RE: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

[Richard Petty via Talk]

Thanks so much.

-Original Message-
From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:l...@sprynet.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:45 PM
To: Richard Petty; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

I think that the Word Nav app was inspired by a feature that was already in 
JAWS. And you go in and out of its browse mode with insert-Z, which is the 
same keystroke that is used with web browsers in JAWS.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Richard Petty via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

All,

I will soon make the move to JAWS. The Wordnav app has provided very nice 
functionality for navigating MS Word documents.

What are the JAWS commands, if any, closest to those in Wordnav for moving 
through headings, tables and other document features?

Thanks in advance.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marcie Chaney via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:29 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

I talked to customer service about something related to your question and 
they told me that zoomtext fusion 11 will be using JAWS for the screen 
reader portion of fustion and that the upgrade from zoomtext fustion 10 to 
11 is quite costly but not as expensive as getting magic with JAWS. This is 
not a direct answer to your concern about ap central. It is what happens to 
WE after WE goes away.
Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+chaneyma=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Reeva,

Good question.  At this point we have no plans on taking down app central 
but clearly at some point in the future will become irrelevant and go down. 
I would hope as long as Window-Eyes can continued to be used it would be up 
and if it does need to go down we would give people ample notice.

Doug

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:17 AM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Question, since we is done, how much longer will app central be around for 
those using we/the we version of zt fusion?

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised 
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On May 15, 2017 10:12 AM, "John Covici via Talk" 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

> I think the message said you can use WE indefinitely.
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2017 10:28:11 -0400,
> Loy via Talk wrote:
> >
> > Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we
> > convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE?
> > - Original Message - From: "Aaron Smith via Talk"
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> > To: <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM
> > Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
> >
> >
> > Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes
> > family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended
> > in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States
> > and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We
> > are committed to our customers and will honor existing product
> > purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue
> > to provide technical support to end users that have purchased
> > Window-Eyes or a support package.
> >
> > All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use
> > the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system
> > and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function
> > adequately for your needs.
> >
> > We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are
> > offering JAWS® for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to
> > providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes
> > product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as
> > follows.
> > . End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will
> > be converted to JAWS 18 at no charge.
> > . If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can
> > purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18.
> > . If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue
> > t

RE: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

[Steve Nutt via Talk]

Hi,

Insert-Z will turn on the equivalent, then you can use pretty much the same 
commands.

All the best

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Petty via Talk
Sent: 16 May 2017 03:21
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

All,

I will soon make the move to JAWS. The Wordnav app has provided very nice 
functionality for navigating MS Word documents.

What are the JAWS commands, if any, closest to those in Wordnav for moving 
through headings, tables and other document features?

Thanks in advance.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marcie Chaney via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:29 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

I talked to customer service about something related to your question and they 
told me that zoomtext fusion 11 will be using JAWS for the screen reader 
portion of fustion and that the upgrade from zoomtext fustion 10 to 11 is quite 
costly but not as expensive as getting magic with JAWS. This is not a direct 
answer to your concern about ap central. It is what happens to WE after WE goes 
away.
Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+chaneyma=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Reeva,

Good question.  At this point we have no plans on taking down app central but 
clearly at some point in the future will become irrelevant and go down.  I 
would hope as long as Window-Eyes can continued to be used it would be up and 
if it does need to go down we would give people ample notice.

Doug

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:17 AM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Question, since we is done, how much longer will app central be around for 
those using we/the we version of zt fusion?

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night 
has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On May 15, 2017 10:12 AM, "John Covici via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

> I think the message said you can use WE indefinitely.
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2017 10:28:11 -0400,
> Loy via Talk wrote:
> >
> > Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we 
> > convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE?
> > - Original Message - From: "Aaron Smith via Talk"
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> > To: <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM
> > Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
> >
> >
> > Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes 
> > family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended 
> > in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States 
> > and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We 
> > are committed to our customers and will honor existing product 
> > purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue 
> > to provide technical support to end users that have purchased 
> > Window-Eyes or a support package.
> >
> > All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use 
> > the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system 
> > and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function 
> > adequately for your needs.
> >
> > We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are 
> > offering JAWS® for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to 
> > providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes 
> > product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as 
> > follows.
> > . End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will 
> > be converted to JAWS 18 at no charge.
> > . If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can 
> > purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18.
> > . If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue 
> > to use it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version, 
> > if you are interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales 
> > team at 800-444-4443.
> > . Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS

Re: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

[Chris G via Talk]

Correct, JAWS had the feature first.



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 Original Message 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:44 PM EST
To: Richard Petty; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

I think that the Word Nav app was inspired by a feature that was already
in JAWS. And you go in and out of its browse mode with insert-Z, which
is the same keystroke that is used with web browsers in JAWS.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Richard Petty via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

All,

I will soon make the move to JAWS. The Wordnav app has provided very
nice functionality for navigating MS Word documents.

What are the JAWS commands, if any, closest to those in Wordnav for
moving through headings, tables and other document features?

Thanks in advance.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Marcie Chaney via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:29 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

I talked to customer service about something related to your question
and they told me that zoomtext fusion 11 will be using JAWS for the
screen reader portion of fustion and that the upgrade from zoomtext
fustion 10 to 11 is quite costly but not as expensive as getting magic
with JAWS. This is not a direct answer to your concern about ap central.
It is what happens to WE after WE goes away.
Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chaneyma=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Reeva,

Good question.  At this point we have no plans on taking down app
central but clearly at some point in the future will become irrelevant
and go down. I would hope as long as Window-Eyes can continued to be
used it would be up and if it does need to go down we would give people
ample notice.

Doug

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:17 AM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Question, since we is done, how much longer will app central be around
for those using we/the we version of zt fusion?

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On May 15, 2017 10:12 AM, "John Covici via Talk"
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

I think the message said you can use WE indefinitely.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 10:28:11 -0400,
Loy via Talk wrote:


Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we
convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE?
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Smith via Talk"
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
To: <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM
Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration


Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes
family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended
in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States
and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We
are committed to our customers and will honor existing product
purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue
to provide technical support to end users that have purchased
Window-Eyes or a support package.

All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use
the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system
and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function
adequately for your needs.

We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are
offering JAWS® for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to
providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes
product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as
follows.
. End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will
be converted to JAWS 

Re: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

I think that the Word Nav app was inspired by a feature that was already in 
JAWS. And you go in and out of its browse mode with insert-Z, which is the 
same keystroke that is used with web browsers in JAWS.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Richard Petty via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: WordNav Functionality in JAWS

All,

I will soon make the move to JAWS. The Wordnav app has provided very nice 
functionality for navigating MS Word documents.


What are the JAWS commands, if any, closest to those in Wordnav for moving 
through headings, tables and other document features?


Thanks in advance.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marcie Chaney via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:29 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

I talked to customer service about something related to your question and 
they told me that zoomtext fusion 11 will be using JAWS for the screen 
reader portion of fustion and that the upgrade from zoomtext fustion 10 to 
11 is quite costly but not as expensive as getting magic with JAWS. This is 
not a direct answer to your concern about ap central. It is what happens to 
WE after WE goes away.

Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+chaneyma=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Doug Geoffray via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Reeva,

Good question.  At this point we have no plans on taking down app central 
but clearly at some point in the future will become irrelevant and go down. 
I would hope as long as Window-Eyes can continued to be used it would be up 
and if it does need to go down we would give people ample notice.


Doug

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Reeva Webb via Talk

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:17 AM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>

Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Question, since we is done, how much longer will app central be around for 
those using we/the we version of zt fusion?


"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised 
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho


Reeva

On May 15, 2017 10:12 AM, "John Covici via Talk" 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>

wrote:


I think the message said you can use WE indefinitely.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 10:28:11 -0400,
Loy via Talk wrote:
>
> Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we
> convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE?
> - Original Message - From: "Aaron Smith via Talk"
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> To: <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM
> Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
>
>
> Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes
> family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended
> in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States
> and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We
> are committed to our customers and will honor existing product
> purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue
> to provide technical support to end users that have purchased
> Window-Eyes or a support package.
>
> All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use
> the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system
> and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function
> adequately for your needs.
>
> We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are
> offering JAWS® for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to
> providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes
> product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as
> follows.
> . End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will
> be converted to JAWS 18 at no charge.
> . If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can
> purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18.
> . If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue
> to use it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version,
> if you are interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales
> team at 800-444-4443.
> . Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program
> for end users that migrate to JAWS.
> Learn more about the migration options and pricing by visiting
> http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate.
>
&g

WordNav Functionality in JAWS

[Richard Petty via Talk]

All,

I will soon make the move to JAWS. The Wordnav app has provided very nice 
functionality for navigating MS Word documents.

What are the JAWS commands, if any, closest to those in Wordnav for moving 
through headings, tables and other document features?

Thanks in advance.

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marcie Chaney via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:29 PM
To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

I talked to customer service about something related to your question and they 
told me that zoomtext fusion 11 will be using JAWS for the screen reader 
portion of fustion and that the upgrade from zoomtext fustion 10 to 11 is quite 
costly but not as expensive as getting magic with JAWS. This is not a direct 
answer to your concern about ap central. It is what happens to WE after WE goes 
away.
Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+chaneyma=ameritech@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Reeva,

Good question.  At this point we have no plans on taking down app central but 
clearly at some point in the future will become irrelevant and go down.  I 
would hope as long as Window-Eyes can continued to be used it would be up and 
if it does need to go down we would give people ample notice.

Doug

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:17 AM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

Question, since we is done, how much longer will app central be around for 
those using we/the we version of zt fusion?

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night 
has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On May 15, 2017 10:12 AM, "John Covici via Talk" 
wrote:

> I think the message said you can use WE indefinitely.
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2017 10:28:11 -0400,
> Loy via Talk wrote:
> >
> > Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we 
> > convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE?
> > - Original Message - From: "Aaron Smith via Talk"
> > 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM
> > Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
> >
> >
> > Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes 
> > family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended 
> > in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States 
> > and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We 
> > are committed to our customers and will honor existing product 
> > purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue 
> > to provide technical support to end users that have purchased 
> > Window-Eyes or a support package.
> >
> > All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use 
> > the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system 
> > and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function 
> > adequately for your needs.
> >
> > We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are 
> > offering JAWS® for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to 
> > providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes 
> > product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as 
> > follows.
> > . End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will 
> > be converted to JAWS 18 at no charge.
> > . If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can 
> > purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18.
> > . If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue 
> > to use it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version, 
> > if you are interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales 
> > team at 800-444-4443.
> > . Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program 
> > for end users that migrate to JAWS.
> > Learn more about the migration options and pricing by visiting 
> > http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate.
> >
> > To make this process as easy as possible, we ask you to complete a 
> > simple web form that will go directly to our sales team, who will 
> > then contact you with an authorization code for JAWS 18, or request 
> > additional information if necessary.
> >
> > Requests for upgrades must be submitted at 
> > http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrateform or by phone at
> > 800-444-4443 by July 31, 2017.
> >
> > Note, the free Window-Eyes Offer for Users of Microsoft Office 
> > version is not part of