RE: Num Lock
Apparently, Dell has been shipping keyboards for quite a while without the Num Lock key. The folling is a link to a posting about this issues dating back to 2012 and lasting for two years. However, there was never a satisfactory answer for toggling the function. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19476756?pi2195 3=1 Some suggestions given were to hold the Clear key down for two seconds and Num Lock would silently toggle. Further postings claimed this did not work for them. Another offered the key combination of Ctrl-Backspace, which others again found not to work. Registry and BIOS changes are also offered in the list, but these do not help for toggling the functionality, only for fixing it in one ore the other state. One suggestion was to open the onscreen keyboard and toggle the function using this. While this may be kludgy, it offers an alternative that could work in the short term. I did not realize the omission of this key. When I set up my wife's new Dell last December, I never used the included keyboard but just hooked it up to my existing keyboard and mouse. I did not like the feel of the new keyboard (too mushy). Maybe I'll call Dell and see what they have to say since the computer is still under warranty. Since the computer was purchased under their small business division, maybe the support results may be different than their home support. Rick Blair -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+softwarethatworks=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:29 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Num Lock Hi: OK, so we can either set the applications key function using auto hot key or use shift and f10 and that is ok. Now, why not have a WE setting in the control panel to lock the num lock setting and perhaps a hot key combo to toggle it? Using the f10 key would then become the default WE Applications key and the num lock could be toggled easily or set in the WE Control Panel. Just a thought on what seems an easy fix to a potential major headache for WE Users who get confused with the newer keyboards not having these keys. WE should work with modern technologies out of the box and this would eliminate these 2 problems me thinks. Searching for non-standard modern or outdated keyboards is not a good thing to force your clients into having to do to use your product when it is not necessary at all with minimal programming effort. Neither is having clients required to load up and use someone elses software like auto hot key - they should be able to buy the product, turn it on and use it - not turn it on and hope they can figure out some way to fix it before even using it. At least from the prior postings this would seem to be the case. Does this make sense or am I missing something? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/softwarethatwo rks%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Num Lock
Hi: So, if there is to be a setting in the Window-eyes control panel to unlock the numlock, as rick said, this setting would also have to remap the number keys on the number pad to perform the alternate numberpad functions, I don't even know if this would be possiblee. Kevin Huber On 4/25/15, Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi: OK, so we can either set the applications key function using auto hot key or use shift and f10 and that is ok. Now, why not have a WE setting in the control panel to lock the num lock setting and perhaps a hot key combo to toggle it? Using the f10 key would then become the default WE Applications key and the num lock could be toggled easily or set in the WE Control Panel. Just a thought on what seems an easy fix to a potential major headache for WE Users who get confused with the newer keyboards not having these keys. WE should work with modern technologies out of the box and this would eliminate these 2 problems me thinks. Searching for non-standard modern or outdated keyboards is not a good thing to force your clients into having to do to use your product when it is not necessary at all with minimal programming effort. Neither is having clients required to load up and use someone elses software like auto hot key - they should be able to buy the product, turn it on and use it - not turn it on and hope they can figure out some way to fix it before even using it. At least from the prior postings this would seem to be the case. Does this make sense or am I missing something? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Num Lock
Hi Rick, Just following up this message which I had kept. The thing is that, for the lady, Carol, I wrote the app for, she says her brother's NumPad doesn't have a NumLock, but now it looks like the number keys on that NumPad don't have the normal alternate functions like normal Numpads do. So, now what? Smile Take care, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:29 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Num Lock Hi: OK, so we can either set the applications key function using auto hot key or use shift and f10 and that is ok. Now, why not have a WE setting in the control panel to lock the num lock setting and perhaps a hot key combo to toggle it? Using the f10 key would then become the default WE Applications key and the num lock could be toggled easily or set in the WE Control Panel. Just a thought on what seems an easy fix to a potential major headache for WE Users who get confused with the newer keyboards not having these keys. WE should work with modern technologies out of the box and this would eliminate these 2 problems me thinks. Searching for non-standard modern or outdated keyboards is not a good thing to force your clients into having to do to use your product when it is not necessary at all with minimal programming effort. Neither is having clients required to load up and use someone elses software like auto hot key - they should be able to buy the product, turn it on and use it - not turn it on and hope they can figure out some way to fix it before even using it. At least from the prior postings this would seem to be the case. Does this make sense or am I missing something? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
