window-eyes current status.
HI Guys, I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: > We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt > fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the > shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck > trying to use it after all this goes down. > > > > On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk > > wrote: > >> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see >> what happens. RJ >> >> >> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: >> >>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage >>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free >>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to >>> decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once >>> said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> Sent from my iPad Air >>> >>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their best interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated again. Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving force will be good old fashioned money! RIP Winbdow-Eyes! Ivan Cribb ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alana ndsuzanne%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/manbat >>> sandefur%40outlook.com >>> . >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/ta
Re: window-eyes current status.
Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You guys really amaze me. Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was. Sorry y'all not happening. The deal is done. Nothing will happen for 6 months, if at all. None of us knows. It's entirely possible that nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing. Sit back, relax and let these guys do their jobs. As for microsoft, it has Narrator. It's getting better but still not a replacement for the current guys. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: HI Guys, I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it after all this goes down. On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what happens. RJ On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their best interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated again. Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving force will be good old fashioned money! RIP Winbdow-Eyes! Ivan Cribb ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alana ndsuzanne%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the
Re: window-eyes current status.
And one other thing, I believe that you still can get a fully functioning version of W.E. with the purchase of MicroSoft Office..? Or has that deal disappeared? I have been using W.E. since 2003 I believe anyhow and LOVE IT! Catch Ya Later There! de . On 18-Jun-16 11:17, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You guys really amaze me. Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was. Sorry y'all not happening. The deal is done. Nothing will happen for 6 months, if at all. None of us knows. It's entirely possible that nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing. Sit back, relax and let these guys do their jobs. As for microsoft, it has Narrator. It's getting better but still not a replacement for the current guys. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: HI Guys, I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it after all this goes down. On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what happens. RJ On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their best interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated again. Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving force will be good old fashioned money! RIP Winbdow-Eyes! Ivan Cribb ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alana ndsuzanne%40
Re: window-eyes current status.
Amen, just everybody grow up! On 6/18/2016 11:17 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You guys really amaze me. Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was. Sorry y'all not happening. The deal is done. Nothing will happen for 6 months, if at all. None of us knows. It's entirely possible that nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing. Sit back, relax and let these guys do their jobs. As for microsoft, it has Narrator. It's getting better but still not a replacement for the current guys. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: HI Guys, I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it after all this goes down. On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what happens. RJ On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their best interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated again. Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving force will be good old fashioned money! RIP Winbdow-Eyes! Ivan Cribb ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alana ndsuzanne%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___
RE: window-eyes current status.
I believe that youu still can. Charlie Short -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:44 AM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. And one other thing, I believe that you still can get a fully functioning version of W.E. with the purchase of MicroSoft Office..? Or has that deal disappeared? I have been using W.E. since 2003 I believe anyhow and LOVE IT! Catch Ya Later There! de . On 18-Jun-16 11:17, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: > Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You > guys really amaze me. > > Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their > minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was. > Sorry y'all not happening. The deal is done. Nothing will happen for > 6 months, if at all. None of us knows. It's entirely possible that > nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing. > Sit back, relax and let these guys do their jobs. As for microsoft, > it has Narrator. It's getting better but still not a replacement for > the current guys. > > > > > > On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: >> HI Guys, >> >> I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest >> their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the >> WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that >> nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% >> ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. >> >> Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, >> speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a >> lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes >> during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy >> to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens >> to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. >> >> Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE >> users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific >> company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago >> when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone >> gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after >> the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. >> >> Thank you, >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM >> To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: David Woo interview >> >> Me too. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM >> To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: David Woo interview >> >> I agree >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk >> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM >> To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: David Woo interview >> >> Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! >> >> >> >> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: >>> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt >>> fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the >>> shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good >>> luck trying to use it after all this goes down. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see >>>> what happens. RJ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: >>>> >>>>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage >>>>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free >>>>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue >>>>> to decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody &
Re: window-eyes current status.
Your copy of Windows-eyes isn't going to stop working after 6 months, regardless of what may happen to WE in general. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: HI Guys, I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it after all this goes down. On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what happens. RJ On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their best interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated again. Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving force will be good old fashioned money! RIP Winbdow-Eyes! Ivan Cribb ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alana ndsuzanne%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/manbat sandefur%40outlook.com . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those
Re: window-eyes current status.
I'll just stick with my Office version if it ever comes down to a choice between that or the Shark. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:04 PM To: Micallef Michael at FITA ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. Your copy of Windows-eyes isn't going to stop working after 6 months, regardless of what may happen to WE in general. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: HI Guys, I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck trying to use it after all this goes down. On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote: I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see what happens. RJ On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry. Alan Sent from my iPad Air On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David will be gaily announcing that, after long anhd serious consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared to the number of Window-Eyes customers" VFO has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more customersBut existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their best interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal never to be repeated again. Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only driving force will be good old fashioned money! RIP Winbdow-Eyes! Ivan Cribb ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/alana ndsuzanne%40earthlink.net . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membersh
RE: window-eyes current status.
The problem with that is if customers don't purchase new releases, there will not be a Window-Eyes. I decided soon after its release that Window-Eyes for Office had two conflicting objectives. The first being to spread access to a high quality screen reader to people who could not afford such, but the second was to admit that on-going development of Window-eyes was/is under severe pressure. If people decide to stay with window-Eyes for Office at any price, and as Window-eyes development stalls, you are then locked into legacy products. There is no doubt that Windows will under-go substantial change and there will be a screen reader of some sort. If it is a user pays for screen reader, versus no screen reader because the free one will not function - then what happens? Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Monday, 20 June 2016 11:10 p.m. To: Nick Sarames; Micallef Michael at FITA; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. I'll just stick with my Office version if it ever comes down to a choice between that or the Shark. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:04 PM To: Micallef Michael at FITA ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. Your copy of Windows-eyes isn't going to stop working after 6 months, regardless of what may happen to WE in general. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: > HI Guys, > > I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest > their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office > for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect > them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a > new copy of JAWS. > > Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, > speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a > lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes > during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy > to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens > to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. > > Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE > users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. > After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there > were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro > promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas > are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. > > Thank you, > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM > To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: David Woo interview > > Me too. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM > To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: David Woo interview > > I agree > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM > To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: David Woo interview > > Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! > > > > On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: >> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt >> fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the >> shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good >> luck trying to use it after all this goes down. >> >> >> >> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk >> >> wrote: >> >>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see >>> what happens. RJ >>> >>> >>> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote: >>> >>>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage >>>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free >>>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to >>>> decline. The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody >>>> once said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest wel
RE: window-eyes current status.
Hi Vaughn. Good points, however, we had an organisation here that has it on their computers, and they had siveer outdated copies of JAWS that they had back in the days and they weren't bothered to upgrade their copies of JAWS so we told them about the free office version for Window-Eyes and as of a month ago we have it on their two computers in the organization. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:47 PM To: 'Bryan Peterson'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: window-eyes current status. The problem with that is if customers don't purchase new releases, there will not be a Window-Eyes. I decided soon after its release that Window-Eyes for Office had two conflicting objectives. The first being to spread access to a high quality screen reader to people who could not afford such, but the second was to admit that on-going development of Window-eyes was/is under severe pressure. If people decide to stay with window-Eyes for Office at any price, and as Window-eyes development stalls, you are then locked into legacy products. There is no doubt that Windows will under-go substantial change and there will be a screen reader of some sort. If it is a user pays for screen reader, versus no screen reader because the free one will not function - then what happens? Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Monday, 20 June 2016 11:10 p.m. To: Nick Sarames; Micallef Michael at FITA; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. I'll just stick with my Office version if it ever comes down to a choice between that or the Shark. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:04 PM To: Micallef Michael at FITA ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. Your copy of Windows-eyes isn't going to stop working after 6 months, regardless of what may happen to WE in general. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: > HI Guys, > > I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest > their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office > for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect > them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a > new copy of JAWS. > > Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, > speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a > lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes > during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy > to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens > to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. > > Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE > users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. > After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there > were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro > promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas > are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. > > Thank you, > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM > To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: David Woo interview > > Me too. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM > To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: David Woo interview > > I agree > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM > To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: David Woo interview > > Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! > > > > On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: >> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt >> fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the >> shark. Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good >> luck trying to use it after all this goes down. >> >> >> >> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk >> >> wrote
Re: window-eyes current status.
Which is why I've always planned to use the Office version only until I could save up to buy a new SMA. That's likely to take a few months. I also have to save up for an updated version of Office since my copy of WE is apparently not speaking to my copy of Office, at least not in the main document window of Word.. -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:02 PM To: 'Vaughan Dodd' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: window-eyes current status. Hi Vaughn. Good points, however, we had an organisation here that has it on their computers, and they had siveer outdated copies of JAWS that they had back in the days and they weren't bothered to upgrade their copies of JAWS so we told them about the free office version for Window-Eyes and as of a month ago we have it on their two computers in the organization. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:47 PM To: 'Bryan Peterson'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: window-eyes current status. The problem with that is if customers don't purchase new releases, there will not be a Window-Eyes. I decided soon after its release that Window-Eyes for Office had two conflicting objectives. The first being to spread access to a high quality screen reader to people who could not afford such, but the second was to admit that on-going development of Window-eyes was/is under severe pressure. If people decide to stay with window-Eyes for Office at any price, and as Window-eyes development stalls, you are then locked into legacy products. There is no doubt that Windows will under-go substantial change and there will be a screen reader of some sort. If it is a user pays for screen reader, versus no screen reader because the free one will not function - then what happens? Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Monday, 20 June 2016 11:10 p.m. To: Nick Sarames; Micallef Michael at FITA; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. I'll just stick with my Office version if it ever comes down to a choice between that or the Shark. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:04 PM To: Micallef Michael at FITA ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window-eyes current status. Your copy of Windows-eyes isn't going to stop working after 6 months, regardless of what may happen to WE in general. On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: HI Guys, I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS. Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes. Last GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that was never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens. Thank you, -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview Me too. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: David Woo interview I agree -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: David Woo interview Nobody knows a single thing. Stop this silliness! On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the shark. Oh,
