Re: Who are VFO officers?

2016-10-04 Thread Loy via Talk
Does Doug G have an office in VFO, or is he still just part of AISquared.
  - Original Message - 
  From: RJ Sandefur via Talk 
  To: Sky Mundell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 1:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Who are VFO officers?


  I know some of the heigher up's from serving in the NFBF with them. RJ


  On 10/4/2016 12:10 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
  > Well, we have Erick Dannery, vice president management for software, and we
  > have Glen Gordon who is the Cheef technology officer who is blind. We have
  > Brad Davis, Dan Clark, Dusty somebody, Bryan Carver, who is also blind, and
  > a whole lot of other people, and we also have Jonathan Mosen who produces
  > the monthly podcast.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
  > Behalf Of Loy via Talk
  > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:47 AM
  > To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Who are VFO officers?
  >
  > Does anyone know who the officers of VFO are. I did a search and only found
  > the CEO. I'd like to know what position Doug has now.
  > - Original Message -
  >From: David via Talk
  >To: mcommerf...@comcast.net ; Window-EyesDiscussion List ; RJ Sandefur
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:39 AM
  >Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
  >
  >
  >Are you sure, they even know? :) Maybe that kind of decisions are made
  >FAR above their head, by the "real owners", behind the scene. Staff
  >members do not always know what is going on, anything much before the
  >rest of us will get informed.
  >
  >
  >It will be a challenge, should WE go away. Yet, who knows what the whole
  >market looks like even tomorrow. Let's hope they keep WE running for a
  >bit longer.
  >
  >
  >
  >David
  >
  >On 10/4/2016 5:29 PM, Marvin Commerford via Talk wrote:
  >> I think they do have an idea.  Did you mis Dan's retirement?  Now Doug
  >> works for them so he can't very well say things the company doesn't
  >> want him to say.  There's a lot of hand writing on the wall to
  >> indicate that we'll really have freedom from choice.  Would love to be
  >> wrong but it's difficult to ignore the many signs that indicate that
  >> we're going to be swallowed up by FS.
  >>
  >> On 10/3/2016 9:51 AM, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote:
  >>> You all have know idea what you're talking about. Stop asuming things.
  >>> Window eyes is not going away! If it wire, I think Doug or Dan would
  > let
  >>> us know! RJ
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 10/3/2016 10:36 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
  >>>> I'm sure they will hear an earful from those of us who like and use
  >>>> Window-Eyes.  And yes, it's my money, and I want a good product.
  >>>> Perhaps there should be more transparency as to what they plan to do.
  >>>> Tell me straight, and I'll make my own decisions with my feet and my
  >>>> wallet.--Matthew Chao
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> On 10/3/2016 10:25 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
  >>>>> Countdown to the demise of we y'all. I been calling it, we and 
fusion
  >>>>> will
  >>>>> be killed, magic will be put to it's deserved death fs always knew
  >>>>> magic
  >>>>> sucked and was a complete joke. The shark and zt will be made to 
work
  >>>>> together and we'll be offered oh, so great upgrade pricing
  >>>>> sarcasm.  Of
  >>>>> course people are now gonna say stop complaining.  When i'm spending
  >>>>> my own
  >>>>> money on something i have a right to complain. Fs's upgrade model is
  >>>>> stupid
  >>>>> to update my old copy of the shark and magic would cost a arm, leg
  > and
  >>>>> first born child.
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>>
  >>>>> On Monday, October 3, 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >>>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  >>>>> wrote:
  >>>>>
  >>>>>> If I'm stuck with using JAWS, I hope someone comes out with a
  >>>>>> alternate
  >>>>>> keyboard layout for NVDA to make it use all of the same hot keys as
  >>>>>> Window
  >>>>>&g

RE: Who are VFO officers?

2016-10-04 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
Minor correction, Eric Damery

Chris


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On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 12:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Who are VFO officers?

Well, we have Erick Dannery, vice president management for software, and we 
have Glen Gordon who is the Cheef technology officer who is blind. We have Brad 
Davis, Dan Clark, Dusty somebody, Bryan Carver, who is also blind, and a whole 
lot of other people, and we also have Jonathan Mosen who produces the monthly 
podcast.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:47 AM
To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Who are VFO officers?

Does anyone know who the officers of VFO are. I did a search and only found the 
CEO. I'd like to know what position Doug has now.
- Original Message -
  From: David via Talk
  To: mcommerf...@comcast.net ; Window-EyesDiscussion List ; RJ Sandefur
  Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes


  Are you sure, they even know? :) Maybe that kind of decisions are made
  FAR above their head, by the "real owners", behind the scene. Staff
  members do not always know what is going on, anything much before the
  rest of us will get informed.


  It will be a challenge, should WE go away. Yet, who knows what the whole
  market looks like even tomorrow. Let's hope they keep WE running for a
  bit longer.



  David

  On 10/4/2016 5:29 PM, Marvin Commerford via Talk wrote:
  > I think they do have an idea.  Did you mis Dan's retirement?  Now Doug
  > works for them so he can't very well say things the company doesn't
  > want him to say.  There's a lot of hand writing on the wall to
  > indicate that we'll really have freedom from choice.  Would love to be
  > wrong but it's difficult to ignore the many signs that indicate that
  > we're going to be swallowed up by FS.
  >
  > On 10/3/2016 9:51 AM, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote:
  >> You all have know idea what you're talking about. Stop asuming things.
  >> Window eyes is not going away! If it wire, I think Doug or Dan would let
  >> us know! RJ
  >>
  >>
  >> On 10/3/2016 10:36 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
  >>> I'm sure they will hear an earful from those of us who like and use
  >>> Window-Eyes.  And yes, it's my money, and I want a good product.
  >>> Perhaps there should be more transparency as to what they plan to do.
  >>> Tell me straight, and I'll make my own decisions with my feet and my
  >>> wallet.--Matthew Chao
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 10/3/2016 10:25 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
  >>>> Countdown to the demise of we y'all. I been calling it, we and fusion
  >>>> will
  >>>> be killed, magic will be put to it's deserved death fs always knew
  >>>> magic
  >>>> sucked and was a complete joke. The shark and zt will be made to work
  >>>> together and we'll be offered oh, so great upgrade pricing
  >>>> sarcasm.  Of
  >>>> course people are now gonna say stop complaining.  When i'm spending
  >>>> my own
  >>>> money on something i have a right to complain. Fs's upgrade model is
  >>>> stupid
  >>>> to update my old copy of the shark and magic would cost a arm, leg and
  >>>> first born child.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> On Monday, October 3, 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  >>>> wrote:
  >>>>
  >>>>> If I'm stuck with using JAWS, I hope someone comes out with a
  >>>>> alternate
  >>>>> keyboard layout for NVDA to make it use all of the same hot keys as
  >>>>> Window
  >>>>> Eyes.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk
  >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:04 PM
  >>>>> To: 'Butch Bussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  >>>>> Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Hi. Its understandable why you would not mess with JAWS. I have to
  >>>>> use JAWS
  >>>>> for my work as a musician and recording engineer, but detest it
  >>>>> for its
  >>>>> copy-protection. I also work as a adaptive technology instructor and
  >

Re: Who are VFO officers?

2016-10-04 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
I know some of the heigher up's from serving in the NFBF with them. RJ


On 10/4/2016 12:10 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
> Well, we have Erick Dannery, vice president management for software, and we
> have Glen Gordon who is the Cheef technology officer who is blind. We have
> Brad Davis, Dan Clark, Dusty somebody, Bryan Carver, who is also blind, and
> a whole lot of other people, and we also have Jonathan Mosen who produces
> the monthly podcast.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Loy via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:47 AM
> To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Who are VFO officers?
>
> Does anyone know who the officers of VFO are. I did a search and only found
> the CEO. I'd like to know what position Doug has now.
> - Original Message -
>From: David via Talk
>To: mcommerf...@comcast.net ; Window-EyesDiscussion List ; RJ Sandefur
>Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:39 AM
>Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
>
>
>Are you sure, they even know? :) Maybe that kind of decisions are made
>FAR above their head, by the "real owners", behind the scene. Staff
>members do not always know what is going on, anything much before the
>rest of us will get informed.
>
>
>It will be a challenge, should WE go away. Yet, who knows what the whole
>market looks like even tomorrow. Let's hope they keep WE running for a
>bit longer.
>
>
>
>David
>
>On 10/4/2016 5:29 PM, Marvin Commerford via Talk wrote:
>> I think they do have an idea.  Did you mis Dan's retirement?  Now Doug
>> works for them so he can't very well say things the company doesn't
>> want him to say.  There's a lot of hand writing on the wall to
>> indicate that we'll really have freedom from choice.  Would love to be
>> wrong but it's difficult to ignore the many signs that indicate that
>> we're going to be swallowed up by FS.
>>
>> On 10/3/2016 9:51 AM, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote:
>>> You all have know idea what you're talking about. Stop asuming things.
>>> Window eyes is not going away! If it wire, I think Doug or Dan would
> let
>>> us know! RJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2016 10:36 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
>>>> I'm sure they will hear an earful from those of us who like and use
>>>> Window-Eyes.  And yes, it's my money, and I want a good product.
>>>> Perhaps there should be more transparency as to what they plan to do.
>>>> Tell me straight, and I'll make my own decisions with my feet and my
>>>> wallet.--Matthew Chao
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/3/2016 10:25 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
>>>>> Countdown to the demise of we y'all. I been calling it, we and fusion
>>>>> will
>>>>> be killed, magic will be put to it's deserved death fs always knew
>>>>> magic
>>>>> sucked and was a complete joke. The shark and zt will be made to work
>>>>> together and we'll be offered oh, so great upgrade pricing
>>>>> sarcasm.  Of
>>>>> course people are now gonna say stop complaining.  When i'm spending
>>>>> my own
>>>>> money on something i have a right to complain. Fs's upgrade model is
>>>>> stupid
>>>>> to update my old copy of the shark and magic would cost a arm, leg
> and
>>>>> first born child.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, October 3, 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm stuck with using JAWS, I hope someone comes out with a
>>>>>> alternate
>>>>>> keyboard layout for NVDA to make it use all of the same hot keys as
>>>>>> Window
>>>>>> Eyes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:04 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Butch Bussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>>>>>> Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi. Its understandable why you would not mess with JAWS. I h

RE: Who are VFO officers?

2016-10-04 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Well, we have Erick Dannery, vice president management for software, and we
have Glen Gordon who is the Cheef technology officer who is blind. We have
Brad Davis, Dan Clark, Dusty somebody, Bryan Carver, who is also blind, and
a whole lot of other people, and we also have Jonathan Mosen who produces
the monthly podcast.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:47 AM
To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Who are VFO officers?

Does anyone know who the officers of VFO are. I did a search and only found
the CEO. I'd like to know what position Doug has now.
- Original Message - 
  From: David via Talk 
  To: mcommerf...@comcast.net ; Window-EyesDiscussion List ; RJ Sandefur 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes


  Are you sure, they even know? :) Maybe that kind of decisions are made 
  FAR above their head, by the "real owners", behind the scene. Staff 
  members do not always know what is going on, anything much before the 
  rest of us will get informed.


  It will be a challenge, should WE go away. Yet, who knows what the whole 
  market looks like even tomorrow. Let's hope they keep WE running for a 
  bit longer.



  David

  On 10/4/2016 5:29 PM, Marvin Commerford via Talk wrote:
  > I think they do have an idea.  Did you mis Dan's retirement?  Now Doug 
  > works for them so he can't very well say things the company doesn't 
  > want him to say.  There's a lot of hand writing on the wall to 
  > indicate that we'll really have freedom from choice.  Would love to be 
  > wrong but it's difficult to ignore the many signs that indicate that 
  > we're going to be swallowed up by FS.
  >
  > On 10/3/2016 9:51 AM, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote:
  >> You all have know idea what you're talking about. Stop asuming things.
  >> Window eyes is not going away! If it wire, I think Doug or Dan would
let
  >> us know! RJ
  >>
  >>
  >> On 10/3/2016 10:36 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
  >>> I'm sure they will hear an earful from those of us who like and use
  >>> Window-Eyes.  And yes, it's my money, and I want a good product.
  >>> Perhaps there should be more transparency as to what they plan to do.
  >>> Tell me straight, and I'll make my own decisions with my feet and my
  >>> wallet.--Matthew Chao
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 10/3/2016 10:25 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
  >>>> Countdown to the demise of we y'all. I been calling it, we and fusion
  >>>> will
  >>>> be killed, magic will be put to it's deserved death fs always knew 
  >>>> magic
  >>>> sucked and was a complete joke. The shark and zt will be made to work
  >>>> together and we'll be offered oh, so great upgrade pricing 
  >>>> sarcasm.  Of
  >>>> course people are now gonna say stop complaining.  When i'm spending
  >>>> my own
  >>>> money on something i have a right to complain. Fs's upgrade model is
  >>>> stupid
  >>>> to update my old copy of the shark and magic would cost a arm, leg
and
  >>>> first born child.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> On Monday, October 3, 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  >>>> wrote:
  >>>>
  >>>>> If I'm stuck with using JAWS, I hope someone comes out with a 
  >>>>> alternate
  >>>>> keyboard layout for NVDA to make it use all of the same hot keys as
  >>>>> Window
  >>>>> Eyes.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk
  >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:04 PM
  >>>>> To: 'Butch Bussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  >>>>> Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Hi. Its understandable why you would not mess with JAWS. I have to
  >>>>> use JAWS
  >>>>> for my work as a musician and recording engineer, but detest it 
  >>>>> for its
  >>>>> copy-protection. I also work as a adaptive technology instructor and
  >>>>> can
  >>>>> use
  >>>>> both alongside of NVDA to teach clients.
  >>>>> -Original Message-
  >>>>> From: Butch Bussen [mailto:but...@shellworld.net]
  >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 7:58 PM
  >>>>> To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >>>>> Subjec

Who are VFO officers?

2016-10-04 Thread Loy via Talk
Does anyone know who the officers of VFO are. I did a search and only found the 
CEO. I'd like to know what position Doug has now.
- Original Message - 
  From: David via Talk 
  To: mcommerf...@comcast.net ; Window-EyesDiscussion List ; RJ Sandefur 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes


  Are you sure, they even know? :) Maybe that kind of decisions are made 
  FAR above their head, by the "real owners", behind the scene. Staff 
  members do not always know what is going on, anything much before the 
  rest of us will get informed.


  It will be a challenge, should WE go away. Yet, who knows what the whole 
  market looks like even tomorrow. Let's hope they keep WE running for a 
  bit longer.



  David

  On 10/4/2016 5:29 PM, Marvin Commerford via Talk wrote:
  > I think they do have an idea.  Did you mis Dan's retirement?  Now Doug 
  > works for them so he can't very well say things the company doesn't 
  > want him to say.  There's a lot of hand writing on the wall to 
  > indicate that we'll really have freedom from choice.  Would love to be 
  > wrong but it's difficult to ignore the many signs that indicate that 
  > we're going to be swallowed up by FS.
  >
  > On 10/3/2016 9:51 AM, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote:
  >> You all have know idea what you're talking about. Stop asuming things.
  >> Window eyes is not going away! If it wire, I think Doug or Dan would let
  >> us know! RJ
  >>
  >>
  >> On 10/3/2016 10:36 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
  >>> I'm sure they will hear an earful from those of us who like and use
  >>> Window-Eyes.  And yes, it's my money, and I want a good product.
  >>> Perhaps there should be more transparency as to what they plan to do.
  >>> Tell me straight, and I'll make my own decisions with my feet and my
  >>> wallet.--Matthew Chao
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 10/3/2016 10:25 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
  >>>> Countdown to the demise of we y'all. I been calling it, we and fusion
  >>>> will
  >>>> be killed, magic will be put to it's deserved death fs always knew 
  >>>> magic
  >>>> sucked and was a complete joke. The shark and zt will be made to work
  >>>> together and we'll be offered oh, so great upgrade pricing 
  >>>> sarcasm.  Of
  >>>> course people are now gonna say stop complaining.  When i'm spending
  >>>> my own
  >>>> money on something i have a right to complain. Fs's upgrade model is
  >>>> stupid
  >>>> to update my old copy of the shark and magic would cost a arm, leg and
  >>>> first born child.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> On Monday, October 3, 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk
  >>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
  >>>> wrote:
  >>>>
  >>>>> If I'm stuck with using JAWS, I hope someone comes out with a 
  >>>>> alternate
  >>>>> keyboard layout for NVDA to make it use all of the same hot keys as
  >>>>> Window
  >>>>> Eyes.
  >>>>>
  >>>>> -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk
  >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:04 PM
  >>>>> To: 'Butch Bussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  >>>>> Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes
  >>>>>
  >>>>> Hi. Its understandable why you would not mess with JAWS. I have to
  >>>>> use JAWS
  >>>>> for my work as a musician and recording engineer, but detest it 
  >>>>> for its
  >>>>> copy-protection. I also work as a adaptive technology instructor and
  >>>>> can
  >>>>> use
  >>>>> both alongside of NVDA to teach clients.
  >>>>> -Original Message-
  >>>>> From: Butch Bussen [mailto:but...@shellworld.net]
  >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 7:58 PM
  >>>>> To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >>>>> Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes
  >>>>>
  >>>>> We all know window-eyes is going away, we just don't know when.  
  >>>>> No way
  >>>>> are they going to support two screen readers.  I won't have jaws 
  >>>>> on my
  >>>>> system.  I refuse to mess with their copy protection scheme. Only
  >>>>> thing I
  >>>>> wonder is what they'll do with remaining s m a.
  >>>>> 73
  >>>>> Butch
  >>