Re: jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-24 Thread David via Talk
Eventhough it has been a call for so long. Even before the redo of the 
browse mode. Sure, there would be cases when you could have increased 
productivity highly, by using a hotkey to jump to the two only links on 
a page of a 120 different choices, that you have not yet researched. Say 
for instance, when you scroll through a list of products on EBay, or 
when you have performed a search on the net, by means of your search 
engine. You want to make informed dicisions, so you check the links down 
the list. If WE always would go back to where you left the page, you 
could start at the top, and work your way down. But unfortunately, such 
behavior is long time gone, especailly after the rewritten browse mode. 
The WE cursor jumpst to anywhere on the page, when you return after a 
moment. Then you have to scroll your way through 79 links that you have 
already visited, listening to all the "visited" messages. By the time 
you finally refind the first unvisited link, your ears are sweat - that 
is, if they have not yet fallen off. Not exactly productive, and by far, 
tidious.


Other screenreaders have managed to have Unvisited link search by a 
hotkey, even for long. Many have called for the functionality in WE, 
even when there has been questions from the staff, what kind of features 
we want implemented. I for one, really had wished such a feature would 
have been on the roadmap.


To all those of you, who have been using Jaws, does this feature exist 
in that screen reader? Just wondering, since they now have the merge, 
maybe chances are they will leave us more of the features in both readers.


Please, don't tell me to go and use NVDA. I already do, and I know the 
feature exists there. But look, it is WE I have paid for, and paid all 
my upgrades for. That is why I hope to see the most effecient features, 
and the highest flexibilityy, in this screen reader. Otherwise, if I 
will find all I need in the other product, I could have saved money. Smiley.



David

On 8/24/2016 3:05 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
> Robin, I wish adding this functionality to Window-Eyes was as simple as 
> defining a hotkey. But, the problem is navigating by unvisited link is 
> something that has never been implemented in Window-Eyes. This means that 
> there is no hotkey to define. It may be possible to write an app that offers 
> this type of functionality in Internet Explorer, but I don't know for sure. 
> And, I don't think that implementing this functionality in the core of 
> Window-Eyes so it works in all supported browsers is currently on the roadmap.
> Best,
> Marc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 6:30 PM
> To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link
>
> I wonder about how to define a hotkey for this.  Haven't tried it, but I've 
> wanted a next unvisited link hotkey before.  Anyone tried to define U or such 
> to so this?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 PM
> To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link
>
> Hi Olusegun,
>
> A minor correction, if you would permit, my friend. smile What was asked is 
> how to jump to the previous or next unvisited link.
> The keystrokes you offered navigate to the next or previous link, 
> irrespective of whether it was visited or not.
> The enquiry which was made surrounded the matter of whether there was a hot 
> key to allow one to jump to links on a given page which had previously not 
> been visited.
> Thus far, Window-Eyes does not have such a hot key.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:56 AM
> To: 'Singing Sparrow' <sunsh...@abe.midco.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link
>
> And yes, it has always had one:  Press the "l" key to skip from one link to 
> another when scrolling from the top to the bottom; the Shift-L keystroke does 
> the reverse.  If the link has been visited previously, use the letter "v" key 
> if you are going from the top to the bottom of the screen, the Shift-V 
> keystrokedoes the reverse!
>
> Sincerely,
> Olusegun
> Denver, Colorado
>
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RE: jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-24 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
Robin, I wish adding this functionality to Window-Eyes was as simple as 
defining a hotkey. But, the problem is navigating by unvisited link is 
something that has never been implemented in Window-Eyes. This means that there 
is no hotkey to define. It may be possible to write an app that offers this 
type of functionality in Internet Explorer, but I don't know for sure. And, I 
don't think that implementing this functionality in the core of Window-Eyes so 
it works in all supported browsers is currently on the roadmap.
Best,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 6:30 PM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

I wonder about how to define a hotkey for this.  Haven't tried it, but I've 
wanted a next unvisited link hotkey before.  Anyone tried to define U or such 
to so this?  


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On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 PM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

Hi Olusegun,

A minor correction, if you would permit, my friend. smile What was asked is how 
to jump to the previous or next unvisited link.
The keystrokes you offered navigate to the next or previous link, irrespective 
of whether it was visited or not.
The enquiry which was made surrounded the matter of whether there was a hot key 
to allow one to jump to links on a given page which had previously not been 
visited.
Thus far, Window-Eyes does not have such a hot key.

Respectfully,

Rod

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Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:56 AM
To: 'Singing Sparrow' <sunsh...@abe.midco.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

And yes, it has always had one:  Press the "l" key to skip from one link to 
another when scrolling from the top to the bottom; the Shift-L keystroke does 
the reverse.  If the link has been visited previously, use the letter "v" key 
if you are going from the top to the bottom of the screen, the Shift-V 
keystrokedoes the reverse!  

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-23 Thread Van Lant, Robin via Talk
I wonder about how to define a hotkey for this.  Haven't tried it, but I've 
wanted a next unvisited link hotkey before.  Anyone tried to define U or such 
to so this?  


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On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 PM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

Hi Olusegun,

A minor correction, if you would permit, my friend. smile What was asked is how 
to jump to the previous or next unvisited link.
The keystrokes you offered navigate to the next or previous link, irrespective 
of whether it was visited or not.
The enquiry which was made surrounded the matter of whether there was a hot key 
to allow one to jump to links on a given page which had previously not been 
visited.
Thus far, Window-Eyes does not have such a hot key.

Respectfully,

Rod

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Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:56 AM
To: 'Singing Sparrow' <sunsh...@abe.midco.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

And yes, it has always had one:  Press the "l" key to skip from one link to 
another when scrolling from the top to the bottom; the Shift-L keystroke does 
the reverse.  If the link has been visited previously, use the letter "v" key 
if you are going from the top to the bottom of the screen, the Shift-V 
keystrokedoes the reverse!  

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-19 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Olusegun,

A minor correction, if you would permit, my friend. smile
What was asked is how to jump to the previous or next unvisited link.
The keystrokes you offered navigate to the next or previous link,
irrespective of whether it was visited or not.
The enquiry which was made surrounded the matter of whether there was a hot
key to allow one to jump to links on a given page which had previously not
been visited.
Thus far, Window-Eyes does not have such a hot key.

Respectfully,

Rod

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Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:56 AM
To: 'Singing Sparrow' <sunsh...@abe.midco.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

And yes, it has always had one:  Press the "l" key to skip from one link to
another when scrolling from the top to the bottom; the Shift-L keystroke
does the reverse.  If the link has been visited previously, use the letter
"v" key if you are going from the top to the bottom of the screen, the
Shift-V keystrokedoes the reverse!  

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-19 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
And yes, it has always had one:  Press the "l" key to skip from one link to
another when scrolling from the top to the bottom; the Shift-L keystroke
does the reverse.  If the link has been visited previously, use the letter
"v" key if you are going from the top to the bottom of the screen, the
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Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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Re: jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-19 Thread Iaen Cordell via Talk
thanks, the post about going to the bottom of the page, then returning does 
work but, I was looking for a key stroke.

cheers and thank you.
IC
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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: jump to a unvisited link


I believe that window eyes should have a comand to jump tounvisited links 
like all other screen readers do.



On 8/18/2016 4:42 PM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

You can go to the bottom and jump to the previous visited link.
Window-eyes doesn't have a command to jump to unvisited links.


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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:13 PM
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Subject: jump to a unvisited link

Good morning, I am viewing a page with about 150 links on it, as I have 
to action each link I am after a way to jump to the next unvisited link.
jumping to visited links works well but, can I jump over all the visited 
links to the next unvisited link?

using windows seven with window-eyes 9.4.
cheers
IC

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RE: jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-18 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
You can go to the bottom and jump to the previous visited link.
Window-eyes doesn't have a command to jump to unvisited links.


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Subject: jump to a unvisited link 

Good morning, I am viewing a page with about 150 links on it, as I have to 
action each link I am after a way to jump to the next unvisited link.
jumping to visited links works well but, can I jump over all the visited links 
to the next unvisited link?
using windows seven with window-eyes 9.4.
cheers
IC

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jump to a unvisited link

2016-08-18 Thread Iaen Cordell via Talk
Good morning, I am viewing a page with about 150 links on it, as I have to 
action each link I am after a way to jump to the next unvisited link.
jumping to visited links works well but, can I jump over all the visited 
links to the next unvisited link?

using windows seven with window-eyes 9.4.
cheers
IC

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