what's the 
easiest way to reinstall it?





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Re: Problem with Eloquence dropping last sounds on words

2016-05-28 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
I am having the same issue with tbird 31 and the regular we voices. The 
last letter in many lines is not read.


Using win10 I could not find the setting in my sound card.  Is there 
another option to get we to read these lost letters?

On 5/25/2016 6:21 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

Try turning off sound card enhancements in the properties of your sound card.
Chris


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Subject: Problem with Eloquence dropping last sounds on words

A few weeks ago I noticed I was often not hearing many of the final
sounds on words. I'm using current Window-Eyes, paid version, with
Eloquence Reed. I found it happens with all Eloquence voices but no
other synthesizer. For example, If I listen to the word gift ten
different times about 90% of them is pronounced as gif without the t
sound. Another example, plus is usually pronounced pluh without the s
sound. I have adjusted both the rate of speech and the trigger delay
with no change.
Anyone have a suggestion of how to remedy this?
Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: truVoice multilingual

2016-04-08 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

I downloaded the file.  Where is it and which screen reader can use it?
On 4/8/2016 4:40 AM, Josh K via Talk wrote:

hi
here is the free truVoice multilingual sapi4 voices. there is english 
spanish french german and italian voices in this package.


http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/truvoice.exe




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Re: windows 10, W.E. 9.4 and ThunderBird

2016-04-01 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
This also happens to me.  I usually hit win+d to go to the desk top and 
then return to tbird and this solves the problem.


Other times you need to hit the alt/cntl/w reset to bring it back.

Tbird has 2 other  major issues for me.  The repeay of the first line 
and repeating a message in the in box after I have moved it toa folder.


I solved the first problem by opening messages in a new window instead 
of a tab.

On 3/31/2016 8:00 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there Group!
 I have had this issue with W.E. 9.4 if indeed it is a W.E. issue.  
What happpens is, when I am reading messages in ThunderBird every so 
often W.E.  just quits.  Sometimes I can simply wait and it will come 
back to life.  Other times I wait and wait and finally press 'Alt-F4' 
and am prompted with ThunderBird isn't responding' and I am given a 
couple choices.  1.  close ThunderBird and 2.  'Wait for the program 
to respond'.  If I choose the second, about half the time Thunderbird 
will begin working after about 15 to 30 seconds.  The rest of the time 
I am forced to press close program and then I have to restart it..?
I removed W.E. and reinstalled it a long with ThunderBird.  And this 
did nothing to solve the problem.  Okay, I hope I have covered all the 
bases and if so does anyone have any sort of solution?  Any advice 
would be GREATLY Appreciated! Much Thanks! & Have A Good 1! de

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Re: thunderbird and repeting what it has already read A second time

2016-03-08 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

This actually started much earlier and simply continues in 9.4

If you pay attention some emails repeat and some do not.  I thought it 
was related to html vs. plain text but I cannot easily confirm this.


WE repeats only the first word or sentence with a peruid and then reads 
the rest of the message correctly.

On 3/8/2016 6:52 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi ever sense I have upgraded my window-eyes to the latest version.
When I open A message in Thunderbird.
And it starts to read A message it will read put of the message and then.
Go back and read the first part over again.
I didn't do this before I upgraded.
So what can you change in window-eyes to fix this?
Or is there something that i have to set in Thunderbird to make this 
not happen?
If this is A window-eyes issue can you please look in to this and give 
us A way to fix it.





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Re: Win10 not updating

2016-03-04 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Are you talking about a build update, ie. 10240 to 10586 or regular 
security etc. updates?

On 3/4/2016 2:13 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk wrote:

As far as I can tell my version of win10 is not updating. Soon after the
installation of win10 I had a technician in and I think he may have turned
off Windows automatic updates. In any event I have been unable to find the
Windows update control. Can you please advise where I find that control and,
if it is turned off, how can I turned it on ?

Ivan Cribb

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Re: how to stop thunderbird repeting in the new window-eyes

2016-02-16 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
ii also have this all the time.  I suspect it has to do with emails in 
html or text format.  I cannot confirm this hypothesis since I cannot 
tell which emails are which but some emails repeat the first sentence 
and some do not.

On 2/16/2016 1:46 PM, Natalie via Talk wrote:
I have the same problem with Thunderbird repeating the subject line 
and Mozilla Thunderbird in the middle of messages.  It went away for 
the weekend but appeared again on Monday.  Thought it had repaired 
itself but no such luck.


Natalie

On 2/16/2016 4:26 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I have the latest window-eyes installed.
Now when I am reading A message in Thunderbird sometime it will be 
reading and then go along and `` what it just read.

Then it will read on like normal.
This only happens A few times.
So how do you make this not happen?




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Re: major thunderbird problems

2016-02-15 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

Have you tried using an earlier version of tb?

I found the later versions are very buggy so I use version 31 and 
occasionally get a weird issue but for the most part it works fine.

On 2/15/2016 8:39 AM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:
Hey guys. I need some help and am hoping someone can shed some light. 
I ahve had this problem for the last few months and can't tolerate it 
any more.  Thunderbird is losing focus all the time.  When i am typing 
a message, i'll be typing along and it'll just start saying as i hit 
keys things like no place marker, no frame, not a valid key press.  
This is completely unacceptable.  I  have changed a single setting.  I 
am running the latest thunderbird, and we 8.4 just cause my computer 
is old.  What would cause this and what is the fix?  There has to be a 
solution.

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Re: Windows 10 start menu

2016-01-19 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
I had the same problem and a purchased an app called start 10 which 
converted the win 10 menu to a modified win7 version and we 9 reads it 
perfectly.


I still cannot read the notification menu without using the mouse pointer.
On 1/19/2016 7:26 AM, Steve Sweeney via Talk wrote:

Hi,
When I press the Windows key on my Wincows 10 machine I get the Cortana box but 
no other items in a list.  How do I fix this so I have a start menue?
Thx -Steve


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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:01 PM
To: window-eyes 
Subject: Windows 10 start menu

Ok, I used to have a pretty good mental pic of the start menu on win xp and 
stuff, but I seem to be having trouble getting a mental pic of the start menus 
and stuff on windows 10. OK,, I learned how to navigate the damn ribbons, LOL, 
Now I gotta try and figure out how tonavigate the start menu and what the heck 
“selected and unselected” items in the menus... Crap. LOL Any help will be 
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Re: Window-eyes 9.3 and the newest Firefox

2016-01-13 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

I had the same problem and I returned to 43.1
On 1/13/2016 3:44 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:
I haven't had any problems until installing the newest Firefox, V43. 
Now Browse Mode no longer works even after a complete reinstallation 
of Firefox.

I get that dreaded "Browse Mode not Available."
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Re: Trying to find a Window-eyes setting

2015-12-22 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

Change from opening messages in tab to window under advanced options.
On 12/22/2015 8:54 AM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote:
I posed the below question shortly after 9.3 was released but got no 
response, so I am trying again.


Regardless of the email program I use, Window-eyes tends to repeat the 
first five seconds or so of a message after it has been opened. In 
other words, it reads it but then re-reads the first few seconds of 
the message.  What setting do I need to slow down the reading of the 
screen until it has stabilized?  I tried trigger delay, but that did 
not do the job.  So what is the name of the setting and where do I 
find it?


Incidentally, I'm running W E 9.3.1 on a Windows 10 desktop.

Don Roberts

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TB

2015-12-20 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
In we 9.3.1 as someone else mentioned we in mt tb 31 is repeating the 
first line or sentence in some emails but not others.


Obviously this just started with the update.  Is there a fix for this or 
is there a bug in the update?

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Re: Windows 10 Upgrade Process

2015-11-24 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
When I go to windows update and check for updates it says my system is 
up to date despite me running the 10240 build of win10.


Do I have to wait for the invite from ms or will the fall build be 
automatically installed?

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Re: Thunderbird & Spam Folders

2015-11-22 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Using tbird we have a junk folder but our spam is on the email server so 
we have to go on line to check it.

On 11/21/2015 11:28 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
A few months ago, a sighted friend set me up with Thunderbird. 
However, I don't seem to have access to my spam folder.  I seem to 
have two trash folders, one of which has my deleted messages.  The 
other folder seems to be empty.  BTW, I'm using pop.  How can I access 
my spam folder to ensure I'm not missing messages?  Feel free to 
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Re: OT Very Strange Thing Happened

2015-11-22 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

What operating system are you running?

We updated to win10 and last week we had the same experience with alarm 
bells going off.  It happened to us using firefox trying to open a web 
site.

On 11/21/2015 10:28 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

I am visiting my daughter and family in NY. Everyone is asleep at 1:00 AM. I 
woke up, got up and came into the dining room and turned on my computer which 
was plugged in there charging the battery.

This loud burglar alarm type noise started. It was very loud. Sounded like a 
car alarm in that it kept changing alarm sounds. Beeping, then steady  tone 
then other tones then back to beeping. It was so loud that I did not connect it 
with my computer.

I thought that my daughter had an alarm system with a motion detector that they 
neglected to tell me about.

Finally my son in law got up, staggered into the room half asleep and turned 
off my computer. He read something on the screen but I was so shocked that I 
don’t remember what it was.
I can’t imagine my computer making such a racket.

Has anyone else ever encountered such a thing? I’ve had computers since about 
1988 and never had this happen.

I have a Del lap top with Win 10, WE 9.2.


Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

On average, an American man will have sex two to three times a week, whereas a 
Japanese man will have sex only one or two times a year.  This is upsetting 
news to meI had no idea I was Japanese.
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Tbird again

2015-09-13 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Using tbird 31.4 and we9.2 when my sighted wife closes we to view our 
joint emails when I go back with we I can read the in box but cannot 
read any open messages.


if I close tbird and open it again with we running all is fine. This 
behavior happened on and off a while ago but did not start until last 
week well after installing win 10.


Did anything happen to we recently to cause this?
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Win 10 start & notifications

2015-09-11 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Spoke with AI staff but they could not solve my problem.  Using we9.2 32 
home premium and win 10 I cannot read the start menu or the notification 
list.


I installed start 10 to replace the win10 start menu with the win7 and 
this works just fine but still no luck with notifications except if I 
use the mouse.

On 9/5/2015 1:50 PM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
Someone asked about the hot key for bookmarks in google crome. Did 
anyone give an answer? I too am seeking this info.

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Tbird and deleting messages

2015-07-02 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Using tb31.4 when deleting a message from one of my folders we 9.1 stops 
talking and it takes about a minute for speech to return and the message 
to be deleted.


This behavior does not happen in the in box.

i
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Re: Thunderbird

2015-06-21 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

What issues are you having and what versions of we and tb are 
you running?

On 6/21/2015 12:35 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Hi:

I don't want to take up too much space on the list with questions which
may not specifically be WE related, so if there are any Thunderbird
users, can any of you email me off list?  I've been using Thunderbird
for about four days.
nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks.
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Re: Escape key

2015-04-17 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
I have never been successful in using the add ons page in either ff or 
tb.  I ask my sighted wife to do it for me.  Is there a tutorial or 
something to walk me through the process using we?


On 4/17/2015 6:22 AM, Marvin Commerford via Talk wrote:

This sounds great but for the life of me I can't figure out the add-ons
mangler to search for it.  Is it necessary to scroll through all the
extensions?


On 4/16/2015 6:43 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

You can download a tb extension called close tab on esc.
Works great.


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On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:55 PM
To: Alan Siman; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Escape key

Yes, Escape works in a new window but not in a new tab. Although I
thought this was made to work in the TB app. But I don't use that app so
I'm not sure.

Hth,
Tom


On 4/15/2015 7:14 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:

Somehow my escape key no longer closes an ioeb email in latest tbird.

Is this an issue with opening emails in a new window or tab?
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Re: Escape key

2015-04-16 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

Thanks it worked great.

On 4/16/2015 4:43 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

You can download a tb extension called close tab on esc.
Works great.


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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:55 PM
To: Alan Siman; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Escape key

Yes, Escape works in a new window but not in a new tab. Although I
thought this was made to work in the TB app. But I don't use that app so
I'm not sure.

Hth,
Tom


On 4/15/2015 7:14 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:

Somehow my escape key no longer closes an ioeb email in latest tbird.

Is this an issue with opening emails in a new window or tab?
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TB Enhanced app

2015-04-16 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

Is the tb enhanced app necessary with we9.1?

If so what does it enhance?
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Escape key

2015-04-15 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

Somehow my escape key no longer closes an ioeb email in latest tbird.

Is this an issue with opening emails in a new window or tab?
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You are using the wrong command.

2015-04-13 Thread Alan Siman via Talk


Use the F8 function key at the beginning and end of the item you are 
trying to copy and then follow the options in the dialog box that opens.


On 4/13/2015 9:22 PM, via Talk wrote:

Good  evening all,

It seems that whenever I try to select text using the shift end key, in window 
eyes, I hear a windows tone sound, and nothing gets selected.  For example, if 
I try to select the email address of this list, I’ll put my cursor on the first 
letter, then do a shift end key too select the text of the email address, then 
do a control C to copy it too the clipboard.  But then when I do a control V to 
paste it into  the to field, in an email message, it won’t get pasted.  If 
anyone here has any suggestions or advice as to what I might be doing wrong, 
Could you please provide  me with  step by step instructions on how I might fix 
this problem?

Thanks in advance,
Al Cutolo
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Re: browsing the web issues

2015-04-07 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
I am having the exact opposite experience.  WE9.1 with latest tbird and 
ff is faster and more accurate then earlier versions.  I have almost no 
crashes that cannot be fixed by simply tabing in and out of a program 
which was not the case in earlier versions.


My system is win7 32 bit home so its simplicity may be why it is more 
stable then yours.


On 4/7/2015 5:55 PM, Matt Cabraja via Talk wrote:

Sadly you're not the only one experiencing these issues I have stopped using 
Window-Eyes due to these issues
Hth
Matt7, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Jim Ruby via Talk  wrote:


I'm just curious why we is having so many problems when browsing the web
losing speech, not being able to navigate on many pages while trying with
other screen readers have very little or no trouble at all. I really hate to
say this as I've been a we user since the beginning on win 95 I'm finding
myself having to use other resources more and more often to do some of the
simple things on pages I always visited before to get my research done. I am
having this happen using ie on my desk top as well as my laptop both running
win 7 x 64 systems with all the latest windows updates. :(

Am I the only one running in to this type of behavior?

I'd like to send in the web pages for you to look at but often we is so
unresponsive it makes it hard to get this information to you.

At any rate here is hoping we can get back to its former magnificence and
stability.

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Tbird

2015-03-20 Thread Alan Siman via Talk

Okay we 9.1 and latest tbird has changed again and I do not know why.

Before we would repeat the email in the in box that I just moved into a 
folder before it read the current email highlighted in the in box.


Starting yesterday when I move some emails we now says mine closed and 
begins to read the new email for some and repeats the sent email for 
other emails.


Has anything changed in we or tbird to cause this behavior?  I have done 
nothing in either program to modify settings to cause this change.

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Check boxes

2015-03-16 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Using ff latest version with we9.1 and having issues with check boxes. 
The space bar will check the box but we reads it as checked some times 
and not others in the same survey.  Using the arrow key to go away from 
the box and then going back we reads the box correctly as either checked 
or not checked.


Is this a known bug that has not been fixed or something unique to ff?
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Follow up on last message on tbird

2015-03-08 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
I forgot to mention using win7 32 bit home and latest versions of tbird 
and ff.


On 3/8/2015 3:07 PM, Alan Siman via Talk wrote:


Yes we occasionally goes silent but I simply go to my desktop using
window key +D and then go back to tbird and in almost every case speech
is restored.

The only ussue that seems prevalent is we repeating messages that I have
placed in a folder using the alt+M command then hitting I then enter.
The wierd part is this does not happen every time.  I suspect it might
be related to the email message format that I cannot determine.Other
then the above we9,1 us cert fast and accurate and not to mention
firefox which is particularly impressive.


On 3/8/2015 2:52 PM, Steve Clower via Talk wrote:

I must respectfuly disagree. I use Thunderbird as my primary email
client and am able to use it without any significant problems. With
that said, I am using the current version of Thunderbird under Windows
8.1. Which TB are you using, and under which operating system?

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On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:38 PM, tt8 via Talk 
wrote:

Since we 9.1 can no longer read mail with thunderbird
we goes silent, then thunderbird is not responding,
so I am using nvda to read mail
so thunderbird doesnot seem to be the problem.
Tony


On 3/6/2015 21:58, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
Hey folks
Well, I've had Window-eyes 9.1 on my machine for about a day now so
I figured I'd report my findings, to see if anyone else has had
similar experiences.  For the most part, things are extremely
stable, much more so than 9.0 was.  For whatever reason right in the
middle of surfing a web page or reading an email in Thunderbird, 9.0
would just go completely silent.  no error message was displayed on
the screen, it just closed, as if the program was never opened to
begin with.  Pressing the usual hot key alt control w always brought
it back so that was a good thing, but i'm very happy that problem is
gone.  I noticed it once or twice when I first installed 9.1 but
after rebooting the machine that little problem appears to have
solved itself.

Also, in internet explorer 11, window-eyes still takes a few seconds
to load a web page. it's as ifWindow-eyes hangs for about 15 to 30
seconds, but then if I'm patient enough, it usually comes back. I
did have a few issues where the 9.0 version would never recover from
this issue and the machine would completely lock up, forcing a
reboot to get things on track.  Now, it does take a few seconds
longer to start speaking a web page, but it's a whole hell of a lot
more reliable, so lots of improovements there!  it's also nice to be
able to just copy plane text to the clipboard.  i would really like
to have the traditional copy and paste method back, but like i said
before that probably isn't possible with the way Window-eyes
rhendors a web page now.  If it is possible to allow us to use the
traditional method of copying and pasting with the arrow keys
instead of the f8 selection method, let me encourage the AI Squared
guys to offer that as an option in the WE control panel,

m

  aybe something in the browse mode section somewhere?

As far as Thunderbird goes,I'm having pretty good results, but
occasionally, i'm not able to read an email as I type it. I like to
read back what I wrote to hear what it sounds like, just to confirm
what I've said to avoid any spelling errors and such.  In 9.0 and
9.1 when composing a new message or replying to one, Window-eyes
will say about blank when using the arrow keys after I've written
something, so I know text is there, but for whatever interesting
reason, Window-eyes isn't able to read it.  The interesting part is
there are times i can read it back and other times I can't and there
doesn't seem to be any real rhyme or reason to it, which is really
frustrating as I'd like to give you guys some information so you can
find a fix.  Sometimes if I close thunderbird and re-open it the
problem will fix itself, but i never know how many times I have to
close and re-open it.  I am using the TB Enhance app, so I'm not
sure if that has anything to do with it.

Firefox does seem to be a bit faster when loading web pages, but
still seems like it's a tad slower than internet explorer is.  I
tried google Chrome yesterday, and was impressed with how accessible
it is now!  I haven't quite found enough things I like it to make it
my default web browser, but it sure is nice to know I can have 3 web
browsers to choose from now.  So, overall i'm pretty happy with 9.1.
Thanks guys!


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I also must disagree with your inability to use we with tbird.

2015-03-08 Thread Alan Siman via Talk


Yes we occasionally goes silent but I simply go to my desktop using 
window key +D and then go back to tbird and in almost every case speech 
is restored.


The only ussue that seems prevalent is we repeating messages that I have 
placed in a folder using the alt+M command then hitting I then enter. 
The wierd part is this does not happen every time.  I suspect it might 
be related to the email message format that I cannot determine.Other 
then the above we9,1 us cert fast and accurate and not to mention 
firefox which is particularly impressive.



On 3/8/2015 2:52 PM, Steve Clower via Talk wrote:

I must respectfuly disagree. I use Thunderbird as my primary email client and 
am able to use it without any significant problems. With that said, I am using 
the current version of Thunderbird under Windows 8.1. Which TB are you using, 
and under which operating system?

Steve


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On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:38 PM, tt8 via Talk  wrote:

Since we 9.1 can no longer read mail with thunderbird
we goes silent, then thunderbird is not responding,
so I am using nvda to read mail
so thunderbird doesnot seem to be the problem.
Tony


On 3/6/2015 21:58, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
Hey folks
Well, I've had Window-eyes 9.1 on my machine for about a day now so I figured 
I'd report my findings, to see if anyone else has had similar experiences.  For 
the most part, things are extremely stable, much more so than 9.0 was.  For 
whatever reason right in the middle of surfing a web page or reading an email 
in Thunderbird, 9.0 would just go completely silent.  no error message was 
displayed on the screen, it just closed, as if the program was never opened to 
begin with.  Pressing the usual hot key alt control w always brought it back so 
that was a good thing, but i'm very happy that problem is gone.  I noticed it 
once or twice when I first installed 9.1 but after rebooting the machine that 
little problem appears to have solved itself.

Also, in internet explorer 11, window-eyes still takes a few seconds to load a web page. it's as ifWindow-eyes hangs for about 15 to 30 seconds, but then if I'm patient enough, it usually comes back. I did have a few issues where the 9.0 version would never recover from this issue and the machine would completely lock up, forcing a reboot to get things on track.  Now, it does take a few seconds longer to start speaking a web page, but it's a whole hell of a lot more reliable, so lots of improovements there!  it's also nice to be able to just copy plane text to the clipboard.  i would really like to have the traditional copy and paste method back, but like i said before that probably isn't possible with the way Window-eyes rhendors a web page now.  If it is possible to allow us to use the traditional method of copying and pasting with the arrow keys instead of the f8 selection method, let me encourage the AI Squared guys to offer that as an option in the WE control panel, 

m

  aybe something in the browse mode section somewhere?

As far as Thunderbird goes,I'm having pretty good results, but occasionally, 
i'm not able to read an email as I type it. I like to read back what I wrote to 
hear what it sounds like, just to confirm what I've said to avoid any spelling 
errors and such.  In 9.0 and 9.1 when composing a new message or replying to 
one, Window-eyes will say about blank when using the arrow keys after I've 
written something, so I know text is there, but for whatever interesting 
reason, Window-eyes isn't able to read it.  The interesting part is there are 
times i can read it back and other times I can't and there doesn't seem to be 
any real rhyme or reason to it, which is really frustrating as I'd like to give 
you guys some information so you can find a fix.  Sometimes if I close 
thunderbird and re-open it the problem will fix itself, but i never know how 
many times I have to close and re-open it.  I am using the TB Enhance app, so 
I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Firefox does seem to be a bit faster when loading web pages, but still seems 
like it's a tad slower than internet explorer is.  I tried google Chrome 
yesterday, and was impressed with how accessible it is now!  I haven't quite 
found enough things I like it to make it my default web browser, but it sure is 
nice to know I can have 3 web browsers to choose from now.  So, overall i'm 
pretty happy with 9.1.
Thanks guys!


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Follow up on my tbird issue

2015-03-02 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
I just realized that we 9 and tbird 31.5 reads the message I just placed 
in a folder from the in box again as I return to the in box but then 
proceeds to read the new highlighted message.


This is still a bug as far as I am concerned but I can live with since 
it happens quite quickly.  But I would love to have it go away in the 
next we update.

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WE strangeness

2015-03-02 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Using we 9 when I move an item in tbird from the in box to a folder we 
always repeats the message even though it is no longer there but on the 
next highlighted message.


I have to use the up or down arrow to move away from the highlighted 
message and we reads it correctly.


Is this a known bug in we 9 and tbird latest version or is there a 
setting I am missing?

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Re: Thunderbird crash again

2015-02-16 Thread Alan Siman via Talk
Using the same we and tbird on a 32 home 6g ram system and I am 
experiencing a much faster and easier experience except for 1 thing.  In 
deleting emails saved in my folders we9 can be very slow taking up to 15 
seconds without any speech.  Then speech comes back and I can delete 
another email.


I must point out that in the in box deletions are quick and speech is 
not lost.


On 2/16/2015 8:16 PM, Kenneth Son via Talk wrote:

Hello list.
Does anyone know why Thunderbird crashes with Window eyes version 9?
I am running 4 gigs of memory on an hp laptop so has anyone had better
luck with Window Eyes and Thunderbird on a system with more ram?
This crash seems to happen when deleting messages.

I am running the up to date version of Thunderbird.
Kenneth Son.

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