Re: Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes
Hi Rod! Thank you so much for this post. My laptop is updated to Windows 10 1903 as of Tuesday. I didn't know about Storage Sense until reading this. We'll have to check to see if this is turned on. I don't want to break Window-Eyes. Thanks for the links too. Debby At 09:03 AM 7/15/2019, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote Hi everyone, I want to alert you to a new feature in Windows 10 1903 which caused me a great deal of trouble with Window-Eyes until I found the problem and corrected it. There is a new feature in Windows 10 1903 called Storage Sense which you can learn about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12425/windows-10-free-up-drive-space The feature is intended to make Windows run better by automatically freeing up disk space by removing files which Windows decides are no longer necessary. Window-Eyes is installed in a folder which is typically reserved for temporary files, i.e., within the AppData folder for the current user account. By default, Windows 10 is configured to remove temporary files, and so Window-Eyes can easily be broken by Windows 10. Now, this is usually not a problem on drives which have sufficient available space. However, on one of my virtual machines, Windows 10 is installed on a 60 GB virtual hard drive. Therefore, on this machine, Windows 10 decided to perform some disk cleanup and so Window-Eyes threw an error whenever I ran it. Interestingly, I found the cause of my problem using Narrator, with which I was able to read notifications from Windows indicating that I had deleted files, and that I had the option of restoring them. I thought that I was going crazy since I did not remember deleting any files. Remembering past posts on this list from users like Netbat who noted how files like wineyes.ini can be corrupted, I wondered whether any of my Window-Eyes files were being corrupted or deleted. Anyway, I decided to choose the restore files option from the Windows notification, and, after a reboot, Window-Eyes came back to life. However, this happy state of affairs didn't last long, since, within a short period of time, a few minutes in fact, when I restarted Window-Eyes, it threw an error again. I'm trying to think back to how I found out that Windows has a quite aggressive disk space manager built into its most recent version, but I eventually did. One of the features of Windows I have been researching recently is OneDrive, which has been evolving quite remarkably, and it, too, has a feature, called Files on demand, which is an attempt to deal with the storage space limitations of newer Windows devices. The page link I have provided above also has a link to learn about OneDrive. While Microsoft is certainly doing a lot of work to add features to its software, you really have to study these settings carefully in order to benefit from them and avoid problems. Anyway, at this point I want to suggest that you go into your Windows settings, search for Storage Sense, and turn off this feature until you have time to consider its implications for your own system, or at least adjust the settings in order to prevent Windows making decisions which you don't want. I hope this helps you all in your travels. Smile. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/the.bee%40frontier.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: FW: Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes
Just to let you know, I have Windows 7 and have the same error report which I just close. It started appearing about a month or less ago. But just closing it does work. On 7/18/2019 9:46 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi everyone, In case some missed it, I'm reposting the message I sent Monday which may be the cause of the issue which some of you are experiencing, that is, Window-Eyes throwing an error on startup. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: July 15, 2019 10:04 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes Hi everyone, I want to alert you to a new feature in Windows 10 1903 which caused me a great deal of trouble with Window-Eyes until I found the problem and corrected it. There is a new feature in Windows 10 1903 called Storage Sense which you can learn about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12425/windows-10-free-up-drive-space The feature is intended to make Windows run better by automatically freeing up disk space by removing files which Windows decides are no longer necessary. Window-Eyes is installed in a folder which is typically reserved for temporary files, i.e., within the AppData folder for the current user account. By default, Windows 10 is configured to remove temporary files, and so Window-Eyes can easily be broken by Windows 10. Now, this is usually not a problem on drives which have sufficient available space. However, on one of my virtual machines, Windows 10 is installed on a 60 GB virtual hard drive. Therefore, on this machine, Windows 10 decided to perform some disk cleanup and so Window-Eyes threw an error whenever I ran it. Interestingly, I found the cause of my problem using Narrator, with which I was able to read notifications from Windows indicating that I had deleted files, and that I had the option of restoring them. I thought that I was going crazy since I did not remember deleting any files. Remembering past posts on this list from users like Netbat who noted how files like wineyes.ini can be corrupted, I wondered whether any of my Window-Eyes files were being corrupted or deleted. Anyway, I decided to choose the restore files option from the Windows notification, and, after a reboot, Window-Eyes came back to life. However, this happy state of affairs didn't last long, since, within a short period of time, a few minutes in fact, when I restarted Window-Eyes, it threw an error again. I'm trying to think back to how I found out that Windows has a quite aggressive disk space manager built into its most recent version, but I eventually did. One of the features of Windows I have been researching recently is OneDrive, which has been evolving quite remarkably, and it, too, has a feature, called Files on demand, which is an attempt to deal with the storage space limitations of newer Windows devices. The page link I have provided above also has a link to learn about OneDrive. While Microsoft is certainly doing a lot of work to add features to its software, you really have to study these settings carefully in order to benefit from them and avoid problems. Anyway, at this point I want to suggest that you go into your Windows settings, search for Storage Sense, and turn off this feature until you have time to consider its implications for your own system, or at least adjust the settings in order to prevent Windows making decisions which you don't want. I hope this helps you all in your travels. Smile. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com
FW: Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes
Hi everyone, In case some missed it, I'm reposting the message I sent Monday which may be the cause of the issue which some of you are experiencing, that is, Window-Eyes throwing an error on startup. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: July 15, 2019 10:04 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes Hi everyone, I want to alert you to a new feature in Windows 10 1903 which caused me a great deal of trouble with Window-Eyes until I found the problem and corrected it. There is a new feature in Windows 10 1903 called Storage Sense which you can learn about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12425/windows-10-free-up-drive-space The feature is intended to make Windows run better by automatically freeing up disk space by removing files which Windows decides are no longer necessary. Window-Eyes is installed in a folder which is typically reserved for temporary files, i.e., within the AppData folder for the current user account. By default, Windows 10 is configured to remove temporary files, and so Window-Eyes can easily be broken by Windows 10. Now, this is usually not a problem on drives which have sufficient available space. However, on one of my virtual machines, Windows 10 is installed on a 60 GB virtual hard drive. Therefore, on this machine, Windows 10 decided to perform some disk cleanup and so Window-Eyes threw an error whenever I ran it. Interestingly, I found the cause of my problem using Narrator, with which I was able to read notifications from Windows indicating that I had deleted files, and that I had the option of restoring them. I thought that I was going crazy since I did not remember deleting any files. Remembering past posts on this list from users like Netbat who noted how files like wineyes.ini can be corrupted, I wondered whether any of my Window-Eyes files were being corrupted or deleted. Anyway, I decided to choose the restore files option from the Windows notification, and, after a reboot, Window-Eyes came back to life. However, this happy state of affairs didn't last long, since, within a short period of time, a few minutes in fact, when I restarted Window-Eyes, it threw an error again. I'm trying to think back to how I found out that Windows has a quite aggressive disk space manager built into its most recent version, but I eventually did. One of the features of Windows I have been researching recently is OneDrive, which has been evolving quite remarkably, and it, too, has a feature, called Files on demand, which is an attempt to deal with the storage space limitations of newer Windows devices. The page link I have provided above also has a link to learn about OneDrive. While Microsoft is certainly doing a lot of work to add features to its software, you really have to study these settings carefully in order to benefit from them and avoid problems. Anyway, at this point I want to suggest that you go into your Windows settings, search for Storage Sense, and turn off this feature until you have time to consider its implications for your own system, or at least adjust the settings in order to prevent Windows making decisions which you don't want. I hope this helps you all in your travels. Smile. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes
Dear Rod, Thanks for this information. I feel that Windows 10 is still in a state of flux and changeability. That's one reason I don't yet want to install Windows 10 on my computer. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 10:03 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes Hi everyone, I want to alert you to a new feature in Windows 10 1903 which caused me a great deal of trouble with Window-Eyes until I found the problem and corrected it. There is a new feature in Windows 10 1903 called Storage Sense which you can learn about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12425/windows-10-free-up-drive-space The feature is intended to make Windows run better by automatically freeing up disk space by removing files which Windows decides are no longer necessary. Window-Eyes is installed in a folder which is typically reserved for temporary files, i.e., within the AppData folder for the current user account. By default, Windows 10 is configured to remove temporary files, and so Window-Eyes can easily be broken by Windows 10. Now, this is usually not a problem on drives which have sufficient available space. However, on one of my virtual machines, Windows 10 is installed on a 60 GB virtual hard drive. Therefore, on this machine, Windows 10 decided to perform some disk cleanup and so Window-Eyes threw an error whenever I ran it. Interestingly, I found the cause of my problem using Narrator, with which I was able to read notifications from Windows indicating that I had deleted files, and that I had the option of restoring them. I thought that I was going crazy since I did not remember deleting any files. Remembering past posts on this list from users like Netbat who noted how files like wineyes.ini can be corrupted, I wondered whether any of my Window-Eyes files were being corrupted or deleted. Anyway, I decided to choose the restore files option from the Windows notification, and, after a reboot, Window-Eyes came back to life. However, this happy state of affairs didn't last long, since, within a short period of time, a few minutes in fact, when I restarted Window-Eyes, it threw an error again. I'm trying to think back to how I found out that Windows has a quite aggressive disk space manager built into its most recent version, but I eventually did. One of the features of Windows I have been researching recently is OneDrive, which has been evolving quite remarkably, and it, too, has a feature, called Files on demand, which is an attempt to deal with the storage space limitations of newer Windows devices. The page link I have provided above also has a link to learn about OneDrive. While Microsoft is certainly doing a lot of work to add features to its software, you really have to study these settings carefully in order to benefit from them and avoid problems. Anyway, at this point I want to suggest that you go into your Windows settings, search for Storage Sense, and turn off this feature until you have time to consider its implications for your own system, or at least adjust the settings in order to prevent Windows making decisions which you don't want. I hope this helps you all in your travels. Smile. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Windows 10 1903 Storage Settings can break Window-Eyes
Hi everyone, I want to alert you to a new feature in Windows 10 1903 which caused me a great deal of trouble with Window-Eyes until I found the problem and corrected it. There is a new feature in Windows 10 1903 called Storage Sense which you can learn about here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12425/windows-10-free-up-drive-space The feature is intended to make Windows run better by automatically freeing up disk space by removing files which Windows decides are no longer necessary. Window-Eyes is installed in a folder which is typically reserved for temporary files, i.e., within the AppData folder for the current user account. By default, Windows 10 is configured to remove temporary files, and so Window-Eyes can easily be broken by Windows 10. Now, this is usually not a problem on drives which have sufficient available space. However, on one of my virtual machines, Windows 10 is installed on a 60 GB virtual hard drive. Therefore, on this machine, Windows 10 decided to perform some disk cleanup and so Window-Eyes threw an error whenever I ran it. Interestingly, I found the cause of my problem using Narrator, with which I was able to read notifications from Windows indicating that I had deleted files, and that I had the option of restoring them. I thought that I was going crazy since I did not remember deleting any files. Remembering past posts on this list from users like Netbat who noted how files like wineyes.ini can be corrupted, I wondered whether any of my Window-Eyes files were being corrupted or deleted. Anyway, I decided to choose the restore files option from the Windows notification, and, after a reboot, Window-Eyes came back to life. However, this happy state of affairs didn't last long, since, within a short period of time, a few minutes in fact, when I restarted Window-Eyes, it threw an error again. I'm trying to think back to how I found out that Windows has a quite aggressive disk space manager built into its most recent version, but I eventually did. One of the features of Windows I have been researching recently is OneDrive, which has been evolving quite remarkably, and it, too, has a feature, called Files on demand, which is an attempt to deal with the storage space limitations of newer Windows devices. The page link I have provided above also has a link to learn about OneDrive. While Microsoft is certainly doing a lot of work to add features to its software, you really have to study these settings carefully in order to benefit from them and avoid problems. Anyway, at this point I want to suggest that you go into your Windows settings, search for Storage Sense, and turn off this feature until you have time to consider its implications for your own system, or at least adjust the settings in order to prevent Windows making decisions which you don't want. I hope this helps you all in your travels. Smile. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
