Re: top bottom index
Martin, you are correct in saying that the speak top bottom setting in Jaws is sort of like the one in wineyes. It is not equivalent, but I guess its the closest it will get. For example, as you pointed out, it doesn't work in windows explorer, or file explorer in win 10. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
Does it work in a email message list such as in windows live mail? -Original Message- From: Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 10:42 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Marten Post Uiterweer Subject: Re: top bottom index Russ, Jaws does have a sort of top-bottom alert function. Not as nice as in Window-Eyes. Press ins-v and type: top arrow down, you land on: top and bottom edge alert here you ca choose for silent and alert with sound. It will not work in the windows explorer pane, but in a real listview it works, but a bit slower then the function in Window-Eyes. Regards, Marten On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 06:24:08 -0700 Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: I would like to see Jaws to be able to speak top bottom like Window Eyes? -Original Message- From: BK via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:57 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: BK Subject: Re: top bottom index Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
I did and that doesn't give you top and bottom like window eyes. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 10:40 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: top bottom index You need to read this list thoroughly. Someone else posted the Jaws equivalent of top-bottom. On 3/23/2018 9:24 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: I would like to see Jaws to be able to speak top bottom like Window Eyes? -Original Message- From: BK via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:57 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: BK Subject: Re: top bottom index Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
Russ, Jaws does have a sort of top-bottom alert function. Not as nice as in Window-Eyes. Press ins-v and type: top arrow down, you land on: top and bottom edge alert here you ca choose for silent and alert with sound. It will not work in the windows explorer pane, but in a real listview it works, but a bit slower then the function in Window-Eyes. Regards, Marten On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 06:24:08 -0700 Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: > I would like to see Jaws to be able to speak top bottom like Window Eyes? > > -Original Message- From: BK via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:57 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: BK > Subject: Re: top bottom index > > Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws > has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? > > Butch > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
You need to read this list thoroughly. Someone else posted the Jaws equivalent of top-bottom. On 3/23/2018 9:24 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: > I would like to see Jaws to be able to speak top bottom like Window Eyes? > > -Original Message- From: BK via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:57 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: BK > Subject: Re: top bottom index > > Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws > has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? > > Butch > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. > > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. > > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
I would like to see Jaws to be able to speak top bottom like Window Eyes? -Original Message- From: BK via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:57 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: BK Subject: Re: top bottom index Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
From the messagese, earlier on this list, and the tiny bit I have fooled with Jaws, I am afraid I have to bear you bad news. NVDA does support top and bottom indexing, but far as I am informed, Jaws does not. What else does Jaws not support? smiles. Sure, it is a great miss not to know the indexes. So should it happen that anyone has a workaround for Jaws - maybe a script - please might they chime in. On 3/23/2018 12:11 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > Sorry, butch. I've barely skimmed the surface of JAWS. > Good luck, > Tom > > > On 3/22/2018 12:57 PM, BK via Talk wrote: >> Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws >> has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? >> >> Butch >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: top bottom index
JAWS as a setting for "Top And Bottom Edge" in General settings. I think this will do what you want. You can move through the choices with the SPACE bar between announcing the edge, alerting with sound, or off. If you open quick settings with the JAWS key and the letter V, you can get there the quickest by tabbing to the tree of options and then pressing the letter t. I fount it on the fourth press or so. Remember that if an application has its own set of settings, changing this setting may only affect the running application. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:12 PM To: BK via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: top bottom index Sorry, butch. I've barely skimmed the surface of JAWS. Good luck, Tom On 3/22/2018 12:57 PM, BK via Talk wrote: > Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws > has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? > > Butch > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson %40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
Sorry, butch. I've barely skimmed the surface of JAWS. Good luck, Tom On 3/22/2018 12:57 PM, BK via Talk wrote: Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
Found it, thank you Tom. Now, do you or anyone on the list know if Jaws has an equivalent, speak top bottom, setting? Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: top bottom index
Verbosity, common, miscellaneous, speak top/bottom indexes. Hth, Tom On 3/21/2018 12:09 PM, BK via Talk wrote: Hello, can anyone tell me where to find the window eyes setting that tells you when you are at the top or bottom of a list of items. I think the setting is called top bottom index, but I'm not sure. Thank you much. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
