Re: [OSM-talk] Deleted Place names in the Philippines

2008-01-14 Thread Maning Sambale
I'm afraid there's more:
[http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.550859217239761&mlon=121.04870772458753&zoom=14]
[http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.558977716301913&mlon=121.0841830236886&zoom=14]
[http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.650792267628056&mlon=121.07140653390742&zoom=14]
[http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.661455707705189&mlon=121.05404332743633&zoom=14]
[http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.698512880048776&mlon=121.12088122612128&zoom=14]
[http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.556818832369347&mlon=121.12429083089091&zoom=12]

maning

On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 14:30 +0800, Maning Sambale wrote:
> Ian,
> 
> Is this the area?
> [http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.637254788010372&mlon=120.96460629211329&zoom=14]
> 
> Help please to revert deleted ways.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> maning
> 
> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 00:34 +, Ian Haylock wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I think I have just deleted a load of place names In the Philippines.
> > I may have also deleted a load of other data as well.
> > 
> > Could someone check out the map of the Philippines area ( I think only
> > the area north of Manila has been affected), and put the data back if
> > it's missing.
> > 
> > The time frame of the deletions is from about 3 hours ago until now. I
> > think that's 9pm 14th Jan to midnight GMT.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers, Ian
> > 
> > 
> > __
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Re: [OSM-talk] Deleted Place names in the Philippines

2008-01-14 Thread Maning Sambale
Ian,

Is this the area?
[http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=14.637254788010372&mlon=120.96460629211329&zoom=14]

Help please to revert deleted ways.

cheers,

maning

On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 00:34 +, Ian Haylock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think I have just deleted a load of place names In the Philippines.
> I may have also deleted a load of other data as well.
> 
> Could someone check out the map of the Philippines area ( I think only
> the area north of Manila has been affected), and put the data back if
> it's missing.
> 
> The time frame of the deletions is from about 3 hours ago until now. I
> think that's 9pm 14th Jan to midnight GMT.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Ian
> 
> 
> __
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[OSM-talk] Deleted Place names in the Philippines

2008-01-14 Thread Ian Haylock
Hi,

I think I have just deleted a load of place names In the Philippines. I may 
have also deleted a load of other data as well.

Could someone check out the map of the Philippines area ( I think only the area 
north of Manila has been affected), and put the data back if it's missing.

The time frame of the deletions is from about 3 hours ago until now. I think 
that's 9pm 14th Jan to midnight GMT.




Cheers, Ian
   
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[OSM-talk] possibly redundant proposals

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
there are some proposals that have been under industrial (a
non-existent top-level tag) now for several months

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features#Proposed_Features_-_Industrial

they are probably useful, but there is no detail for any of them, and
i'm not sure what 'bore', 'shaft' (mineshaft? which is a proposal) and
'line' (pipeline?, a feature already) are, or where we would use
'vent' (on the side/top of a building?)

could whoever put the proposals up, or someone who has more knowledge
of industrial plants, add some detail please?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Kosmos v1.3 - shaded relief

2008-01-14 Thread Artem Pavlenko
Hi Igor,

Thanks very much for shaded relied algos. I didn't have a chance to  
look, yet, but I sure will.

Cheers
Artem
On 13 Jan 2008, at 17:50, Igor Brejc wrote:

> Artem Pavlenko wrote:
>>
>> AFAIK, all freely available void-filled SRTMs are not free. At  
>> least there's 'for non-commercial use only' clause attached.
>>
> Yes, that's true. When I find the time I will examine the sources  
> and try to contact authors to ask them permission to use their  
> data. As for the "non-commercial use", since Kosmos itself is by  
> currently licensed for non-commercial use only, I don't think that  
> should be a problem.
>>
>> Yes, please. I'm very interested in new ideas for generating  
>> reliefs and filling voids.
>>
>> Anyways, great stuff!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Artem
> I've attached source files for all of the shading algorithms used  
> in Kosovo. I plan to add some more (like elevation coloring) in the  
> future. I hope the source code helps - I've included all the  
> relevant stuff. If you have any questions or suggestions, please  
> feel free to write. I saw your work on DEM processing and I'm  
> impressed. I too am interested in new ideas :)
>
> Regards,
> Igorusing System;
> using System.Collections.Generic;
> using System.Text;
> using System.Drawing;
> using System.Diagnostics.CodeAnalysis;
> using log4net;
> using Brejc.DemLibrary.Shading;
>
> namespace Brejc.DemLibrary
> {
> public sealed class DemProcessor
> {
> static public Image GenerateShadedReliefImage (
> IRasterDigitalElevationModel dem,
> IShadingMethod shadingMethod,
> ShadingParameters shadingParameters)
> {
> Bitmap bitmap = new Bitmap (dem.LonLength, dem.LatLength);
>
> double[][] window = new double[3][] { new double[3],  
> new double[3], new double[3] };
>
> double earthRadius = 636;
> double earthCircumference = earthRadius * 2 * Math.PI;
> double latSpacing = earthCircumference / (360 *  
> dem.LatResolution);
>
> shadingMethod.Initialize (shadingParameters);
>
> for (int y = 1; y < dem.LatLength - 1; y++)
> {
> GeoPosition geoPos = dem.GetGeoPosition (0, y);
> double lonSpacing = earthCircumference / (360 *  
> dem.LonResolution) * Math.Cos (geoPos.Latitude * Math.PI / 180.0);
>
> for (int x = 1; x < dem.LonLength - 1; x++)
> {
> GetMovingWindow (dem, window, x, y);
>
> double dzdx = ((window[0][0] + 2 * window[0][1]  
> + window[0][2])
> - (window[2][0] + 2 * window[2][1] + window 
> [2][2]))
> / (8 * lonSpacing);
>
> if (double.IsNaN (dzdx))
> continue;
>
> double dzdy = ((window[0][0] + 2 * window[1][0]  
> + window[2][0])
> - (window[0][2] + 2 * window[1][2] + window 
> [2][2]))
> / (8 * latSpacing);
>
> if (double.IsNaN (dzdy))
> continue;
>
> double riseRun = Math.Sqrt (dzdx * dzdx + dzdy  
> * dzdy);
> double slope = Math.PI / 2 - Math.Atan (riseRun);
>
> double aspect = Math.Atan2 (dzdy, dzdx);
>
> //double aspect = Math.Atan2 (window[1][0] -  
> window[1][2],
> //window[0][1] - window[2][1]);
>
> if (dzdx != 0 || dzdy != 0)
> {
> if (aspect == 0)
> aspect = Math.PI * 2;
> }
> else
> {
> aspect = 0;
> }
>
> Color color = shadingMethod.CalculateColor  
> (aspect, slope);
>
> bitmap.SetPixel (x, bitmap.Height - y, color);
> }
> }
>
> return bitmap;
> }
>
> static private void GetMovingWindow  
> (IRasterDigitalElevationModel dem, double[][] window, int x, int y)
> {
> for (int xi = -1; xi <= 1; xi++)
> for (int yi = -1; yi <= 1; yi++)
> window[xi + 1][yi + 1] =  
> dem.GetElevationForDataPoint (x + xi, y + yi);
> }
>
> private DemProcessor () { }
>
> [SuppressMessage ("Microsoft.Performance",  
> "CA1823:AvoidUnusedPrivateFields")]
> static readonly private ILog log = LogManager.GetLogger  
> (typeof (DemProcessor));
> }
> }


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[OSM-talk] The first (informal) italian mapping party

2008-01-14 Thread Edoardo Marascalchi
just to let you know about our first mapping party.
In the next day I will release another (better maybe) video .. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2dQ6IbJuS8

EdoM


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Re: [OSM-talk] Lake District mapping event II

2008-01-14 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Forgot to say - wiki page is at:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Lake_District_II

- sign up if possibly interested.

Nick


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[OSM-talk] Lake District mapping event II

2008-01-14 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone,

Following a weekend I spent up there with the family just now (too wet, 
windy and icy to do high level walks sadly, but I mapped some valley 
footpaths meaning the Langdale area is pretty complete now) I'd like to 
propose another summer outdoors mapping event, returning to the Lake 
District following last year's successful event.
I propose moving west to the Borrowdale/Buttermere area this year, to 
cover an area still not present on OSM, including the well known peaks of 
Great Gable, Pillar, High Stile and Haystacks and the surrounding valley 
areas. This is on a bus route to Keswick allowing possible coverage of 
that area too. This area together with last year's 
Grasmere-Ambleside-Langdale focus will mean that the most popular core 
areas of the Lakes will have very good coverage. 
I'd propose any time June 15th to July 10th - any earlier than that I 
(Nick W) will be unavailable, and any later will be peak holiday season so 
expensive, crowded and hard to get accommodation. An alternative time 
would be late September, though my own preferences would be for early 
summer.
 I'd like to hold it well away from the proposed Wales event so people 
hopefully can attend both. Steve - any ideas when this might be?
As soon as I know my exact work commitments (these are unknown at this 
stage) I will decide on an exact week. (like last year it'll be a 
weekend/week event so people can either come for the weekend or stay the 
whole week). This *may* be the first week in July if things are as they 
were last year, but no guarantees. 

Nick

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[OSM-talk] JOSM Icons

2008-01-14 Thread Bruce Cowan
May as well forward here:

I have done a wee bit of work on some new icons for JOSM (sort of in the
tango style). The examples are at http://icons.bcowan.fastmail.co.uk/ ,
but be advised the final icons have to be 24x24.

If anyone can suggest any improvements, they are welcome.

If you want the source SVGs, just ask for them.
-- 
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Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-14 Thread Marc Schütz
Thanks for all the comments!

To clarify: the objects in question are usually made of stone, between 1 and 2 
meters high, and show scenes from the bible or from the life of saints and 
martyrs. They are frequently found in southern Germany and the alps. Some of 
them have been built as votive offerings, others are found alongside 
procession and pilgrim routes.

As this seems not to be found in English-speaking countries, there probably 
isn't a widely used English term for it. dict.cc translates it as "wayside 
shrine" (http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Bildstock.html).

As to the crosses Rob mentioned, they are found in my area too. They can 
probably called "wayside cross" in analogy.

So, unless someone comes up with better names, I will start a feature proposal 
in the wiki for:
historic=wayside_shrine
historic=wayside_cross

Removing historic=icon was probably a good idea anyway, as it is still unclear 
what it meant. Querying the XAPI 
http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node%5bhistoric=icon%5d 
shows that it is in use for a wide variety of things (judging by the names):
- border stones
- a clock tower
- various memorials
- "Gravhøj" (probably meaning a prehistoric grave hill)
- at least one "Bildstock"

Regards, Marc


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Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: Import of OpenGeoDB to OSM

2008-01-14 Thread SteveC

On 12 Jan 2008, at 19:23, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> responds to a question by Joerg Ostertag (who would have
> thought of that!)

??

have fun,

SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/



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Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hierarchies

2008-01-14 Thread Karl Newman
On Jan 14, 2008 5:00 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2008 4:29 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > For that matter, I wish all closed ways which designate an area were
> marked
> > as such. I'm working on writing a tiling task for Osmosis which will
> carve
> > up data into rectangular grids (for feeding into GPS map creators such
> as
> > mkgmap). It has to treat closed ways differently than linear features
> (hard
> > clip them with synthetic nodes right at the boundaries and link the
> clipped
> > parts together). Without a universal tag such as area=yes designating a
> way
> > as a polygon (simply having a closed way is not sufficient--witness
> > roundabouts), the tiling task will have to know about every type of tag
> > which implicitly designates a polygon. Then when a new implicit polygon
> tag
> > is added, the task won't correctly treat it as a polygon until it's told
> > about it. We really could use a generic method for designating polygons.
>
> To be honest, extra work for processors/renderers that saves work for
> thousands and thousands of other contributors adding unnecessary tags
> is, I'm afraid, one of the things we need to live with.
>
> If you want to argue for another primitive type in addition to lines
> and nodes, that's a different matter. But extra tagging isn't going to
> happen, especially with so many other renderers getting along without
> it.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>

I was probably angling more for another primitive type, but I understand the
reasons OSM doesn't have it. Although, I don't see that adding an polygon
designating tag would be such a huge burden on mappers. How much mapping of
areal features is done, anyway? Certainly ways are the dominating map
feature. But, in the interest of not breaking stuff (the renderers would
have to start requiring its use), I'll leave it alone and work around it by
adding every new approved polygonal feature...
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Re: [OSM-talk] Welsh Map

2008-01-14 Thread Dan Karran
Great to see this localised map. If you add name:gv to that list as
well, you should pick up Manx names for a handful of locations on the
Isle of Man.

Cheers,
Dan

On Jan 14, 2008 1:47 PM, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 08:28 +, Dermot McNally wrote:
> > On 14/01/2008, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > /me wonders what a Gaelic map would look like, using name:gd.
> >
> > If you included a fallback to name:ga, you'd end up with quite a few
> > locations in Ireland.
>
> I was mainly suggesting to have all 3 shown on 1 map if possible.
> --
> Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hierarchies

2008-01-14 Thread Andy Allan
On Jan 14, 2008 4:29 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For that matter, I wish all closed ways which designate an area were marked
> as such. I'm working on writing a tiling task for Osmosis which will carve
> up data into rectangular grids (for feeding into GPS map creators such as
> mkgmap). It has to treat closed ways differently than linear features (hard
> clip them with synthetic nodes right at the boundaries and link the clipped
> parts together). Without a universal tag such as area=yes designating a way
> as a polygon (simply having a closed way is not sufficient--witness
> roundabouts), the tiling task will have to know about every type of tag
> which implicitly designates a polygon. Then when a new implicit polygon tag
> is added, the task won't correctly treat it as a polygon until it's told
> about it. We really could use a generic method for designating polygons.

To be honest, extra work for processors/renderers that saves work for
thousands and thousands of other contributors adding unnecessary tags
is, I'm afraid, one of the things we need to live with.

If you want to argue for another primitive type in addition to lines
and nodes, that's a different matter. But extra tagging isn't going to
happen, especially with so many other renderers getting along without
it.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] Welsh Map

2008-01-14 Thread Bruce Cowan

On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 08:28 +, Dermot McNally wrote:
> On 14/01/2008, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > /me wonders what a Gaelic map would look like, using name:gd.
> 
> If you included a fallback to name:ga, you'd end up with quite a few
> locations in Ireland.

I was mainly suggesting to have all 3 shown on 1 map if possible.
-- 
Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-14 Thread Rob
in my province we have also some of these called in dutch "wegkuis", they
are catholic crosses placed mostly at a way crossing
picture : http://www.hoogvonderen.info/kruis1hv.jpeg and
http://www.kruisenenkapellenthorn.nl/fotos/wegkruis_heerbaan.jpg

2008/1/14, Stephen Gower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 07:58:20PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote:
> >
> > i'll second that, but unless bildstock is an english word, we
> > shouldn't use it - current protocol is british english words only.
> >
> > Marc, does this have a direct english equivalent? is icon correct, or
> > does that relate to something subtlety different?
>
>   Possibly "Shrine" unless I've missed some subtlety of what
>   Bildstock is.
>
>   s
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Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-14 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 07:58:20PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote:
> 
> i'll second that, but unless bildstock is an english word, we
> shouldn't use it - current protocol is british english words only.
> 
> Marc, does this have a direct english equivalent? is icon correct, or
> does that relate to something subtlety different?

  Possibly "Shrine" unless I've missed some subtlety of what
  Bildstock is.
  
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[OSM-talk] RFC - railway=service

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
this was pretty sound already, i've done a bit of tidy up and proposed
some tag values, as well as splitting it into three sub-proposals.
hopefully it captures the intent of the original proposer

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Service

could i get some comments please

thanks

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Re: [OSM-talk] voting closed - swimming_pool

2008-01-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Robin Paulson wrote:
>Sent: 14 January 2008 2:41 AM
>To: talk@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: [OSM-talk] voting closed - swimming_pool
>
>this proposal has been rejected, with 11 yes votes and 3 no votes
>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Swimming_pool
>
>it has been moved to the rejected features page
>
>it also appears to be a duplication of sport=swimming
>
>if there are some tags you would like to add to an existing tag (e.g.
>in this case indoor/outdoor), please propose a new tag for the
>existing key, rather than duplicating work that has already been done
>
>thanks
>


I'll point out the obvious here. leisure=swimming_pool is the old way of
doing things when we placed most objects like this under the amenity or
leisure top level keys. Its more appropriate now to tag as
building=swimming_pool and sport=swimming/diving/water_polo etc etc.

Cheers

Andy


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Re: [OSM-talk] Welsh Map

2008-01-14 Thread Dermot McNally
On 14/01/2008, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> /me wonders what a Gaelic map would look like, using name:gd.

If you included a fallback to name:ga, you'd end up with quite a few
locations in Ireland.

Dermot

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Re: [OSM-talk] voting closed - swimming_pool

2008-01-14 Thread Robin Paulson
On 14/01/2008, Brent Easton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chill out guys,
>
> I'm merely pointing out an interesting anomaly with the current voting 
> scheme. I don't particularly care if you change it or not. I am not having a 
> go at you Robin, who are doing a terrific job.
>


not at all, i didn't think you were - i took it all as useful debate

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