Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Aaron Smith via Talk
Greetings,

The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual View, but 
I wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for more 
information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.

Thanks,

Aaron



Virtual View

1 Overview
Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a 
program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text retrieval 
methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window without 
disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the buttons, 
links and other controls found in the original window that was virtualized can 
be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using simple keyboard 
commands.
This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:

* Reading image based PDF files

* Reading text presented as an image

* Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program windows

* Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard accessibility

* Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint presentation

2 Getting Started
The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog. You 
may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-Eyes 
Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing Alt-Print Screen. 
Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a snapshot of the 
active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View virtualize this 
image when the hotkey is pressed.
3 Selecting a Source
Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps menu, 
will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be displayed. 
You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to virtualize. You 
may choose from one of three sources:

1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the current 
application window to be used as the source.

2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the 
current control in the active application to be used as the source.

3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View to 
prompt for a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.

3.1   Supported File Types
Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types. 
Exactly which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available file 
"filters" installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic 
interfaces for accessing contents of files. Several filters come pre-installed 
with your operating system. The most common file types include:

* Text

* XML

* HTML

* Zip
Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing 
Virtual View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:

* Docx

* Xlsx

* Pptx

4 Choosing a Method
After you've selected a source, whether it be a window or a file, you can then 
choose how you want Virtual View to obtain the text from the source. The 
methods available will differ depending on which source type is selected.

1.   Clips (C) - The clips method will use the OSM (Off-Screen Model) to 
retrieve text from a window.

2.   UIA (A) - This UIA method will use the UI Automation interface to 
retrieve text from a window.

3.   OCR (O) - This method uses OCR (optical character recognition) to 
retrieve text from either a window or a file.

4.   Version (V) - This method provides version information for a window or 
file.
Which method you choose depends on a number of factors, and there are 
advantages of each.
Clips is the most common method for accessing the text of a window. They 
provide a good way for accessing precise locations of text for easy 
manipulation with Virtual View's quick keys (discussed below).
The advantage of using UIA is evident when obtaining text from windows that do 
not show up in the OSM. WPF applications, and other Direct2D programs, are good 
examples of windows that have rich UIA information while at the same time are 
completely void of clips. The UIA method obtains text directly from the window 
rather than from the OSM, often resulting in higher text accuracy.
OCR is a preferred choice when working with graphical interfaces, or files 
containing images. While you don't have the benefit of knowing exactly where 
the text is presented on the screen, you do have access to otherwise completely 
inaccessible text.
5 The Virtual View Window
After Virtual View has obtained the text from the selected source, using the 
chosen method, it will display the resulting text in a read only edit box. The 
Virtual View dialog contains a menu bar with the following options:

* File (F)

o   Open (O) - Control-O - Opens support file types.

o   Save (S) - Control-S - Saves current text.

o   Exit (X) - Exits Virtual View

* Edit (E)

o 

Re: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Joe Paton via Talk
Thanks Aaron.

One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?

Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.

Joe Paton


On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
Aaron Smith via Talk  wrote:

Greetings,

The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual View, but 
I wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for more 
information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.

Thanks,

Aaron



Virtual View

1 Overview
Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a 
program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text retrieval 
methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window without 
disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the buttons, 
links and other controls found in the original window that was virtualized can 
be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using simple keyboard 
commands.
This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:

* Reading image based PDF files

* Reading text presented as an image

* Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program windows

* Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard accessibility

* Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint presentation

2 Getting Started
The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog. You 
may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-Eyes 
Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing Alt-Print Screen. 
Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a snapshot of the 
active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View virtualize this 
image when the hotkey is pressed.
3 Selecting a Source
Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps menu, 
will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be displayed. 
You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to virtualize. You 
may choose from one of three sources:

1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the current 
application window to be used as the source.

2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the 
current control in the active application to be used as the source.

3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View to 
prompt for a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.

3.1   Supported File Types
Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types. 
Exactly which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available file 
"filters" installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic 
interfaces for accessing contents of files. Several filters come pre-installed 
with your operating system. The most common file types include:

* Text

* XML

* HTML

* Zip
Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing 
Virtual View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:

* Docx

* Xlsx

* Pptx

4 Choosing a Method
After you've selected a source, whether it be a window or a file, you can then 
choose how you want Virtual View to obtain the text from the source. The 
methods available will differ depending on which source type is selected.

1.   Clips (C) - The clips method will use the OSM (Off-Screen Model) to 
retrieve text from a window.

2.   UIA (A) - This UIA method will use the UI Automation interface to 
retrieve text from a window.

3.   OCR (O) - This method uses OCR (optical character recognition) to 
retrieve text from either a window or a file.

4.   Version (V) - This method provides version information for a window or 
file.
Which method you choose depends on a number of factors, and there are 
advantages of each.
Clips is the most common method for accessing the text of a window. They 
provide a good way for accessing precise locations of text for easy 
manipulation with Virtual View's quick keys (discussed below).
The advantage of using UIA is evident when obtaining text from windows that do 
not show up in the OSM. WPF applications, and other Direct2D programs, are good 
examples of windows that have rich UIA information while at the same time are 
completely void of clips. The UIA method obtains text directly from the window 
rather than from the OSM, often resulting in higher text accuracy.
OCR is a preferred choice when working with graphical interfaces, or files 
containing images. While you don't have the benefit of knowing exactly where 
the text is presented on the screen, you do have access to otherwise completely 
inaccessible text.
5 The Virtual View Window
After Virtual View has obtained the text from the selected source, using the 
chosen method, it will display the resulting text in a read only edit box. The 
Virtual View 

RE: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Aaron Smith via Talk
Captchas are design to elude OCR, so, probably not.

Thanks,

Aaron

-- 
Aaron Smith 
Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist
Ai Squared * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
260-489-3671 * www.aisquared.com

To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past 
correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information pertinent to 
your situation when submitting a problem report to the Ai Squared Technical 
Support Team.


> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Paton [mailto:j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:42 PM
> To: Aaron Smith <asm...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Virtual View User's Guide
> 
> Thanks Aaron.
> 
> One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?
> 
> Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.
> 
> Joe Paton
> 
> 
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
> Aaron Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual View, 
> but I
> wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for more
> information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> 
> Virtual View
> 
> 1 Overview
> Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a
> program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text retrieval
> methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window
> without disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the
> buttons, links and other controls found in the original window that was
> virtualized can be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using
> simple keyboard commands.
> This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:
> 
> * Reading image based PDF files
> 
> * Reading text presented as an image
> 
> * Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program 
> windows
> 
> * Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard accessibility
> 
> * Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint presentation
> 
> 2 Getting Started
> The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog. You
> may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-
> Eyes Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing Alt-Print
> Screen. Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a snapshot
> of the active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View virtualize
> this image when the hotkey is pressed.
> 3 Selecting a Source
> Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps
> menu, will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be
> displayed. You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to
> virtualize. You may choose from one of three sources:
> 
> 1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the 
> current
> application window to be used as the source.
> 
> 2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the 
> current
> control in the active application to be used as the source.
> 
> 3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View to 
> prompt for
> a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.
> 
> 3.1   Supported File Types
> Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types. 
> Exactly
> which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available file 
> "filters"
> installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic interfaces for
> accessing contents of files. Several filters come pre-installed with your
> operating system. The most common file types include:
> 
> * Text
> 
> * XML
> 
> * HTML
> 
> * Zip
> Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing 
> Virtual
> View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:
> 
> * Docx
> 
> * Xlsx
> 
> * Pptx
> 
> 4 Choosing a Method
> After you've selected a source, whether it be a window or a file, you can
> then choose how you want Virtual View to obtain the text from the source.
> The methods available will differ depending on which source type is selected.
> 
> 1.   Clips (C) - The clips method will use the OSM (Off-Screen Model) to
> retrieve text from a window.
> 
> 2.   UIA (A) - This UIA method will use the UI Automation interface to
> retrieve text from a window.

Re: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
You're right, Kevin. There's no magic in Webvisum. It's a human being 
looking at it, typing it in, and sending it out to you.


Tom


On 11/6/2015 1:04 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Rod:
It has been a while since I had to solve captchas, but I used Webvisom
quite successfully.   I think that when you press the hotkey that
sends the captcha, there are one or more humans on the other end, one
of them solves the captcha and the software automatically sends it to
your clipboard so you can paste it into the proper area.
Kevin Huber

On 11/6/15, Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

And yet it is my understanding that webvisum, the Firefox add-on, does
precisely this in order to solve captchas.

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: November 6, 2015 12:45 PM
To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Virtual View User's Guide

Captchas are design to elude OCR, so, probably not.

Thanks,

Aaron

--
Aaron Smith
Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist
Ai Squared * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
260-489-3671 * www.aisquared.com

To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past
correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information pertinent
to
your situation when submitting a problem report to the Ai Squared Technical
Support Team.



-Original Message-
From: Joe Paton [mailto:j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:42 PM
To: Aaron Smith <asm...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Virtual View User's Guide

Thanks Aaron.

One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?

Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.

Joe Paton


On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
Aaron Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Greetings,

The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual

View, but I

wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for
more
information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.

Thanks,

Aaron



Virtual View

1 Overview
Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a
program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text

retrieval

methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window
without disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the
buttons, links and other controls found in the original window that was
virtualized can be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using
simple keyboard commands.
This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:

* Reading image based PDF files

* Reading text presented as an image

* Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program

windows


* Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard

accessibility


* Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint

presentation


2 Getting Started
The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog.

You

may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-
Eyes Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing

Alt-Print

Screen. Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a

snapshot

of the active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View

virtualize

this image when the hotkey is pressed.
3 Selecting a Source
Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps
menu, will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be
displayed. You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to
virtualize. You may choose from one of three sources:

1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the

current

application window to be used as the source.

2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the

current

control in the active application to be used as the source.

3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View
to

prompt for

a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.

3.1   Supported File Types
Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types.

Exactly

which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available file

"filters"

installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic interfaces

for

accessing contents of files. Several filters come pre-installed with your
operating system. The most common file types include:

* Text

* XML

* HTML

* Zip
Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing

Virtual

View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:

* Docx

* X

RE: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
And yet it is my understanding that webvisum, the Firefox add-on, does
precisely this in order to solve captchas.

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: November 6, 2015 12:45 PM
To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Virtual View User's Guide

Captchas are design to elude OCR, so, probably not.

Thanks,

Aaron

-- 
Aaron Smith 
Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist
Ai Squared * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
260-489-3671 * www.aisquared.com

To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past
correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information pertinent to
your situation when submitting a problem report to the Ai Squared Technical
Support Team.


> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Paton [mailto:j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:42 PM
> To: Aaron Smith <asm...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Virtual View User's Guide
> 
> Thanks Aaron.
> 
> One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?
> 
> Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.
> 
> Joe Paton
> 
> 
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
> Aaron Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual
View, but I
> wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for more
> information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> 
> Virtual View
> 
> 1 Overview
> Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a
> program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text
retrieval
> methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window
> without disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the
> buttons, links and other controls found in the original window that was
> virtualized can be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using
> simple keyboard commands.
> This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:
> 
> * Reading image based PDF files
> 
> * Reading text presented as an image
> 
> * Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program
windows
> 
> * Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard
accessibility
> 
> * Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint
presentation
> 
> 2 Getting Started
> The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog.
You
> may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-
> Eyes Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing
Alt-Print
> Screen. Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a
snapshot
> of the active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View
virtualize
> this image when the hotkey is pressed.
> 3 Selecting a Source
> Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps
> menu, will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be
> displayed. You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to
> virtualize. You may choose from one of three sources:
> 
> 1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
current
> application window to be used as the source.
> 
> 2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
current
> control in the active application to be used as the source.
> 
> 3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View to
prompt for
> a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.
> 
> 3.1   Supported File Types
> Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types.
Exactly
> which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available file
"filters"
> installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic interfaces
for
> accessing contents of files. Several filters come pre-installed with your
> operating system. The most common file types include:
> 
> * Text
> 
> * XML
> 
> * HTML
> 
> * Zip
> Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing
Virtual
> View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:
> 
> * Docx
> 
> * Xlsx
> 
> * Pptx
> 
> 4 Choosing a Method
> After you've selected a source, whether it be a window or a file, you can
> then choose how you want Virt

Re: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Rod:
It has been a while since I had to solve captchas, but I used Webvisom
quite successfully.   I think that when you press the hotkey that
sends the captcha, there are one or more humans on the other end, one
of them solves the captcha and the software automatically sends it to
your clipboard so you can paste it into the proper area.
Kevin Huber

On 11/6/15, Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> And yet it is my understanding that webvisum, the Firefox add-on, does
> precisely this in order to solve captchas.
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Aaron Smith via Talk
> Sent: November 6, 2015 12:45 PM
> To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: RE: Virtual View User's Guide
>
> Captchas are design to elude OCR, so, probably not.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
>
> --
> Aaron Smith
> Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist
> Ai Squared * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
> 260-489-3671 * www.aisquared.com
>
> To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past
> correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information pertinent
> to
> your situation when submitting a problem report to the Ai Squared Technical
> Support Team.
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joe Paton [mailto:j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk]
>> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:42 PM
>> To: Aaron Smith <asm...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>> Subject: Re: Virtual View User's Guide
>>
>> Thanks Aaron.
>>
>> One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?
>>
>> Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.
>>
>> Joe Paton
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
>> Aaron Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual
> View, but I
>> wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for
>> more
>> information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>> Virtual View
>>
>> 1 Overview
>> Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a
>> program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text
> retrieval
>> methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window
>> without disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the
>> buttons, links and other controls found in the original window that was
>> virtualized can be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using
>> simple keyboard commands.
>> This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:
>>
>> * Reading image based PDF files
>>
>> * Reading text presented as an image
>>
>> * Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program
> windows
>>
>> * Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard
> accessibility
>>
>> * Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint
> presentation
>>
>> 2 Getting Started
>> The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog.
> You
>> may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-
>> Eyes Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing
> Alt-Print
>> Screen. Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a
> snapshot
>> of the active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View
> virtualize
>> this image when the hotkey is pressed.
>> 3 Selecting a Source
>> Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps
>> menu, will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be
>> displayed. You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to
>> virtualize. You may choose from one of three sources:
>>
>> 1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
> current
>> application window to be used as the source.
>>
>> 2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
> current
>> control in the active application to be used as the source.
>>
>> 3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View
>> to
> prompt for
>> a file using a standard Wi

RE: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread via Talk
Thank you very much, Aaron!

Lou N.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 10:14 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Virtual View User's Guide

Greetings,

The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual View,
but I wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for
more information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.

Thanks,

Aaron



Virtual View

1 Overview
Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a
program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text retrieval
methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window
without disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the
buttons, links and other controls found in the original window that was
virtualized can be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using
simple keyboard commands.
This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:

* Reading image based PDF files

* Reading text presented as an image

* Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program
windows

* Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard accessibility

* Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint
presentation

2 Getting Started
The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog.
You may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the
Window-Eyes Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing
Alt-Print Screen. Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes
a snapshot of the active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View
virtualize this image when the hotkey is pressed.
3 Selecting a Source
Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps
menu, will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be
displayed. You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to
virtualize. You may choose from one of three sources:

1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
current application window to be used as the source.

2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
current control in the active application to be used as the source.

3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View to
prompt for a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.

3.1   Supported File Types
Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types.
Exactly which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available
file "filters" installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic
interfaces for accessing contents of files. Several filters come
pre-installed with your operating system. The most common file types
include:

* Text

* XML

* HTML

* Zip
Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing
Virtual View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:

* Docx

* Xlsx

* Pptx

4 Choosing a Method
After you've selected a source, whether it be a window or a file, you can
then choose how you want Virtual View to obtain the text from the source.
The methods available will differ depending on which source type is
selected.

1.   Clips (C) - The clips method will use the OSM (Off-Screen Model) to
retrieve text from a window.

2.   UIA (A) - This UIA method will use the UI Automation interface to
retrieve text from a window.

3.   OCR (O) - This method uses OCR (optical character recognition) to
retrieve text from either a window or a file.

4.   Version (V) - This method provides version information for a window
or file.
Which method you choose depends on a number of factors, and there are
advantages of each.
Clips is the most common method for accessing the text of a window. They
provide a good way for accessing precise locations of text for easy
manipulation with Virtual View's quick keys (discussed below).
The advantage of using UIA is evident when obtaining text from windows that
do not show up in the OSM. WPF applications, and other Direct2D programs,
are good examples of windows that have rich UIA information while at the
same time are completely void of clips. The UIA method obtains text directly
from the window rather than from the OSM, often resulting in higher text
accuracy.
OCR is a preferred choice when working with graphical interfaces, or files
containing images. While you don't have the benefit of knowing exactly where
the text is presented on the screen, you do have access to otherwise
completely inaccessible text.
5 The Virtual View Window
After Virtual View has obtained the text from the selected source, using the
chosen method, it will display the resulting text in 

Re: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread David via Talk
ll based on some catagories that were stored for that search query.


Did you think the human computers are just on their own - one person 
here, one there? Sure, many of them may be homeworkers, even all ages. 
And they are spread all over the globe. As a matter of facts, to have 
them spread widely in geographical terms, will prove beneficial. Not 
only does this ensure the service being operative to the highest extent, 
independetnt of whether one local line is out of service. But you as a 
user of the service, want your job done NOW, at ANY time of the day, ALL 
year round. When it is night locally with you, and all local human 
computers likely are away from their desk, the job is taken care of by 
someone on the other side of the globe. You just get the job done in a 
matter of seconds, and will be joyfully going on with your tasks.


OK, don't be fooled. A number of services that are provided over the 
net, REALLY are automatic services,all carried out by completely 
electronic pieces of hardware and software. they are more or less NEVER 
touched by any human, and will be done without any human even knowing 
thereof. But some of the services we use every day, will still be - and 
may even need to be - carried out by human computers. One example may be 
certain bank transactions, another could be captcha solving, thirdly we 
could mention services where security reasons or physical and technical 
reasons make it necessary with some human interaction. many of the 
services may be partially automated, only calling for human computers 
when  there is a given need, or if some unusual activity is ongoing.


OK, long message, but just wanted to let you know that there really is 
alot going on behind the scene of modern internetting.



On 11/6/2015 7:10 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
You're right, Kevin. There's no magic in Webvisum. It's a human being 
looking at it, typing it in, and sending it out to you.


Tom


On 11/6/2015 1:04 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Rod:
It has been a while since I had to solve captchas, but I used Webvisom
quite successfully.   I think that when you press the hotkey that
sends the captcha, there are one or more humans on the other end, one
of them solves the captcha and the software automatically sends it to
your clipboard so you can paste it into the proper area.
Kevin Huber

On 11/6/15, Rod Hutton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

And yet it is my understanding that webvisum, the Firefox add-on, does
precisely this in order to solve captchas.

Rod

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Behalf
Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: November 6, 2015 12:45 PM
To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: RE: Virtual View User's Guide

Captchas are design to elude OCR, so, probably not.

Thanks,

Aaron

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-Original Message-
From: Joe Paton [mailto:j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:42 PM
To: Aaron Smith <asm...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Virtual View User's Guide

Thanks Aaron.

One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?

Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.

Joe Paton


On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
Aaron Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Greetings,

The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual

View, but I

wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for
more
information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.

Thanks,

Aaron



Virtual View

1 Overview
Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation 
of a

program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text

retrieval

methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window
without disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some 
cases, the
buttons, links and other controls found in the original window that 
was
virtualized can be acted on directly from the Virtual View window 
using

simple keyboard commands.
This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:

* Reading image based PDF files

* Reading text presented as an image

* Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and 
program

windows


* Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard

accessibility


* Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint

presentation

RE: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk

I think they use human intervention.

At 09:57 AM 11/6/2015, you wrote:

And yet it is my understanding that webvisum, the Firefox add-on, does
precisely this in order to solve captchas.

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Aaron Smith via Talk
Sent: November 6, 2015 12:45 PM
To: j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Virtual View User's Guide

Captchas are design to elude OCR, so, probably not.

Thanks,

Aaron

--
Aaron Smith
Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist
Ai Squared * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
260-489-3671 * www.aisquared.com

To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past
correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information pertinent to
your situation when submitting a problem report to the Ai Squared Technical
Support Team.


> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Paton [mailto:j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:42 PM
> To: Aaron Smith <asm...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: Virtual View User's Guide
>
> Thanks Aaron.
>
> One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?
>
> Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.
>
> Joe Paton
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
> Aaron Smith via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual
View, but I
> wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for more
> information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
> Virtual View
>
> 1 Overview
> Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a
> program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text
retrieval
> methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window
> without disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the
> buttons, links and other controls found in the original window that was
> virtualized can be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using
> simple keyboard commands.
> This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:
>
> * Reading image based PDF files
>
> * Reading text presented as an image
>
> * Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program
windows
>
> * Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard
accessibility
>
> * Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint
presentation
>
> 2 Getting Started
> The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog.
You
> may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-
> Eyes Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing
Alt-Print
> Screen. Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a
snapshot
> of the active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View
virtualize
> this image when the hotkey is pressed.
> 3 Selecting a Source
> Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps
> menu, will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be
> displayed. You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to
> virtualize. You may choose from one of three sources:
>
> 1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
current
> application window to be used as the source.
>
> 2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the
current
> control in the active application to be used as the source.
>
> 3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View to
prompt for
> a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.
>
> 3.1   Supported File Types
> Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types.
Exactly
> which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available file
"filters"
> installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic interfaces
for
> accessing contents of files. Several filters come pre-installed with your
> operating system. The most common file types include:
>
> * Text
>
> * XML
>
> * HTML
>
> * Zip
> Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing
Virtual
> View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:
>
> * Docx
>
> * Xlsx
>
> * Pptx
>
> 4 Choosing a Method
> After you've selected a source, whether it be a window or a fil