Re: Reminder about Thunderbird question

2015-08-09 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

Oops. Sorry. I forgot that Mozilla breaks accessibility with every new
release of Firefox and Thunderbird. That's why I don't use Firefox and
am using Thunderbird 31.6. The mouse works fine here. And if I ever get
around to it I'll dump TB as well. Mozilla has made it clear that we are 
nothing. They know exactly what they're doing.


Regards,
Tom


On 8/9/2015 10:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Tom,

The problem with this method is, the mouse pointer can't seem to get to
the area of the screen to start dragging in the first place.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Tom Kingston"

To: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" ; "Window-Eyes
Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Reminder about Thunderbird question



I did this a long time ago using the mouse drag and drop hot key. And
I remember having to track down how to do it in Thunderbird help
because there was some quirk about how you could move these items. I
don't remember what that was now. But in the end I got it done without
too much trouble. Below is the Window-Eyes help for the Drag and Drop
hot key.

Mouse Drag and Drop.
Window-Eyes provides a straight-forward method to perform a drag and
drop operation with the mouse. Follow these steps to
drag and drop.

Move the mouse pointer to the item you want to move or the start of
the text you want to select.
Press the Mouse Drag and Drop hot key, which is Insert-Numpad-Delete
by default. Window-Eyes will say, "mark."
Move the pointer to where you want the item to move or where end of
the text you want to select.
Press the Mouse Drag and Drop hot key again.
A dialog will open. Choose "Drop," and press Enter.  Note that for the
drag and drop to work successfully, both the start and end locations
you choose must remain visible. The operation will fail if part of the
area is covered up by another window.

Hth,
Tom


On 8/8/2015 5:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:

BTW, still, hardly anyone has written me back about my other TB
question.

Is there a reliable way that I can move the message headings around in
the message list?  So, say for example, that a folder has it where the
subject is first, followed then by the sender's name.  What I want to do
is reverse that so it looks more like Outlook.  I want it where it has
the sender's name, then the subject, then finally the date.

My mom was able to fix this for me on my main inbox folder of GMail by
dragging the sender's name header and dropping it on the subject header
to reverse them with the physical mouse, but try as I may in version 38
of TB, I cannot seem to get my mouse pointer to focus there where I can
do this myself.  It used to work, but apparently not anymore unless you
all know something I don't.  The bad thing is, I thought that would work
globally, I didn't realize when she was doing this for me that there is
a graphic you gotta click to apply to all folders.

Could someone maybe write me a script that would shift those two flip
flopped on the active folder when TB is fully maximized, then hit the
graphic to apply to all folders?

I'd be happy to pay via PayPal if someone could do that for me, if there
really isn't a reliable way otherwise.  I couldn't pay a huge amount for
the script, but I'd be happy to pay up to $20 for it, should it not
already be easily possible.

Just let me know.

Chris.
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Re: Reminder about Thunderbird question

2015-08-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk

Tom,

The problem with this method is, the mouse pointer can't seem to get to the 
area of the screen to start dragging in the first place.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kingston" 
To: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" ; "Window-Eyes 
Discussion List" 

Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Reminder about Thunderbird question


I did this a long time ago using the mouse drag and drop hot key. And I 
remember having to track down how to do it in Thunderbird help because 
there was some quirk about how you could move these items. I don't remember 
what that was now. But in the end I got it done without too much trouble. 
Below is the Window-Eyes help for the Drag and Drop hot key.


Mouse Drag and Drop.
Window-Eyes provides a straight-forward method to perform a drag and drop 
operation with the mouse. Follow these steps to

drag and drop.

Move the mouse pointer to the item you want to move or the start of the 
text you want to select.
Press the Mouse Drag and Drop hot key, which is Insert-Numpad-Delete by 
default. Window-Eyes will say, "mark."
Move the pointer to where you want the item to move or where end of the 
text you want to select.

Press the Mouse Drag and Drop hot key again.
A dialog will open. Choose "Drop," and press Enter.  Note that for the 
drag and drop to work successfully, both the start and end locations you 
choose must remain visible. The operation will fail if part of the area is 
covered up by another window.


Hth,
Tom


On 8/8/2015 5:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:

BTW, still, hardly anyone has written me back about my other TB question.

Is there a reliable way that I can move the message headings around in
the message list?  So, say for example, that a folder has it where the
subject is first, followed then by the sender's name.  What I want to do
is reverse that so it looks more like Outlook.  I want it where it has
the sender's name, then the subject, then finally the date.

My mom was able to fix this for me on my main inbox folder of GMail by
dragging the sender's name header and dropping it on the subject header
to reverse them with the physical mouse, but try as I may in version 38
of TB, I cannot seem to get my mouse pointer to focus there where I can
do this myself.  It used to work, but apparently not anymore unless you
all know something I don't.  The bad thing is, I thought that would work
globally, I didn't realize when she was doing this for me that there is
a graphic you gotta click to apply to all folders.

Could someone maybe write me a script that would shift those two flip
flopped on the active folder when TB is fully maximized, then hit the
graphic to apply to all folders?

I'd be happy to pay via PayPal if someone could do that for me, if there
really isn't a reliable way otherwise.  I couldn't pay a huge amount for
the script, but I'd be happy to pay up to $20 for it, should it not
already be easily possible.

Just let me know.

Chris.
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Re: Reminder about Thunderbird question

2015-08-09 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

Don't know if it will work, but did you try alt-v?

On 8/8/2015 5:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:

BTW, still, hardly anyone has written me back about my other TB question.

Is there a reliable way that I can move the message headings around in 
the message list?  So, say for example, that a folder has it where the 
subject is first, followed then by the sender's name.  What I want to 
do is reverse that so it looks more like Outlook.  I want it where it 
has the sender's name, then the subject, then finally the date.


My mom was able to fix this for me on my main inbox folder of GMail by 
dragging the sender's name header and dropping it on the subject 
header to reverse them with the physical mouse, but try as I may in 
version 38 of TB, I cannot seem to get my mouse pointer to focus there 
where I can do this myself.  It used to work, but apparently not 
anymore unless you all know something I don't.  The bad thing is, I 
thought that would work globally, I didn't realize when she was doing 
this for me that there is a graphic you gotta click to apply to all 
folders.


Could someone maybe write me a script that would shift those two flip 
flopped on the active folder when TB is fully maximized, then hit the 
graphic to apply to all folders?


I'd be happy to pay via PayPal if someone could do that for me, if 
there really isn't a reliable way otherwise.  I couldn't pay a huge 
amount for the script, but I'd be happy to pay up to $20 for it, 
should it not already be easily possible.


Just let me know.

Chris.
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Re: Reminder about Thunderbird question

2015-08-08 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
I did this a long time ago using the mouse drag and drop hot key. And I 
remember having to track down how to do it in Thunderbird help because 
there was some quirk about how you could move these items. I don't 
remember what that was now. But in the end I got it done without too 
much trouble. Below is the Window-Eyes help for the Drag and Drop hot key.


Mouse Drag and Drop.
Window-Eyes provides a straight-forward method to perform a drag and 
drop operation with the mouse. Follow these steps to

drag and drop.

Move the mouse pointer to the item you want to move or the start of the 
text you want to select.
Press the Mouse Drag and Drop hot key, which is Insert-Numpad-Delete by 
default. Window-Eyes will say, "mark."
Move the pointer to where you want the item to move or where end of the 
text you want to select.

Press the Mouse Drag and Drop hot key again.
A dialog will open. Choose "Drop," and press Enter.  Note that for the 
drag and drop to work successfully, both the start and end locations you 
choose must remain visible. The operation will fail if part of the area 
is covered up by another window.


Hth,
Tom


On 8/8/2015 5:22 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:

BTW, still, hardly anyone has written me back about my other TB question.

Is there a reliable way that I can move the message headings around in
the message list?  So, say for example, that a folder has it where the
subject is first, followed then by the sender's name.  What I want to do
is reverse that so it looks more like Outlook.  I want it where it has
the sender's name, then the subject, then finally the date.

My mom was able to fix this for me on my main inbox folder of GMail by
dragging the sender's name header and dropping it on the subject header
to reverse them with the physical mouse, but try as I may in version 38
of TB, I cannot seem to get my mouse pointer to focus there where I can
do this myself.  It used to work, but apparently not anymore unless you
all know something I don't.  The bad thing is, I thought that would work
globally, I didn't realize when she was doing this for me that there is
a graphic you gotta click to apply to all folders.

Could someone maybe write me a script that would shift those two flip
flopped on the active folder when TB is fully maximized, then hit the
graphic to apply to all folders?

I'd be happy to pay via PayPal if someone could do that for me, if there
really isn't a reliable way otherwise.  I couldn't pay a huge amount for
the script, but I'd be happy to pay up to $20 for it, should it not
already be easily possible.

Just let me know.

Chris.
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