Re: Question About KNFB and camera.

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Hello, as I reported on another list, no I don't think so. It needs a camera to 
read files.
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> On Nov 28, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks David. Very interesting.
> 
> My one question is, if all I want to do with the KNFB program is decipher 
> scanned PDF files that are already in my WLM email, will the KNFB reader read 
> those internally with no camera or any other device needed?
> 
> I have Win 10 and WLM 12 on a del PC.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: David via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:16 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: David
> Subject: Re: Question About KNFB and camera.
> 
> PDF documents, or any other file formats on your computer, are
> electronically stored information.
> 
> 
> Cameras cannot read electronic documents. They are such constructed,
> they need to "see" things in real, before they can do anything.
> 
> 
> All electronic formats, be it music, video, documents or just any
> blah-blah-blah, will have to be processed internally in the computer.
> 
> 
> To best illustrate things, may I suggest you think of the camera as the
> "eye" of the computer. Let's at the same time, tell the scanner to be
> the other "eye" of the PC. The CPU, (or processor), the RAM and any
> other electronic inside your computer's physical box - well, let's name
> it the brain. Even so, the hard disk or SSD, which we will compare to
> your "deep memory".
> 
> 
> As you well know, your physical eyes cannot "look" inside the brain, and
> perform anything from within your body. Rather, the eyes can feed the
> brain with information, which your brain now can process.
> 
> 
> Back to your query. You will need a camera to feed any written or
> physically visible information into the computer. Whatever has already
> been fed into the computer, like an electronically stored document, will
> be non-interesting for the camera, scanner or any further feeding
> equipment. All processing of what you have in your brain, will be done
> by the brain directly. All information already stored on your computer,
> will be processed directly by the computer, and loaded software.
> 
> 
> I know, you wanted a quick answer to your question. I just thought it
> might be helpful for you and others, to have a clarified comprehension
> of why the answer is the way it stands.
> 
> 
> To jhust elaborate a tiny bit here, let me in very short terms tell you
> how any OCR software works.
> 
> First of all, it needs to retrieve some information. It will typically
> leave you the chance of defining whether it should grab some electronic
> document, or if it should contact an external piece of equipment - like
> a camera or a scanner. To the software, it basically does not matter
> whichever way you feed it with information.
> 
> 
> Next, it will start to process the information it has loaded into its
> memory. All such electronic information is made up of 0's and 1's, also
> known as pixels. And the software will compare the layout of these, with
> an internal dictionary. The dictionary will be like a tremendous
> collection of stencils. If the OCR finds that a set of dots (or pixels)
> in the received information matches any stencil in the dictionary, it
> will know what character this will represent. It now will "type" this
> character into a virtual document, thereby imitating you pressing a key
> on the keyboard.
> 
> 
> Finally, when it has finished the whole loaded information, it will
> present you with the virtually typed document.
> 
> 
> For your information, in old times, the stencil-lookup was pretty much a
> one-to-one comparison. That means, it would need a match that would be
> very close to the exact stenciled shape. If it was to recognize anything
> to be the letter O, it would need a set of pixels in a perfect circle.
> 
> 
> Modern OCR software has become far mor "inteligent", whatever we want to
> talk about inteligence when comes to silly electronic units like a
> computer. The inteligence is that the OCR no longer will depend on close
> to exact matches. To a very high degree, it might "look" at the
> properties of a scanned character, and base its recognition on the
> results thereof. For instance, it would conclude that a set of pixels
> that resemble two parallel vertical lines, slightly spaced from each
> other, with a horizontal line running just about mid-way up between the
> verticals - all in all will be interpreted as the capitalized letter H.
> 
> Likewise, a vertical bar, with a tiny line pointing diagonally out from
> the upper left end, will likely be told to be the number 1.
> 
> 
> As you might understand, such propetary comparison will be more
> forgiving, than if you were to compare exact matches. You no longe

Re: Question About KNFB and camera.

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Hi Steve, I would bet, that it checks for a camera before you perform an action.
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> On Nov 28, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> Maybe you already know this, but the strength of the KNFB reader is to take a 
> picture of a document and turn it into text.  It was originally designed to 
> be used on smart phones offering an extremely portable reading solution.  It 
> is now available in Windows, but the idea was to be able to use the cameras 
> that are built into many laptops and tablets to allow reading of text.  
> Although I have not used it this way, it can apparently perform Optical 
> Character Recognition on PDF documents and other internal files which does 
> not involve using a camera.  However, I do not know if the KNFB Reader checks 
> for a camera or not.  It seems to me that back near the beginning of this 
> thread, you asked about whether it can read PDF's.  Before you buy it to read 
> PDF's that don't contain text, check out the option in JAWS to do that now.  
> If you are on JAWS 18 or JAWS 2018, it is possible that you already have 
> something that will do what you need.  
> 
> Also, I don't have experience using it with an external camera as some of 
> mentioned here, but the experience has been that there is a resolution limit 
> that will really help OCR.  I have heard a number somewhat lower than Josh 
> gave of 8MB, but his number is probably fine.  The point is that it is not 
> the case that the higher the resolution the better the results.  A point is 
> reached where there is more information provided than is useful.  
> 
> I hope this answers the question you were really trying to get at.  Sometimes 
> we go all around the answer and never hit it directly.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:23 AM
> To: Talk 
> Cc: Robert Ringwald 
> Subject: Question About KNFB and camera.
> 
> I do not have a smart phone. In order to use the KNFB program to just read 
> PDF's on the computer, do I need a camera? Or can it be done internally 
> within the computer?
> 
> Windows 10.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: just a test because of bounced emails

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hi Mike, your list mail is coming through loud and clear. However, I don’t know 
if you’ll see this or not. This is not the only server and that is acting this 
way. There are other servers that are bouncing providers as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2018, at 3:45 AM, M F Mason via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I apologise for this note but it is by way of a test as it has been brought 
> to my attention that emails have been bounced back by my internet service 
> provider.
> 
> Thank you for your patience.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Mike.
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Re: testing

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Test came through successful.
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Loy Green via Talk  
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Re: Jaws List?

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Hi Robert, here it is copied from the homepage. The directive dress to join the 
group. And I will also place the link to the homepage in the messages well.

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

https://groups.io/g/jaws-users-list
> On Feb 2, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lloyd,
> 
> I  cannot get subscribed to the jaws list below. Are you sure that it is 
> correct?
> 
> -Bob
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Loy Green via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:47 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Loy Green
> Subject: Re: Jaws List?
> 
> I have been a long time user of WE as well and still use it a  lot, but also 
> am using JAWS. It took me a while to learn. Here is subscription address for 
> one of the JAWS users groups.
> jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io
> - Original Message -  From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
> To: Talk
> Cc: Robert Ringwald
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 3:38 PM
> Subject: Jaws List?
> 
> 
> I finally succumbed. Since WE is no longer supported, I figured that I had
> better get Jaws while the gettin' is good.
> 
> Since I had the latest version of WE with 2 SMAs, I got Jaws for free.
> 
> What is the email list for Jaws?
> 
> -Bob Ringwald
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Re: a message for Rod Hutton

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hi Don, I actually happen to have the e-mail address that you're looking for. 
it will be below for you
> 
> Rod Hutton 
.

> On Jan 16, 2017, at 6:15 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I apologize for sending a private message to the list; however, addresses on 
> this list are hidden, so I didn't have Rod's address to which I could send a 
> private message.
> 
> 
> Rod, as you are into scripting, I wonder whether you have ever considered 
> scripting a wonderful and very comprehensive file renamer called "Bulk rename 
> utility" available from
> 
> http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk .
> 
> 
> It talks reasonably well with Window-eyes, but it is rather confusing if one 
> wishes to use its more exotic renaming functions.
> 
> 
> If at all interested, please give it a look and tell me what you think.
> 
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> 
> Don Roberts
> 
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Re: a question about using touch screens

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Karen, the word you're looking for standard typing.
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> On Apr 6, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Karen Poulakos via Talk 
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> Larry,
> 
> On the iPhone and iPad, as you slide your finger over the on screen
> keyboard, Voiceover will say the letters.  There are two typing modes.  With
> the first one, I can't remember what they call it, you tap twice to select
> the letter.
> 
> With the second, which is the one I use, I think it's called touch typing,
> the letter is selected when you lift your finger.  No need to double tap the
> letter.Voice over says the letter when you locate it, and says it again when
> you lift your finger.
> 
> I've found that as I have become familiar with where the letters are on the
> screen,  I don't have to spend as much time hunting for them.   
> 
> Karen P
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 1:13 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: a question about using touch screens
> 
> OK folks, I've been wanting to ask this for a long time. Not having ever 
> attempted to use a tablet, iPhone or any other touch screen device, I 
> realize just how stupid this question might sound, but bear with me, OK?
> 
> I just want to know how a blind user like myself avoids becoming a hunt 
> and pecker when trying to  type on a touch screen. There obviously can't 
> be anything like home keys, or a easily recognizable  home base for the 
> fingers, so short of having to buy and use a bluetooth keyboard, how do 
> you  guys who make use of these screens do it?
> 
> Please be nice .
> 
> Larry
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Re: List owner

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

I think you would assume correct. As this link, we'll show you the addresses 
that are running the mailing list now keep in mind, it is all the way down at 
the very bottom.

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> On May 6, 2017, at 12:14 PM, brice Mijares via Talk 
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> I've been on this list for nearly 20 years. I don't even know who is the list 
> owner, I just assumed it was run by thee GW staff.
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Re: Learning Jaws

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

FS stands for freedom scientific, and they were bought out by this new group 
called VF oh group
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> On May 16, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk 
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> What does, FS, stand for? And what, exactly, is the name of the company that 
> sells JAWS?
> 
> Paulette
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:58 PM
> To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Learning Jaws
> 
> Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's 
> no media sent that we have to download JAWS.  But yes, with the packaged 
> version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials.  You can download 
> the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM
> To: Ted Larson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> ; t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: RE: Learning Jaws
> 
> Hi Ted:
> 
> There’s good news on this one.
> 
> JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format.  They can be 
> downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The 
> training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 
> hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to 
> all of it).
> 
> You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player.
> 
> You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, 
> rewind or fast-forward.  Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started 
> guide:
> 
> Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials 
> With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip 
> backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to 
> be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What 
> this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and 
> open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet 
> Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and 
> still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press 
> ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice 
> files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes 
> to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the 
> DAISY book): 
> 
> Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P 
> Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD 
> Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA 
> NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to 
> access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not 
> open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, 
> this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print 
> a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu 
> commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file 
> menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box.
> 
> Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player.  They 
> work well on the NLS player.  Once downloaded, the training materials are 
> located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training.  There’s 
> only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS 
> player, but, everything else is there.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Ted Larson via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: Learning Jaws
> 
> When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth
> between my application and an online manual.  Can I get the manual on cd and
> play it on a cd player?   Or, can I download the manual to a
> talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book
> machine?  If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download
> it?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
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Re: a question about window-eyes for office

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Not with the latest version. You will need Office 2016 in order to get it to 
work.
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> On May 16, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Norene Trappa via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hi,  Will office 2013 work with Jaws?
> 
> Norene
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 5:08 PM
> To: Mike Bernard ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: a question about window-eyes for office
> 
> Hi:
> 
> The free Office version is perfectly safe.  Sometime, I think mid-year, it 
> will also be phased out, but, it may continue to work even after the download 
> is taken down.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Mike Bernard via Talk
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 4:16 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: a question about window-eyes for office
> 
> Hi again everyone.
> 
> For any of you who have ever tried it, is the free Window-eyes for office
> version 9.5.40 safe to use? I know they won't be upgrading it anymore being
> that window-eyes has been discontinued, but at least its free and for those
> of us who wish to can still at least have a working copy of Window-eyes that
> actually works, for the time being, until we're forced to use something
> else.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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Re: Evernote?

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Evernote is a word application for the iPhone I've never heard of it being an 
application for the computer.
> On Aug 16, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> So, I'm reading a book written by a blind gentlemen.  One of the things he 
> references in his book is about him using Evernote.  For this reason, 
> obviously, he's blind, so this tells me that Evernote is obviously 
> accessible, if he's using it.  My question is, I keep hearing about Evernote, 
> but what exactly is! Evernote?  What type things is it used for?  Finally, 
> has anyone got some tips maybe that they could provide me for getting started 
> with it, seeing that I've never used it before?
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
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Re: Evernote?

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Oh wow, so it's not only an IOS app it's also a desktop application good to 
know.
> On Aug 16, 2015, at 9:58 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> It is a Windows desktop application, and the last time I looked at it, since
> another WE user wanted to use it, it proved to be somewhat accessible, but
> not very.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk
> Sent: August 16, 2015 10:06 PM
> To: Norene Trappa ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: Evernote?
> 
> Excuse me.  I'll do that next time, instead of asking here.  I'm sorry for 
> not  using... "Google."
> 
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Norene Trappa via Talk" 
> To: "joseph hudson" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Evernote?
> 
> 
>> Hi,  According to what is online, it is a notetaker and storage place in 
>> the cloud.  Look on line.
>> 
>> Norene
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: joseph hudson via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:25 PM
>> To: Christopher-Mark Gilland ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Evernote?
>> 
>> Evernote is a word application for the iPhone I've never heard of it being
> 
>> an application for the computer.
>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, I'm reading a book written by a blind gentlemen.  One of the things 
>>> he references in his book is about him using Evernote.  For this reason, 
>>> obviously, he's blind, so this tells me that Evernote is obviously 
>>> accessible, if he's using it.  My question is, I keep hearing about 
>>> Evernote, but what exactly is! Evernote?  What type things is it used 
>>> for? Finally, has anyone got some tips maybe that they could provide me 
>>> for getting started with it, seeing that I've never used it before?
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>> 
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Re: Office 2013 on Win 7

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Yes, Outlook 2013 will work on Windows 7 Home edition or pro.
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Karyn Campbell via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> 
> Could someone please tell me if Office 2013 will work on a Windows 7 64-bit
> machine.  I had a bad experience with Windows 7 32-bit and don't want to
> repeat that experience.  
> 
> I'm wanting this information because I seem to have lots of crash issues
> with Outlook 2007 and I'm getting tired of  it very quickly.  I had two
> crashes tonight and both were connected to Outlook 2007.
> 
> Thanks for any help on this one.  An answer would be appreciated before I go
> crazy.  LOL
> 
> Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com
> Using WE 9.2  on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 64-bit
> with Office 2013 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home
> premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft Windows Defender
> onAcer netbook as well as Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion.
> 
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Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Hello Rick, as I've joined this list to help others in just read tit bits and 
pieces of information as I help people out with technology on a daily basis. We 
were having the same issue a couple weeks ago on the another list that I help 
them run. It is part of the providers issues. So it's not anything that Square 
can do so daunting that they can do, is talk to the provider that's hosting 
their website. And it's up to them to take these email addresses off the block 
list I hope this better answers your questions, and everybody else’s.
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> On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary
> from some work I have done.
> Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if you get reinstated.
> You might try contacting AI Squared and asking why this keeps happening over
> and over and don't let them tell you it is your fault or someone elses
> fault.
> As faras I have determined it is their fault until I hear diferently from
> someone on list or from AI Squared.
> Its simple, they fix the problem or not - that's their choice, using
> WindowEyes, that's our choice.
> There are more solid screen readers out there, all be it much more expensive
> than a relatively free WindowEyes,  and if WindowEyes cant even manage a
> e-mail list that is pretty bad indeed from a technical Competency Viewpoint.
> Rick USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Vince Morvillo via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:50 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
> 
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Re: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions

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Chris, this is good news. I thought you might be Arnie on the ball for this.
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> On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rick and list,
> We are working with our hosting provider  to try and rectify the situation.
> Chris
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 2:43 PM
> To: 'Nick Sarames' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> 
> Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the 
> detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
> 
> What are you saying?
> That they are so behind the curve, so sloppy and so inept that they don't 
> have time to fix one of the most important parts of a company, the public 
> face of the company ie the e-list and their website?
> Is that your stand?
> Rick USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Sarames [mailto:nicksara...@msn.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:18 PM
> To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the 
> detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
> 
> Do you really think, with everything going on, that this should be their most 
> important priority?  So it takes a couple of minutes to subscribe again, is 
> that really a big deal?  That said, I am one of the lucky ones.
> 
> On 8/28/2015 12:10 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
>> Hi: I have not seen any postings from AI Squared about the likely 
>> source
> of
>> their bouncing problem.Perhaps they have not come through to me or 
>> perhaps they are just not interested.
>> If you have heard anything on list let me know. I put some real work 
>> into finding answers for them so would appreciate at least a shout out 
>> about
> what
>> they have found out.
>> I do think there is a answer to this problem and it lies with AI 
>> Squared
> and
>> would like to hear if they are working on it or if they just don't 
>> care or if all the pros I have talked are full of carp.
>> Rick USA
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Re: bounced from the list

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Kevin, it is on the list providers in. Chris, has already confirmed that 
they're working on this with their provider.
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> On Aug 28, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hi:
> I just got another message saying that my membership in the list has
> been disabled and that I needed to confirm my membership.
> Since I am using a Gmail account for this list, it has nothing to do
> with any particular service provider.  Whatever it is, could we please
> get it fixed?  I know that it only takes a minute or so to confirm my
> subscription, but I, and a few others on this list would be a lot
> happier if we didn't have to do that.
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Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Steve, you're correct but I will tell you I went through this same problem with 
my Outlook address, Microsoft could not do anything. I try to tell them what 
was going on and they want to meet do some strange thing. They could not help 
me whatsoever. So therefore again, it happens to be on the providers into 
things which Chris, has already said is working on getting fixed.
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> On Aug 28, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Steve Jacobson via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone.  
> It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader 
> approach to limiting spam.  If that were not the case, this would be 
> happening to more of us.  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com 
> <mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com>] On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:44 PM
> To: Rick Thomas mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>>; Window-Eyes 
> Discussion List  <mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>>
> Subject: Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
> 
> Hello Rick, as I've joined this list to help others in just read tit bits and 
> pieces of information as I help people out with technology on a daily basis. 
> We were having the same issue a couple weeks ago on the another list that I 
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> hosting their website. And it's up to them to take these email addresses off 
> the block list I hope this better answers your questions, and everybody 
> else’s.
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>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary
>> from some work I have done.
>> Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if you get reinstated.
>> You might try contacting AI Squared and asking why this keeps happening over
>> and over and don't let them tell you it is your fault or someone elses
>> fault.
>> As faras I have determined it is their fault until I hear diferently from
>> someone on list or from AI Squared.
>> Its simple, they fix the problem or not - that's their choice, using
>> WindowEyes, that's our choice.
>> There are more solid screen readers out there, all be it much more expensive
>> than a relatively free WindowEyes,  and if WindowEyes cant even manage a
>> e-mail list that is pretty bad indeed from a technical Competency Viewpoint.
>> Rick USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Vince Morvillo via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:50 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Subject: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
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Re: Twitter and Window Eyes

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hello Paulette, I will say that the cube is dead, and socialize, is well alive 
so I will go with socialize if I were you. Because I've heard that there's a 
lot of problems with the cube. And better yet, I will even use your iPhone for 
this as I find Facebook and twitter to be very accessible on the iPhone and 
iPad. Good luck, and if you have any questions don't hesitate to contact me.
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On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote:

Hi all,



I am considering trying Twitter. I have never used Twitter, Facebook or
Linked in. So, I don't know much about social media. But from what I hear
Twitter is easier to use than Facebook.

Someone suggested that I use something called, The Cube, because it was made
to be used by the blind. I have heard of Social Eyes, produced by GW Micro,
and now I suppose by iSquared. So, what I want to know is how easy is
Twitter to use with Window Eyes and should I use Social Eyes, this thing
called the cube, or something else to best access and use Twitter. Thanks in
advance for your help.



Paulette

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Re: Twitter and Window Eyes

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hello Reba, I needed that that's a good update. I'm on these list alarms second 
help others. And yes, you are correct TW blue is another good client. So 
scratch the socialized client. And if I remember correctly I believe Paulette 
is running a .1 so she might have access to the window store to grab the 
Facebook application that you recommended.
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On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Reeva Webb 
mailto:jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I do most of my fb and Twitter stuff on mobile devices but I would suggest 
either chicken nugget or tw blue for Twitter. I wouldn't suggest social eyes as 
it is running on life support and the plug could be pulled at anytime. If you 
are on Windows 8 on up I have used the fb app from the windows store with 
success.

Reeva

On Thursday, September 24, 2015, Joseph Hudson via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote:
Hello Paulette, I will say that the cube is dead, and socialize, is well alive 
so I will go with socialize if I were you. Because I've heard that there's a 
lot of problems with the cube. And better yet, I will even use your iPhone for 
this as I find Facebook and twitter to be very accessible on the iPhone and 
iPad. Good luck, and if you have any questions don't hesitate to contact me.
Joseph Hudson
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jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>>
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On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>talk@lists.window-eyes.com<mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>>>
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Hi all,



I am considering trying Twitter. I have never used Twitter, Facebook or
Linked in. So, I don't know much about social media. But from what I hear
Twitter is easier to use than Facebook.

Someone suggested that I use something called, The Cube, because it was made
to be used by the blind. I have heard of Social Eyes, produced by GW Micro,
and now I suppose by iSquared. So, what I want to know is how easy is
Twitter to use with Window Eyes and should I use Social Eyes, this thing
called the cube, or something else to best access and use Twitter. Thanks in
advance for your help.



Paulette

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Re: social-eyes

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Yes, the women aren't being held today I saw this animal from Robert Acosta. 
When it is archived, I will forward an email from Robert to this list if it 
would be appreciated.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:04 AM, matthew dyer via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Soshal eyes is gone.  AISquare is holding a webinar on using fb with we.  I
> think it is today, but don't remembrer off the top of my head.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+ilovecountrymusic483=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Brian Moore via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:24 AM
> To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: social-eyes
> 
> HI.  is this thing still available.  because I am not in the u.s, catalog
> will not show for me anymore.
> 
> Since there is no physical product, not sure why I could order this before
> but not now.
> Brian.
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Re: Gandi has taken over and I don'tlike it

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hello, your signature still here.
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On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:26 PM, Bud Schwab via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote:

Hey, what's goin on  here? Something or somebody has taken over the computer 
and I didn't want it or ask for it.   I can't find my way around anymore and 
it's a real mess.  Has anybody  elso run into this?I have to keep correcting 
the typing.  Something called Gandi.  No Signature anymore either.

Bud dSchwab


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Re: Totally OT: searching for an apple mailing list

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hello, I know you said to email you off list, but for anybody who is interested 
the link to a very good apple mailing list that is very low traffic, that you 
would possibly deal to get your question answered on, we'll be below. And I 
look forward to seeing you over there and anybody else who chooses to join.
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com
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On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Morne van der Merwe via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote:

Hello listers,

I do aapologise for this off topic list.  If anyone belongs to a list for
apple users, especially iPhone, please send me an off list email.  My addres
is



mo...@mb-net.co.za 



Thanks in advance.

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Re: Yahoo mail password

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Hello Jim, have you tried having send you a code tell like a mobile phone? I 
had to do this before. And I found it worked better than solving a captcha.
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On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Jim via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote:

Hi there GROUP!
Was trying to retrieve my Yahoo PassWord which I had forgotten, and was using 
their audio system.  I found it to be just a bit annoying, there appears to be 
a great deal of backbround noise which makes hearing the numbers a bit 
difficult.  Wonder if anyone here has found away around this? Thanks very much! 
de
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Re: question

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hello, I run a group called blind apples the link to join will be below. 
Anybody is welcome.
http://cruising.ultragroups.com/mailman/listinfo/blindapples_cruising.ultragroups.com
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On Jan 27, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Afik Sofir via Talk  
wrote:



I know that is not relate to window-eyes,

But I want to ask you, if there any mailing list or something for iphone
blind users?

Thanks

Afik.





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Re: Need an answering machine software solution

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hello, something else that works to. Is Time Warner has something called answer 
anywhere. It is basically a list of phone numbers that you can Aaron on their 
website. And then whenever it is turned on, all those phones will start 
ringing. Dean on the first phone that you configure to do this it will be in 
charge of receiving the voice mails. You can easily go back to that phone, And 
check the answering machine that way. Or you can look it it's caller ID 
evidence and accessible cell phone like mine is. I Love this feature for 
whenever I happen to be out and I'm expecting a phone call.
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On Apr 17, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote:

Hey Rod,

I don't know if this will fit your needs, but here's my setup.

For caller ID I have two methods. My cordless phones (Panasonic I think) have 
audible caller ID. And be it that the phone companies are trying to drive 
everyone off of land lines I switched my land line to my internet service 
provider a couple years ago for a fraction of the price.

I can go to their site and look at my call history. And they also convert my 
messages to text and send them to me via email. Of course I still get the audio 
message on my phone. So it might be worth looking into.

Regards,
Tom


On 4/16/2016 11:41 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi,

I have a good quality USB modem which has worked well up to now for a 
software-based talking call display solution on a land line with the help of 
the Ascendis Caller ID software (http://ascendis.com).
What I would like to do now is to use either a Windows 7 or Windows 10 machine 
to set up a software-based ansering machine.
Ideally, I would like the software to answer the land line, play a greeting, 
store the caller's message, and notify me via SMS text message and/or email and 
even attach the voice file to these messages.
I have tried an application called Phoner (http://www.phoner.de), and I can't 
quite get the answering machine to work.
I would love to hear anyone's experiences and suggestions on this topic, 
knowing full well that this is not an easy problem to solve, especially given 
that such a solution would need to be accessible via Window-Eyes for me to be 
able to use it effectively.

Thanks so much,

Rod Hutton
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Re: facebook timeline

[Joseph Hudson via Talk]

Hi Karen, have you tried using the mobile Facebook site? That would be 
m.Facebook.com
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On Sep 5, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Karen Karsh via Talk 
mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com>> wrote:

Hi,
I am new to the list.
I can't access messages on my timeline past a couple of days ago and would like 
too.
I received many Birthday wishes for August 31 and they just aren't accessible.
Does anyone have a work around for this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Karen
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Re: OT, Amazon Fire

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Hi, I think the perfect Group for the question that you're trying to ask would 
be a technolo the group is called the tech zone.gy group. Below I will provide 
my subscription info. Just send me a blank email to the following address and 
I'll do the rest.
Subscribe: the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io 


> On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> I know thesis off topic, but I don't who else to ask about this. We have a
> little box called Amazon Fire TV. If you have Amazon Prime, which we have,
> you plug it into your tv and then you can watch shows, movies, etc., through
> this device. You can use your voice to say things like the name of a movie,
> show, or actor; then it will bring up what it has available. But once the
> information is pulled up, there is no way for me to know what is there. Does
> anyone know any way that I can use the Amazon Fire TV myself to find and
> watch something that I want to watch? Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Paulette
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Re: email

[joseph hudson via Talk]

Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.


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> On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, tony c via Talk  
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> Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 10, 
> it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony
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